9/11 what really happened?

Originally Posted by lynw

To say the planes werent boarded is getting into the realms of science fiction.So the CIA kidnapped 3 planes worth of people at the airport, transported them to the WTC so they would die anyway and not remain alive to escape and speak out in the future? Or they have murdered them all [kind of defeats the point since the likelihood of death from impact into the building was pretty high] somewhere else and there are hidden graves somewhere of over 500 people?

What, and thats any less likely than three steel cored sky scrapers collapsing within 3 hours of one another from fire damage (the only three in history I might add)? Or that the CIA would have been conducting a simulation into 'what to do in the event of hijacked planes' on the morning of 9/11? Or that all NORAD procedures were discounted that day, and no fighter jets were dispatched. Even to the plane flying towards the Pentagon more than an hour later? Or a plane hitting the most guarded and recorded buliding in the world without being recorded on any camera? Or it being a coincidence that there was alarmingly high share dealing on American Airlines stock (enough for it to be checked out on Wall Street) in the weeks leading upto 9/11? Or that the FBI were able to name all 15 hijackers within hours of the events (despite the fact that some have since turned up alive)? Or that a supposed hijackers passport survived the crashes and was 'found' in the wreckage of the towers?

I won't continue....

Originally Posted by lynw

But the point is they didnt need to learn take off and landing only how to fly the plane to a set of co-ordinates.

Weird, isn't that what the official explanation is? You'll be telling me next that burning jet oil melted a steel structure of a building

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Weird, isn't that what the official explanation is? You'll be telling me next that burning jet oil melted a steel structure of a building

You've never been near aviation fuel then?

2. Heat from the Fires
The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Most fires don't get hotter than 900 to 1,100 degrees F. The World Trade Center fire may have reached 1,300 or 1,400 degrees F. Structural steel does not easily melt, but it will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel structure of the Twin Towers was weakened by the extreme heat. The steel also became distorted because the heat was not a uniform temperature.

Originally Posted by DanDare

You've never been near aviation fuel then?

No, but i'm sure you're gonna tell me that you have?

If so, i'd be intereste to know at what temperature aviation fuel burns? Then I can compare this with the temperature that the steel croe would melt (something like putting 2 and 2 togethor) to come up with 17.

So what about building 7?

Originally Posted by keithd

Lol @ the 9/11 comission report.

Shame we'll never really know though, as the steel was disposed of as quick as possible.

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Lol @ the 9/11 comission report.

is that what it is? i got that from an architectural website

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Shame we'll never really know though, as the steel was disposed of as quick as possible.

much of it has been recycled. i'm sure you can get hold of some and carry out your owns tests if required.

Originally Posted by keithd

is that what it is? i got that from an architectural website

SO what about building 7?

Originally Posted by keithd

much of it has been recycled. i'm sure you can get hold of some and carry out your owns tests if required.

I wonder why this was never done then? Rather than letting people make up their own minds, surely it would have been more sensible to carry ou the test as you suggest?