Road Positioning

[mister c]

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

Well I rarely use both sides of roads, not much point. When im wanting to over take I may stop out to get better visability but if its a clear road (no one in front of me) then ill stay on my side.

People mention streight lining turns. Im at a loss as to why you would want to. IMO the best bit of biking is getting it leaning over.

As for advanced riding. Its basically common sense. Its not like someone will never have the knowledge of an IAM rider without doing an IAM course, experience will no doubt teach you as much if not a damn sight more.

So if you dont have much Exp then go for it no doubt you will learn something from the IAM fella's/ladies.

This I like I agree entirely good post

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

I dont agree Kat. Its quite easy to let them past. Granted on a tight turn I wouldnt but on a streight or slight bend with a decent view ahead then I cant see the problem in moving over at all.

With a decent view, I would say it's up to the rider behind that wants to overtake, not the slower rider to move. If someone gave me grief for not moving when they wanted to overtake, then they would get the finger.

KK, as posted earlier by dirtydog (I believe), some "advanced" riders are a*holes (and I accept, that a proportion of every group of people are a*holes too). So I don't see why it's impossible for an "advanced" rider to actively block someone behind them, in order that the front rider have an optimal view of the road ahead.

I have been in situations before like the one mentionned above. The area I live in, you can wait a while before a decent overtaking opportunity arises (for example, on coming traffic blocks other opportunities). Of course, in those situations, I have no idea of knowing if the riders were "advanced" or not.

As for the subject of the front rider not being aware of my presence, I have a loud exhaust, and most look in their mirrors when I'm approaching. If someone hasn't looked in their mirrors by the time I'm ready to come past them, I hit the horn button to say "Hi, I'm here" - and those that have read details of my horn, know it gets me noticed.

So I don't see why it's impossible for an "advanced" rider to actively block someone behind them, in order that the front rider have an optimal view of the road ahead.

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I just dont understand why an "advanced" rider would need toblock someone. If they ride like this I wouldnt class them as "advanced" rider. If someone did this to me I would pull back or pull over for a while and let them disappear in to the distance.

Originally Posted by kitkat

I just dont understand why an "advanced" rider would need to block someone. If they ride like this I wouldnt class them as "advanced" rider.

You quote me before saying that I don't call it advanced riding.

I respect your view of pulling over & letting them get away more, but hasn't that just held you up even more, by you choosing to pull over?

Personally, in situations such as the above, I'd hang back from the rider, assuming they're a numpty, and make plans for the next few miles down the road so I could hopefully get them behind me.

The only ones that really wind me up these days are the weekend warriors that assume they can ride amazingly well, when in reality, they can't. When I was commuting long distance, I found them more funny than annoying though. Maybe that's down to the frequency of meeting them on the road.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I agree with KK on this, why should i have to move off of my line to let someone pass? I'm noit saying that i don't do it but why should i compromise my line for someone who is quicker than me? If they're that quick they shouldn't have any trouble getting past me should they?

Upto a point I can see what you are saying. Its not like you have to ride in the gutter to let them past just go to the middle of the road (leaving enough space on the right) give them a wave and bam they are gone. Do it just as you go onto a streight where it doesnt matter.

If someone was blocking me because they could and didnt want to let me past id not be happy especially if there is no reason for them not to. If they did wave me past id give them a thumbs up and everyone feels good that way.

Originally Posted by mister c

With a decent view, I would say it's up to the rider behind that wants to overtake, not the slower rider to move. If someone gave me grief for not moving when they wanted to overtake, then they would get the finger.

Oh noes. i wouldnt ever have a go at someone. Its their right to use the road. I just think its curtious to let people pass.

maybe its all down to what we have individually experienced. I have never been held up but then I dont ride too fast, I may have held others up and its tough ****. I will not pull over to the middle of the road (full of crap and diesel) so they can pass just as I will not pull over so a car can pass. If someone is annoying me I pull over so they are far away whether they are in front or behind me. When you are annoyed you are more likely to take risks.

its not who is right and who is wrong, its who is right and who is left!

Originally Posted by kitkat

When you are annoyed you are more likely to take risks.

Thats why I let people pass. I know that getting held up is going to annoy people who are following. The last thing I want is them taking a risk trying to get past and taking me out.

well everyone is different - the world would be a boring place if everyone was the same. Im obviously a selfish rider and ride for myself - its worked ok for past 7 years so Im going to carry on. If im at the annual run Ill wear a sign on my back saying "yes its me KK and no I wont pull over for you"

you have all been warned

Im not going . Sigh.

Originally Posted by kitkat

If im at the annual run Ill wear a sign on my back saying "yes its me KK and no I wont pull over for you"

I'd love to be a traffic cop following you with that sign on. I'd have to!!