NSL to be cut to 50mph

[ophic]

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

The Speed Limit for the Nation is 60, with the exception of Motorways where its 70.

I'm being pedantic, but you missed out dual carriageways. Common mistake.

load of old ****....

3300 people... we kill more than that in hospitals and though GP's incompetance, and though falling down stairs.... ffs....

oh yeah and teach kids how to read traffic and tell them not to play in it....


aghhh this country sucks ****.. im off

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Ed

David, you're over the top. Have you taken something today that's made you get so obtuse?

The point Magnum makes is a good one. So often you come out of a village and theres a NSL sign, closely followed by a tight and difficult bend, often with a farm entrance, cattle poo across the raod, every type of hazard imaginable.

It's not drivers who don't think. In these circumstances it's the man from the Ministry - or more likely, the Man from the Council - who hasn't really thought about the ideal place for the NSL sign. Why place a NSL sign, which most drivers will react to by increasing speed - we all do - only to have to brake again only a very short distance later. It makes no sense. Now you'll say that I should be thinking ;'is this safe' - and of course, I do go through that thought process - but why doesn't Man from the Ministry/Council recognise the hazards, and extend the speed restriction? Just because the houses have stopped doesn't mean to say that the hazards assoociated with a village have stopped too.

It is up to EVERY driver to ensure that they drive to the conditions, all that NSL sign says is "You can drive up to 60 mph" not "You HAVE to drive at 60 miles an hour"

Doesnt matter where the sign is - and drivers that just react to a speed change should be off the road.

To use your examples

So often you come out of a village and theres a NSL sign,

1) closely followed by a tight and difficult bend,

Which will be marked with a sign telling you thus - and probably warning chevrons

2) often with a farm entrance,

also marked with signs.

3) cattle poo across the raod,

Thats a variable hazard so cant be sign-posted for.

4) every type of hazard imaginable.

The last one is the one that proves your argument wrong.

You have to drive/ride anticipating that circumstances will change and you will have to take action - if you cant see the exit of a corner than slow down for example.

Its all down to drivers to make the right decision - if you enter an NSL then go off the next corner that is a bit tighter than you thought at 60mph and then try and say it was the Councils fault for not putting the sign half a mile down the road, hence forcing people to do that corner at 30 (when it might be safe at 40-50). then you probably shouldn't be on the road.

Oh and yeah, it does seem to be one of those days that we are butting heads Ed - as you know, nothing personal

Originally Posted by soulkiss

stuff

Originally Posted by soulkiss

oh and yeah, it does seem to be one of those days that we are butting heads ed - as you know, nothing personal

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by ophic

I'm being pedantic, but you missed out dual carriageways. Common mistake.

Pedantry is MY job -

Also not ALL dual carriage ways are 70 - so the sweeping statement (another speciality of mine) doesnt really work if you add them :P

So there

[yorkie_chris]

Not all motorways are 70 either?

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Not all motorways are 70 either?

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

we are going backwards in this country...

Originally Posted by mototech

we are going backwards in this country...

Yes, but at only at a safe 50 mph

[Grant66]

Drive to the condition of the road, not the speed limit.

Its not a difficult concept, perhaps they (the road authorities) should teach that somewhere!

Reducing the limit will just cause a greater difference between people driving to limits and those that drive to conditions.

All the evidence prior to 'Safety' Camera introduction points to the drivers who slightly exceed set speed limits to have less accidents than those that never exceeded the speed limit.