Faith Healing

Originally Posted by Baph

From what I've read, Kawasaki Syndromme can, and does cause seizures. Rare that it is, they still happen.

I haven't seen this. Anywhere credible mention it? I think even Aspirin has it on the list of side effects though

Originally Posted by Baph

If I'm not sure what ails me, I refuse any medication. I do that on the basis that I remember the lectures at school about various diseases etc becoming acustommed to medicine & suitably adapting, so I'd rather my immune system cope by itself the majority of the time. That isn't how I react when the kids are ill though I hasten to add.

That only applies to bacteria based infections. You can grow a tolerance for some meds though. But I wouldn't refuse treatment on this basis.

Originally Posted by Baph

F_S, the local laws excempt a parent who treats their child solely with prayers from being charged criminally. The case rests on if they knew (beyond reasonable doubt) that her condition was deteriorating. We can't say, as we weren't there.

The law is very fuzzy here. You are convincted with neglect very often, regardless of their religious views. As a general rule, you will get prosecuted.

Originally Posted by anna

I don’t mean to throw the cat amongst the pigeons but, are you seriously trying to give a cybernet diagnosis of a medical condition to back an argument that says religious theories are not to be credited against scientific factual medical help?

What I can see here is that you are creating an argument by giving a diagnosis (not based on a medical examination) to then suggest that the Travolta family did not give their son the best medical help due to religious views.

Surely religious views are based on such fictional thoughts??

Theories and created scenarios to further discussions are all fine so long as that´s stated.

Yes. And I'm no MD But autism is an observed condition rather than tested (hence why it can be difficult to diagnose people with mild forms) and people of far higher authority than me have stated this. Epilepsy and autism are very closely related which is why autistic people tend to suffer from seizures fairly often.

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

I haven't seen this. Anywhere credible mention it? I think even Aspirin has it on the list of side effects though

See my post above, Scientific American.

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

And I'm no MD But autism is an observed condition rather than tested (hence why it can be difficult to diagnose people with mild forms) and people of far higher authority than me have stated this. Epilepsy and autism are very closely related which is why autistic people tend to suffer from seizures fairly often.

Oh believe me, there are tests for autism, but those tests are usually carried out by means of observation. Pedant? Me?

Autism is a very wide spectrum of mental issues. The vast majority of these issues don't give seizures (my son being a prime example), but the ones that do bring seizures with them, have more people suffering from them, so gain more limelight.

[anna]

Okay sure Autism can be diagnosed by observation however; the child in question was diagnosed by a medic.

To question his diagnosis on religious grounds is surely another discussion.

An engineer can be a member of scientology as can an MD. So a doctor of the medical profession can be discredited on the grounds of his religion?

Originally Posted by anna

Okay sure Autism can be diagnosed by observation however; the child in question was diagnosed by a medic.

Yup, and in the vast majority of cases, the diagnosis is by medically trained people making observations.

[anna]

Originally Posted by Baph

Yup, and in the vast majority of cases, the diagnosis is by medically trained people making observations.

did i not make my point???

Originally Posted by anna

did i not make my point???

Hey, if you don't want the backup, just say so.

[anna]

Originally Posted by Baph

Hey, if you don't want the backup, just say so.

... I just thought you were taking the mick out of the way I had written it!!.... my bad

Originally Posted by anna

Okay sure Autism can be diagnosed by observation however; the child in question was diagnosed by a medic.

To question his diagnosis on religious grounds is surely another discussion.

An engineer can be a member of scientology as can an MD. So a doctor of the medical profession can be discredited on the grounds of his religion?

Yes. Scientologist doctors are famed for their "somewhat" slated views on medicine.

They don't believe in Psychiatry for a start. At all.

Originally Posted by Baph

Yup, and in the vast majority of cases, the diagnosis is by medically trained people making observations.

In many cases the "trained" people will still not give a diagosis.They just class the child as having"global development delays"