Am I hanging off too much?

[DarrenSV650S]

Originally Posted by ArtyLady

but surely if the bike is more upright it wont go round the corner?

Well I reckon hanging off has the same effect as leaning the bike. So lets say the bike is more upright............ for it to go round the same corner at the same speed you would need to hang off it to pull you around the corner

[DarrenSV650S]

Michael Neeves explains it better than I am here

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S

Well I reckon hanging off has the same effect as leaning the bike. So lets say the bike is more upright............ for it to go round the same corner at the same speed you would need to hang off it to pull you around the corner

It does.

The CoG (of the rider and bike combined) is normally vertical, it is leaned over to go around a corner.

When hanging off, the CoG of the system is effectively leaned over more than the CoG of the bike alone, meaning you have effectively more lean angle.

But, the tyres only notice the lean angle of the bike alone so you get a slightly larger contact patch.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

It does.

The CoG (of the rider and bike combined) is normally vertical, it is leaned over to go around a corner.

When hanging off, the CoG of the system is effectively leaned over more than the CoG of the bike alone, meaning you have effectively more lean angle.

But, the tyres only notice the lean angle of the bike alone so you get a slightly larger contact patch.

Plowsie, that, right there, is a technical description of what I said to you at AR07.

For everyone else, I told Plowsie that I rarely lean off at all (I still don't) unless I'm hooning around, or the road conditions aren't great (it was raining when I talked to Plowsie). My argument for climbing off the bike more in the wet was that the bike can stay more upright & still make the corner, so you get better grip & it's safer.

Plowsie listened, tried it, and said he felt the same.

As for the topic of the thread, IMO Plowsie, you're hanging off fine. When the weather gets better, don't stick the knee out as much. Instead throw the bike over more. Your knee will still hit the floor, and you'll be going faster around the corner.

meeeeeeeee!!.jpg and im not hanging enough! but being a short ****, thats all i have to give!! lol

[yorkie_chris]

Move your head over more IMO. You should be closer to saying hello to the wingmirror

ill give that ago.... well when the bloody weather sorts its self out!!!

[yorkie_chris]

It's rare that my rse leaves the seat, a lot of my quick riding over summer is done 2 up so no point hanging off like an ape. I just move my head and upper body, it has the same effect.

[DarrenSV650S]

Where is Dangerous Dave?

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S

Where is Dangerous Dave?

Probably in danger somewhere