knife Laws ?

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by ophic

how does a knife make catching a rabbit any easier?

I was talking more about the killing/skinning of said beastie...

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Its not the number of knives on the street thats the problem, its the number of people not taught about personal responsibility thats the problem.

Good point

[ophic]

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

I was talking more about the killing/skinning of said beastie...

ok. I just had an image of a troop of victorinox wielding boy scouts hiding in a huge tent, waiting for an unsuspecting bunny to hop by, and then.... charge! and the bunny would likely as not hop away under minimum effort cos they really can get a wriggle on when they want to.

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by ophic

and armed burglar no 1 is on the other side of the door, waiting for you to come barging out, whilst his mate cleans out all your possessions downstairs. You come out, you're dead. You don't come out, well you're of no concern to them. Oh hang on, that's back to the situation we have now - only if you investigate and he's armed, he's likely not to shoot you.

The tools are irrelevant - someone who makes a living out of burgling properties is always gonna have the edge, or have a very short career. You don't make a living out of defending your property - generally, you just live in it. Lobbing guns/ammo/knives/offensive weapons into the mix just adds more accidents/deaths/severe injuries.

Might make house insurance prices go down though. Dead men can't claim.

I grew up in Brazil, and I still have a property there. Guns are prevalent out there, just about anybody who is anybody has one and they are frequently carried covertly and not just kept at home. Gun crime is common and most persons killed whilst being robbed are not shot by the person confronting them but by his mate who is standing to one side and who you haven't even seen. The point is that carrying a gun to protect yourself is not a good idea. Even assuming you were good enough to get it out and shoot the person threatening you before they slotted you then you would have to be incredibly skillful and lucky to get his mate as well. This is the real world, not a Hollywood movie where the good guy always wins. I take sensible precautions to avoid making myself an easy target but if confronted I'm not about tho throw my life away over the contents of my wallet.

[Mej]

when i go diving day or night, people always have fairly large knives for diving, they never seem too concerned

[skeetly]

Originally Posted by carlos

But the country is facing a problem with knife crime

Is it? Really?
I reckon you'd have trouble finding stats to back this up.
It's an easy hit for politicians looking for a 'lets see something get done' vote getter.
It's not the knife that's the problem; its the idiots using them. Preventing *everyone* from carrying a knife won't stop the stabbings. It's impossible to search and catch the perpetrators before they do anything.
Arrests for knife crime will go up though

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by skeetly

Is it? Really?
I reckon you'd have trouble finding stats to back this up.
It's an easy hit for politicians looking for a 'lets see something get done' vote getter.
It's not the knife that's the problem; its the idiots using them. Preventing *everyone* from carrying a knife won't stop the stabbings. It's impossible to search and catch the perpetrators before they do anything.
Arrests for knife crime will go up though

Spot on.

The law says I cant carry a knife and I want to do someone damage?

Let me just pack a few tools, hammer, screwdrivers and the like into a canvas bag instead then - I have a flat-bladed screwdriver thats long enough to go in one side of your head and out the other if I wished, and as for the claw hammer. I challenge anyone to be able to prove that I am not just on my way to a mates to help him with some DIY, or even, as I am a bit clever, to be on my way back, with proveable signs of work done that would forensically match the tools I was carrying...

Criminalising people for just possessing/carrying tools, which is what knives ARE at the end of the day is stupid - it is just convenient that in the absence of anything else to get someone on, the police can take you off the streets for having it - sloppy useless policing that does the average cop on the street no favours after people have fallen foul of it.

[Mej]

i still personally think compared to other countries such as the states, we have a very low murder rate.

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Spot on.

The law says I cant carry a knife and I want to do someone damage?

Let me just pack a few tools, hammer, screwdrivers and the like into a canvas bag instead then

your going equipped to steal then though

Originally Posted by mkz9876

your going equipped to steal then though

The cops tried doing me for "Going Equipped" because I had a hammer in a bag. Then the realised they'd made a balls up and tried to get me to accept a caution, which I wouldn't. They eventually had to drop the charge before the CPS threw it out.