Hate for are heroes

[gruntygiggles]

Nicky S, I think you've probably gathered by now that maybe if you are defending British troops, you could get a better grasp of the British language. Some of us are older and posts that aren't written in proper English can be really annoying. That's just a tip so you don't get picked up on it any more. If you don't care, than carry on as you are.

As for the subject as a whole, the protestors are British Muslims and as such, have every right to protest which is why the police allowed them to do so. That is our British law and anyone that is or becomes a British citizen, regardless of race or religion has equal rights in that respect so you can't condemn the police for doing their job.

The troops do deserve our respect and support and they have it from me always, regardless of my personal views on the war they are fighting in. However, we must remember that the people protesting have to sit at home and watch as troops go into their ancestral country (or religious home if they are British born) and fight a war that they don't believe needs fighting. However misguided their opinions and however misguided the actions of the politicians sending our troops in, you cannot expect everybody to just sit by and take it.

It's all too easy to group all Muslims together, but we should never do that. Those protestors are a minority and share a minority view amongst Muslims, so we can't tarnish all with the same brush.

They were protesting against the wrong people as others have already said. However, they are just trying to use a public arena to get their message across and they know that troops having abuse hurled at them will get into the public eye. The more people like you get up in arms about it, the more fuel you are adding to their fire.

Let them protest as they are allowed to by law but don't waste paper pages or news coverage on them....that's what they want.

Put your personal views aside for a while and research the Muslim faith, research the conflicts in the Middle East through the last 40 years, all of them, from both sides and then you may have a more rounded and developed knowledge of the situation upon which to build your own opinions.

Originally Posted by fraser01

I did 10 years in the army and remember some of the protests when we came back from tours...so I know where people are coming from and why there is outrage...

However I have my personal views and that's how they will stay...personal.

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And I did 10 yrs in the air force, however you are right, so I will say no more either .

The title of this thread reminds me of a great Facebook group I saw once along the lines of


Your in England so learn to speak the language

Originally Posted by oliciv

The title of this thread reminds me of a great Facebook group I saw once along the lines of


Your in England so learn to speak the language

not an oxford comma in sight!

What Grunty said.

Twice.

I was going to write something about hate fuelled racist ranting by people who "come over here" and can't be bothered to learn our language. But I think the subtleties would have been lost.

What Grunty states is both far more eloquent, far calmer and far more convincing than another of my typical rants.

[Nicky S]

ok so why has ever one picked up on the fact that i cant spell and also labed me a racist which im not i just think its out of order that they live in our country and yell abuse at are army who are only doing there job when it is for the good of them. but aprently im a racist. so why dose my view count ???? i dont h8 ever muslim most of the people i work with are muslim and i get on with them well.. i just didnt get what i was trying to say over to you lot proply.

Originally Posted by Nicky S

ok so why has ever one picked up on the fact that i cant spell and also labed me a racist which im not i just think its out of order that they live in our country and yell abuse at are army who are only doing there job when it is for the good of them. but aprently im a racist. so why dose my view count ???? i dont h8 ever muslim most of the people i work with are muslim and i get on with them well.. i just didnt get what i was trying to say over to you lot proply.

If what you were saying that its a disgrace how this minority protested against the soldiers (more so the way they did it)

I agree

Do you not believe in a right to protest?

You say that "they" live in "our" country as if they have less of a right to live here than you do...

Originally Posted by Nicky S

ok so why has ever one picked up on the fact that i cant spell and also labed me a racist which im not i just think its out of order that they live in our country and yell abuse at are army who are only doing there job when it is for the good of them. but aprently im a racist. so why dose my view count ???? i dont h8 ever muslim most of the people i work with are muslim and i get on with them well.. i just didnt get what i was trying to say over to you lot proply.

The bit in bold is what makes you an easy target for accusations of racism - not that I'm saying you are, I don't know you, perhaps you are perhaps you're not. They're British - that makes this their country every much as it's your country. They are entitled to their views just as much as you are.

I find their views pretty repulsive, I also find your views pretty repulsive - and doubtless many people out there find my views pretty repulsive. But rightly or wrongly, I'm entitled to mine, you're entitled to yours.

[Nicky S]

Originally Posted by oliciv

Do you not believe in a right to protest?

You say that "they" live in "our" country as if they have less of a right to live here than you do...

yer i do but how can you protest at that. we didnt go out there boming schools ect did we