Shame on anyone who didn't turn out to vote

Aye, ill put an 'X' in your box Mini Matt

Can I be your minister for Transport?

[Spiderman]

Nice work on the Manifesto MiniMatt and if only it was as simple as you descriibe it.

getting into politics aint easy, free or even cheap. Thats why all the major parties have to hand out Lordships to get sponsorships from the uber-rich.

Didi you know for example, if you wanted to run for Mayor of London you have to put down a £10K deposit that you dont get back unless you win.

So as much as we could all write a manifesto that would appeal to a lot of peeps none of us really has the money to burn to run without wanting to win.

And as said before, with such a popular manifesto like yours, you WILL win. Then what you gonna do? Say "No thanks, give it to the ones who came in second"?

Its the system from the top to the bottom that is corrupt and the last thing they want is the Great Unwashed getting in their and seeing the truth of it for themselves.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Nice work on the Manifesto MiniMatt and if only it was as simple as you descriibe it.

getting into politics aint easy, free or even cheap. Thats why all the major parties have to hand out Lordships to get sponsorships from the uber-rich.

Didi you know for example, if you wanted to run for Mayor of London you have to put down a £10K deposit that you dont get back unless you win.

So as much as we could all write a manifesto that would appeal to a lot of peeps none of us really has the money to burn to run without wanting to win.

And as said before, with such a popular manifesto like yours, you WILL win. Then what you gonna do? Say "No thanks, give it to the ones who came in second"?

Its the system from the top to the bottom that is corrupt and the last thing they want is the Great Unwashed getting in their and seeing the truth of it for themselves.

Correction on the London Mayoral elections - you get your deposit money back if you collect 5% of the first choice vote. Substantially different to winning, but still 10K is a hell of a lot of money I grant you.

But why pick that? Democracy is everywhere, you need a £500 deposit to stand as an MP, again you get that back if you win 5% of the vote. You need NO DEPOSIT WHATSOEVER to stand in local council and parish council elections.

And if you do win? Then what? Complain some more? Or do something to make things better. Seriously fight for democracy, stop talking about all those people who died for it, because, quite frankly, they're dead and they don't care. I threw that suggestion out as merely that, a suggestion with no thought, there are doubtless many other ways that one can make a difference too, but complaining about it is sure as hell not one of them.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

Democracy is everywhere, you need a £500 deposit to stand as an MP, again you get that back if you win 5% of the vote. You need NO DEPOSIT WHATSOEVER to stand in local council and parish council elections.

Thanks Matt, i never knew that. Thats what i love about being on the Org, i always find out something new.

And i agree with you about the dead and the not complainging bit for sure. But thats a national pastime here isn't it? Get shafted and say nothing at the tie but then complain as much as you like about it.

i'm suprised the queues for the Complaints Dept aren't much bigger tbh, that combines 2 of the great british pasties right there... queuing and complainging, lol.


Seriously tho, many friends have said to me i should be in politics but i have no idea where i would start, you however seem to know a bit more about it so if you have any pointers feel free to post them up mate

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

that combines 2 of the great british pasties right there... queuing and complainging, lol.

I think you will find that 1 of the great british pasties is "cornish", but getting one does often involve queuing

[Spiderman]

missed an M and it made comedy. I'm class

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Stu

Which?

Not this one:

Originally Posted by northwind

Not this one:

lmfao, I remember that night well. Debs, if you read this, I'm sorry, but it was very funny!!

Northy, I think you'll pay for posting that if she sees it...

Originally Posted by lazymanc

... to prevent that biggoted nob-head getting an MEP seat in the North West.

It's embarassing to think that an area with such large and successful immigrant populations in Liverpool and Manchester can end up with a nazi for our European representation.

That is all.

If it wasn't Nick that got elected then some other nob head would have got it. I'm glad he got it.