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Old 12-11-08, 07:51 PM   #81
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Being a parent, I am fully supportive of your proposals MYC. However, the caveat to that, is that I'd have to agree to it ignorant to what some people feel is acceptable.
Indeed, having no kids of my own doesn't put me in good stead for forming much an opinion on the subject really, just a thought of mine, one which would never come into play anyway!

And as you say, it would be one step away from a child licence then there'd be pet licences - more for dogs and budgies, I know they exist for some pets and for keeping certain animals and so on. But then how bad could that really be? If you want a rescue dog from the RSPCA you need to have a house check and be questioned, should there not be some sort of reassurance that you are capable of bringing up a child in a reasonably suitable environment? NOT that I am comparing a child to a dog but I think you get my drift.

And yes, as most people will no doubt bring up, all a child needs is love and attention, and it would be impossible to judge people on how capable they are at giving these to a child hence why I don't think licences could come into play.
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Old 12-11-08, 07:54 PM   #82
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Deny someone what they want with a true passion, and they will find the means to obtain it.

The moment regulations were brought in to control child birth (for whatever reason), the government would also be bringing an increased number of kidnappings. Sad, but proven true by China.
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Old 12-11-08, 08:20 PM   #83
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Is any of that a fact? Or is that just what the prosecution are claiming?
So is it Bull$hit?-look at her interviews before she was found out to be involved-how would you describe the experiance she's (the kid) went through?
YOU sound like a defence lawyer
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Old 12-11-08, 08:22 PM   #84
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So is it Bull$hit?
I honestly don't know either way. That's the job of the jury, not that I envy them at all.
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Old 12-11-08, 08:27 PM   #85
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Husky03 - when neio is elected as prime minister will you be one of his ministers?
Depends mate-I find myself and Neio having very similar beliefs over certain points-must both be institutionalised -Joe public don't have a scooby doo whats going on on there doorstep and to be honest i think most are happy with that -when it gets down to the nitty gritty we are too soft nowadays.
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Old 12-11-08, 08:41 PM   #86
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Depends mate-I find myself and Neio having very similar beliefs over certain points-must both be institutionalised -Joe public don't have a scooby doo whats going on on there doorstep and to be honest i think most are happy with that -when it gets down to the nitty gritty we are too soft nowadays.

Very true, also we are probably both hard as fook!!
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Old 12-11-08, 08:46 PM   #87
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Very true, also we are probably both hard as fook!!
Kin hell mate its amazing that even although you've never met someone in the flesh before you just know there one of the good guys-pint for you anytime mate
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Old 12-11-08, 08:53 PM   #88
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The reason we have a justice system is well illustrated in this thread.Its there to be dispassionate rather than pander to the worst excesses of an ill informed mob.
A couple of points.I was "done over" and robbed once,and I would cheerfully have killed whoever did it(no kidding)but a court would have looked at the case dispassionately and dealt with it as such.Which is better?Let people like me kill crooks or have a proper system?
We have gone through different cycles of punishment regimes over the years,and it does seem that harsher punishment does not mean less crime.You used to get executed for stealing a loaf of bread,but it still happened.And Tony Blairs tough on crime thing?Well over the last decade or so we have increased levels of punishment significantly(hence the prisons being full to overcapacity)but the impact on criminality is small if any at all.Zero tolerance seems to have been a failure despite Tonys best efforts.
Anyway Id advise to be careful what you wish for in a justice system.Lynching speeding bikers would go down a treat in some influential circles,and floggings for loud pipes too.
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Kin hell mate its amazing that even although you've never met someone in the flesh before you just know there one of the good guys-pint for you anytime mate
Yep. Ditto .
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Old 12-11-08, 09:03 PM   #90
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Husky03 - when neio is elected as prime minister will you be one of his ministers?
can i be Minister for Immigration
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