2000 GSXR 750 vs SV

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suz...r_750_2000.php

thats where I got 166kgs from

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suz...650_s_2003.php

and the SV weighs in at 165kgs

[yorkie_chris]

Doesn't make 141bhp either, though they are bloody quick.

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

I dont know where you get that from... A modern (07) Gixxer 600 weighs in at 179KG dry.

Dont believe the cack about just over 161 KG that they recon the new Gixxer weighs in at, Thats with no tyres no oils no battery no Coolant no anything moist. Which is a crock of crap, what use is that weight to anyone except the advertisers?

A 2008 GSXR600 fully wet weighs in at 192KG's. 17L of fuel weighs about 13KG... So 192 - 13 = 179KG Dry... I.E. No fuel.

Yes a gixxer weighs more than a SV650... just its placed better so a Gixxer feels like it weighs less. Its a kinda magic

I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before, lol, but where did you get that the SV is lighter than the GSX-R? Taking Suzuki's 'dry' weights, it's about 10 kilos heavier, maybe a little more - how can that change so dramatically once wet?

I agree on the wet weights though, magazine tests seem to show the 600s hovering there or thereabouts around 200kg. Generally a little under actually, but only be a few kilos.

No point arguing about the dry weight though it's too confusing. As you said it depends what 'kind' of dry you mean!!

[northwind]

Originally Posted by pencil shavings

the 2000 gsxr weights in at 166kg or somthing, so not hard to get that down to 160kg if you make it naked.

That was claimed for a 7/11 though, running lots of standard parts. If it was under 170 dry it was a miracle tbh.

Suzuki's claimed dry for a 2000 GSXR 750 was 166kg in america and 174kg in australia, for the exact same bike, which gives you a fair idea of how accurate these numbers are First you carefully measure the bike, then you ignore that and a marketing man decides how heavy it is. I don't even think it's as simple as weighing it without consumables, battery etc- I just think they make it up from whole cloth. Things are a wee bit more honest now though, because these days we're all power obsessed and not so much weight obsessed. Except me of course.

Hey, does anyone with a totally standard curvy SV-S or SV-N fancy brimming the tank and weighing the bike for me?

Originally Posted by northwind

That was claimed for a 7/11 though, running lots of standard parts. If it was under 170 dry it was a miracle tbh.

Suzuki's claimed dry for a 2000 GSXR 750 was 166kg in america and 174kg in australia, which gives you a fair idea of how accurate these numbers are First you carefully measure the bike, then you ignore that and a marketing man decides how heavy it is. I don't even think it's as simple as weighing it without consumables, battery etc- I just think they make it up from whole cloth. Things are a wee bit more honest now though, because these days we're all power obsessed and not so much weight obsessed. Except me of course.

Hey, does anyone with a totally standard curvy SV-S or SV-N fancy brimming the tank and weighing the bike for me?

hmmmm, so despite all these random figures...
would you expect the SV to weight less than a GSXR 7/11 or a 750?

[yorkie_chris]

Yes

[northwind]

Originally Posted by pencil shavings

would you expect the SV to weight less than a GSXR 7/11 or a 750?

Depends whose SV 7/11s you can't budget for, no two are the same... I can't remember the numbers for the 750s but they're in the same general ballpark, or were in 98 and 2003 when the SVs launched. SVs have got a bit heavier while GSXRS have wobbled about.

My SV weighed approx 185 kgs according to the MSVA test when I had it weighed with approx 9l of fuel see here:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...t=caravan+bulb

Originally Posted by muffles

I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before, lol, but where did you get that the SV is lighter than the GSX-R? Taking Suzuki's 'dry' weights, it's about 10 kilos heavier, maybe a little more - how can that change so dramatically once wet?

I agree on the wet weights though, magazine tests seem to show the 600s hovering there or thereabouts around 200kg. Generally a little under actually, but only be a few kilos.

No point arguing about the dry weight though it's too confusing. As you said it depends what 'kind' of dry you mean!!

Indeed. Wt they are just under 200KG's on average. We have had this convo but I dont like the fact that people get bull shi**ed and so try to let people know.

Originally Posted by northwind

That was claimed for a 7/11 though, running lots of standard parts. If it was under 170 dry it was a miracle tbh.

Suzuki's claimed dry for a 2000 GSXR 750 was 166kg in america and 174kg in australia, for the exact same bike, which gives you a fair idea of how accurate these numbers are First you carefully measure the bike, then you ignore that and a marketing man decides how heavy it is. I don't even think it's as simple as weighing it without consumables, battery etc- I just think they make it up from whole cloth. Things are a wee bit more honest now though, because these days we're all power obsessed and not so much weight obsessed. Except me of course.

I think your right about the numbers just been made up... I think the marketing man being in charge of the weights in the brochure's is the reason the SV is advertised as more but weighs less. Who would want the top of range bike sounding fat?

I dont think they are more honest though... lets face it they lie about power output and weight. Crank power? Another pointless figure since we, the gen public cant test crank power, only rear wheel power. A modern 600 with Exhaust and PC3 makes between 105-110bhp at the rear wheel. Simple as that. A 750 about 115-125bhp.

Originally Posted by pencil shavings

hmmmm, so despite all these random figures...
would you expect the SV to weight less than a GSXR 7/11 or a 750?

Aye... Like I mentioned already. Look at the engine block... Surly the gixxers is the heavier!?!?

Sorry to go off subject though pencil... I just think people deserve to know the truth when it comes to this.

BUT at the end of the day the numbers dont matter, its how they feel to ride and how they feel to go that counts... unless you like riding 2 miles to the pub and boasting of course

Hope you enjoy whatever you purchase... Should be a falco though to be honest.