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Old 25-03-07, 09:00 PM   #31
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Even though it has been discussed it is evidently still an issue if its cause for debate....no?

Although i personally dont see why its still a moot point, horse defecates...owner picks it up/fits a nappy . Everyones happy, horse-riders(and owners of dogs) just need to be proactive and take a bit of responsibility...hardly seems much to ask!
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Old 25-03-07, 09:07 PM   #32
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Bah...

Expect the unexpected, that includes horse cr*p in the road. You ride enough in rural areas you get to expect this kind of thing, same with cow poo. If you ride over it and fall off, who's fault is it. The horses for doing it in the first place, the horse riders for not clearing it up, or yours for not having good enough forward observation and not being able to avoid it.

I've passed loads of horses and riders on the road, tell you what their a damn site more courteous towards bikers and car drivers than some bikers are.
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Old 25-03-07, 09:19 PM   #33
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Although i personally dont see why its still a moot point, horse defecates...owner picks it up/fits a nappy . Everyones happy, horse-riders(and owners of dogs) just need to be proactive and take a bit of responsibility...hardly seems much to ask!
Basicly a horse is more easily controlled from on it's back that on the ground... so getting off at the side of the road and attempting to shovel poo into the gutter whilst also controlling the aforemention ton of horseflesh... just no. I really don't get how anyone who has even seen a horse could consider this as being even remotely practical.

As for a nappy - again, strangely enough there is a reason that they don't exist - granted most people offer this up only as an amusing option with little seriousness - but there's no way you're going to be strapping a flapping collection bag between a horse's back legs and have a safe and controlled beast.

Otherwise, echoing Fizz's comments about forward observation.
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Old 25-03-07, 10:29 PM   #34
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Yes, forward observation is vitally important butt (get it) horse dropping shouldn't be left on the road either. Just as farmers have to remove mud then riders should remove poo. atually I only say that as I'd like it if Camilla P-B had to get off with her shovel and bucket in hand!
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Old 25-03-07, 10:34 PM   #35
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Basicly a horse is more easily controlled from on it's back that on the ground... so getting off at the side of the road and attempting to shovel poo into the gutter whilst also controlling the aforemention ton of horseflesh... just no. I really don't get how anyone who has even seen a horse could consider this as being even remotely practical.

As for a nappy - again, strangely enough there is a reason that they don't exist - granted most people offer this up only as an amusing option with little seriousness - but there's no way you're going to be strapping a flapping collection bag between a horse's back legs and have a safe and controlled beast.

Otherwise, echoing Fizz's comments about forward observation.
Well IMO(and it is just that) if people cant/wont clean up after their animals then they should not have them....the fact the law allows it just doesn't make any sense to me...especially as a horse, to my knowledge, pays no road tax. Perhaps a more sensible solution would be to put a tax/levy on all horseriders who use public roads to pay for people to go around cleaning it up.

It just really irks me that it is accepted as fine...which is a crock of horse ****!
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Old 25-03-07, 11:13 PM   #36
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What people do is it up to them, neither here nor there to me, (within reason). However i know we are of a minority and maybe should support other minorities, my problem with horses is that they do poo in the orad, BUT they leave it there, so it fertilises roses etc...yes, but it also makes a great acident waiting to happen for any motorcyclist, could be lethal, plase dont argue that that is right. generally if our bike were to leak oil over the roal i would like to think we would clean it or let the authorities know, horses dont, nor do their riders. That stuff is equally if not more dangerous than oil in my experiance and has been the cause of a few near misses for me...

They dont pay road tax and dont clean up their mess, in my opinion, and thats all this is they should do one of the two, after all when they are on the road everyone has to slow for them and they pose a danger to anyone overtaking etc, (I never know if they will buck or not) and they wear the road with their shoes and poo.

my opinions...and yes they are dangerous things imo...
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Old 26-03-07, 12:05 AM   #37
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Well, I always knock my revs off and coast by any horses I see being ridden on the roads.
Usually get a wave of appreciation

2 tons of dumb animal is not to be messed with, fluro jacketed, horsey toothed, Tabitha Harlequin-Farqhuar-Poncemby-Haemoroid, riding or not

I don't want a kick in the head from Trigger, no Sir

Pidgeons and conkers are bad enough .........damn a conker sounds loud at 70mph
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Old 26-03-07, 12:35 AM   #38
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Horse issues aside, has anyone questioned the stats yet?

The stats are apparently based on a serious accident for every 7,500 hours on a bike.

Ok, so presuming you average 60 miles an hour thats a serious accident every 450,000 miles. If you average 10,000 miles a year thats a serious accident every 45 years which is at odds of the national average for you having a bike accident.

Also, the above is just showing you can pretty much prove anything with statistics if you try hard enough

But then again, I guess some of us are having more than our fair share and skewing the stats anyway
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Old 26-03-07, 08:10 AM   #39
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Lies,dam lies and statistics,the greatest of which is statistics. Statistics can be misconstrued to read either good or bad depending on how they are achieved. Basic, a percentage,but of what by what. Facts or actuals are a different matter
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Gone are the days when mobile carts came round with the milk,vegetables and fruit and you would get sent out with a bucket to collect the droppings for the roses
I would love to be able to tell a mounted police person to clear up the ****
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Old 26-03-07, 08:13 AM   #40
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I'm utterly amazed at the attitudes shown on this thread. What's wrong with you people?! Loads of you are sounding like safety nazis.

This is a case where the old saying '**** happens' is most apt. If you're not willing to accept that biking caries a risk, then stop riding and buy a car, because if it isnt horse turds it'll be something else that has you off. No amount of legislation is ever going to remove the risks, and encoraging politicians to use their benevolent powers to save us all will only result in biking being banned all together.

Get a grip!
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