Council unlawful? take a look at this. - SV650.org

flymo · 29-04-10, 09:59 AM

http://www.tpuc.org/content/wirral-c...cil-tax-unlawf

Any legal peeps out there with an opinion on this?

the_lone_wolf · 29-04-10, 10:17 AM

Don't know about the legal details, but in the letter dated 23rd July 2009 the part labelled in red that they seem to be basing their entire argument on doesn't mean anything like what they're saying it does...

29-04-10, 10:27 AM

At no point do Wirral admit that council tax is unlawful.

29-04-10, 10:36 AM

Sometimes it's cheaper to drop a case than to litigate.

29-04-10, 10:49 AM

I wouldn't advocate anyone withholding their Council Tax on the basis of this one case. This case does not set legal precident.

There are thousands of liability orders issued up and down the land each year and people have gone to jail for none payment.

On the other hand, if someone on here wanted to try it I'm sure we'd all offer moral support

timwilky · 29-04-10, 11:17 AM

I would gladly pay his council tax, it is less than half of mine. He doesn't know when he is well off.

Bri w · 29-04-10, 11:48 AM

Someone has got to empty my bins etc, and I accept these are services I have to pay for. Whether I get value for money or not...

29-04-10, 11:58 AM

"Cheaper not to litigate" is probably OK in the case of an individual but what happens if a couple of hundred try this? Surely that would set a legal precedent.
I can't work out if he refused to pay his council tax or refused to accept the legality of the system by which it was being claimed.
I think it is the second e-mail where he offers to pay.

flymo · 29-04-10, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed

Sometimes it's cheaper to drop a case than to litigate.

thats what I was thinking, if this ever reached a stage where many people tried the same thing then the council/government would be all over it.

phi-dan · 29-04-10, 12:36 PM

Isn't the same guy that doesn't pay his tv license, speeding fines etc http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=144575&page=2

29-04-10, 09:59 AM	#1
flymo Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North West Posts: 3,124	Council unlawful? take a look at this. http://www.tpuc.org/content/wirral-c...cil-tax-unlawf Any legal peeps out there with an opinion on this?

29-04-10, 10:17 AM	#2
the_lone_wolf Captain Awesome Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hamble Posts: 4,266	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. Don't know about the legal details, but in the letter dated 23rd July 2009 the part labelled in red that they seem to be basing their entire argument on doesn't mean anything like what they're saying it does... __________________ Official "Dumbass of the Year" 2011 (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) Deal with it...

29-04-10, 10:27 AM	#3
ravingdavis Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. At no point do Wirral admit that council tax is unlawful.

29-04-10, 10:36 AM	#4
Ed Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. Sometimes it's cheaper to drop a case than to litigate.

29-04-10, 10:49 AM	#5
Jabba Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. I wouldn't advocate anyone withholding their Council Tax on the basis of this one case. This case does not set legal precident. There are thousands of liability orders issued up and down the land each year and people have gone to jail for none payment. On the other hand, if someone on here wanted to try it I'm sure we'd all offer moral support

29-04-10, 11:17 AM	#6
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. I would gladly pay his council tax, it is less than half of mine. He doesn't know when he is well off. __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

29-04-10, 11:48 AM	#7
Bri w Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Turre, Almeria Posts: 668	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. Someone has got to empty my bins etc, and I accept these are services I have to pay for. Whether I get value for money or not... __________________ *"It's not the years in your life, it's the life in your years."* Currently - Fighting the urge... seen a nice Triumph America Previously - Honda CB125, Honda CB400-4 & BSA B40, Moto Guzzi 850, Yamaha RD250, Suzuki GT380, Kawasaki Z1B, Kawasaki Z650, Honda VFR, Triumph Street Triple R.

29-04-10, 11:58 AM	#8
Dicky Ticker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. "Cheaper not to litigate" is probably OK in the case of an individual but what happens if a couple of hundred try this? Surely that would set a legal precedent. I can't work out if he refused to pay his council tax or refused to accept the legality of the system by which it was being claimed. I think it is the second e-mail where he offers to pay. Last edited by Dicky Ticker; 29-04-10 at 12:03 PM.

29-04-10, 12:36 PM	#10
phi-dan Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: going up Camborne hill coming down Posts: 251	Re: Council unlawful? take a look at this. Isn't the same guy that doesn't pay his tv license, speeding fines etc http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=144575&page=2 __________________ Was: Red curvy S: crash bungs, double bubble screen, fenda extenda, HEL front lines, OEM belly pan Now: Blue FZ6 Fazer

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