Have joined the Mac clan

[hindle8907]

Im a hardcore gamer so would never by a mac, I would use all that cash to build a nice rig but when time comes to upgrade, it costs quite a bit, my latest PC rig is just over year old now and cost me just under £1000 to build at the time but its worth it to me becuase I enjoy my games.
However I do buy apples idevices iphone's/ipad as they do what i need them to and have excellent content,they look slick and run smooth and I enjoy the jail-breaking and JBscene and the techy stuff involved with making it mine.
And the resale value does come into play, becuase it gives me the flexibility to upgrade more regularly for little cost.
lol my mate got a blackberry torch the other day £449.99 iphone4 is £499.99

Torch resale value is now £168
Iphone resale value is now £315
Both pirces based on www.mazumamobile.com and the iphone probably wont go down much more I have said before I got around £230 for my iphone3g after 2 years of ownership and upgraded to the iphone4 when it was released .
Try that with an android phone I bet you would get peanuts if a brand new phone like the torch is only worth £160 now lol and its RRP is still £450. Similar findings with all the latest phones really all cost around £450+ and most of them are not worth half what they cost @ resale value apart from the iphone which resale value is still considerably more than half even though its the oldest device out of the lot. and why ? because its the best
Same will happen with all the tablets too.
so when your all walking into a shop and paying nearly £450 for a phone then walking out and its worth £160 as soon as you open it,
I'm sat here laughing knowing my device will still be worth around double that in year which will contribute to my next phone and yours will be near worthless.

[flymo]

Originally Posted by martin15s

perfect choice - they work - simples

lol, I hear this one alot in my role. "They just work...." yeah, except when they dont.

Had a mac here the other day exhibiting a network connection issue with our corp wifi setup. Simply wouldnt connect (yes I do know what I'm doing on these things), right along side is a nice shiny Windows 7 x64 machine. Turn on the wifi switch and bam, it connected. Mmmm, must be a wifi problem says the mac owner. Of course, it couldnt possibly be a faulty piece of operating system code could it?....or could it?

I have both Mac Pro and a decent Dell Win 7 Enterprise x64 machine, both are fantastic, neither are perfect. They are both designed and built by humans.

[Paul the 6th]

Originally Posted by flymo

I have both Mac Pro and a decent Dell Win 7 Enterprise x64 machine, both are fantastic, neither are perfect. They are both designed and built by humans.

mac's are pretty perfect though, aren't they

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

mac's are pretty perfect though, aren't they

SLAP


no they are not, now get back in your corner

Originally Posted by flymo

lol, I hear this one alot in my role. "They just work...." yeah, except when they dont.

Had a mac here the other day exhibiting a network connection issue with our corp wifi setup. Simply wouldnt connect (yes I do know what I'm doing on these things), right along side is a nice shiny Windows 7 x64 machine. Turn on the wifi switch and bam, it connected. Mmmm, must be a wifi problem says the mac owner. Of course, it couldnt possibly be a faulty piece of operating system code could it?....or could it?

I have both Mac Pro and a decent Dell Win 7 Enterprise x64 machine, both are fantastic, neither are perfect. They are both designed and built by humans.

Had the same happen to me, turns out OS X didn't like the fact that the network I was trying to connect it to had both WPA and WPA2 protection modes active, so it wouldn't even find it.

And funnily enough, I had a mate calling me yesterday late at night asking me what to do when some dumb user that is experiencing some weird problems decides to remove all Finder permissions to the File System and reboot the machine, effectively locking themselves out of the OS.

Yup, they just work. Except for when they don't.

Paul. Mac's are not perfect.

[flymo]

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

mac's are pretty perfect though, aren't they

nope. seems to have its own unique list of problems just like any OS I've ever used.

Nothing more than a matter of preference really. From an enterprise perspective the apple machines begin to show their weaknesses in a number of areas. In the consumer world which we are covering here generally often you carry out relatively simple tasks, in many of these there is nothing to show a difference between Macs and Win 7. A browser just browses, a media player plays media, it couldnt get easier.

As for installing software, yeah it may be a little different between the two but then they are different OS architectures. Well written installers on Windows require you to double click a setup.exe app, from a user perspective why would that be difficult? It matters not to you what goes on in the background to install it and get it running surely.

I've seen crappy apps on Mac just like I have on Windows. its the quality of these apps that usually influence the quality of the experience you get from the OS.

Originally Posted by flymo

As for installing software, yeah it may be a little different between the two but then they are different OS architectures. Well written installers on Windows require you to double click a setup.exe app, from a user perspective why would that be difficult? It matters not to you what goes on in the background to install it and get it running surely.

I've seen crappy apps on Mac just like I have on Windows. its the quality of these apps that usually influence the quality of the experience you get from the OS.

And usually when you uninstall stuff on a PC, a well designed uninstaller app (which are few and far between, unfortunately) will wipe a lot of the cack it installed in the first place; when you drag your app to the trash in a Mac, it doesn't touch the Library, where that application first run might have left a few things... where did all my hard drive space go?!

[flymo]

Originally Posted by Filipe M.

And usually when you uninstall stuff on a PC, a well designed uninstaller app (which are few and far between, unfortunately)....

I'm not sure I agree with that but there are certainly some pretty poor quality app vendors out there.

At work here we have a library of some 3000 applications or so, I dont know them all intimately of course but the percentage of these that had poor quality installers is actually fairly low.

Originally Posted by flymo

I'm not sure I agree with that but there are certainly some pretty poor quality app vendors out there.

At work here we have a library of some 3000 applications or so, I dont know them all intimately of course but the percentage of these that had poor quality installers is actually fairly low.

True, it has been getting better, but every now and again you still find uninstallers that limit themselves to deleting the program folder and don't clean up after themselves. Those were the ones I were referring to.