Slip-On OR Full System? - SV650.org

26-01-05, 01:06 AM

Hey guys,

OK. As some of you know, I have brought up a few new threads on exhausts. I think I have finally settled on the M4 Exhaust system which are made in Texas, USA. I have also decided that I will go with the aluminum finish over the titanium and carbon. I went against carbon to save a few bucks and the aluminum looks better than titanium on my bike.

M4 Slip-On

M4 Full-System

Now, my father was talking to a fellow at a dealership about exhausts. He said that a slip-on is a waste of money. Now, remember I am a student with a part time job so money is a factor. A slip-on is ~$450.00 online and a full-system is ~$750.00. This includes shipping and taxes to get it to me and all that stuff.

A slip on I think I could install myself. A full-system I think I'd need a dealer to do. I want a new exhaust for the sound and looks. I am not to eager on the performance. But what the dealer told my father is that you would be spending more money of re-jetting and all this other stuff. (Starting to get out of my league...)

With a slip-on, am I going to be effecting the airflow or anything like that? Will there be more expenses that I am unaware of?

Thank you for your input,

Mitch

26-01-05, 03:04 AM

this is only my opinion..... Full System, why? a slip on requires a hack saw.... the first tool in doing a hack job.... to me, a slip on is only one step above drilling holes. do yourself a favor take advantage of the research & development that makes a full system a real improvement over the stock

26-01-05, 03:08 AM

i had one of these and i think if im right rictus has one too
but with rictus its an m4 front pipe with a rene or acraprovic can ( i think)

the m4 full system is the way to go albeit the aluminum finish will require constant cleaning you do know this i presume

apparently the m4 gives the best performance out put for a single exhaust and jetting that you can get unless things have changed since last year

they sound very low noted and are built really well ( by this i mean they are constructed too allow for the v twin pulses ) unlike some other manufacturers whose cans crack and falter after time *AHEM* bluflame *AHEM*

you wont be dissapointed

26-01-05, 04:26 AM

Yeah, it'd be better to wait a little while longer and get the full system. You would need a power comander or equivalent to fully exploit the system, but it is probably a worthwhile investment. (for an additional $300).

However, if you decide to go with the slip-on, you can always buy a previously enjoyed stock system for cheap, and hack that up instead, keeping your own stock exhaust original. This way, when and if you decide to sell, stock is always worth a few more loonies*!!

Jr

* the Canadian equivalent to quid.

26-01-05, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior

[snip]decide to sell, stock is always worth a few more loonies*!!

Jr

* the Canadian equivalent to quid.

is that the coin that the center falls out

26-01-05, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior

[snip]decide to sell, stock is always worth a few more loonies*!!

Jr
* the Canadian equivalent to quid.

is that the coin that the center falls out

That's the toonie... and it doesn't fall out easy... I've tried...

Mitch

26-01-05, 05:30 AM

Hey,

But that is the thing I am running into, if I go full system, I have to get a PowerCommanderIII which adds MORE costs. I guess if the full system was only a few hundred more dollars I would go with it... but it seems like these 'secret' costs come up later. Also, I'd have to get someone to install it. I wouldn't tackle the full system. So there's more money to install plus I'd have to get things 'set up'? Technical computer stuff... with PCIII and pipe, etc...?

A slip on, I could do.

Mitch

26-01-05, 06:26 AM

Actually ya know, it's not that difficult to remove the whole system from an SV (akward for sure, but not difficult). I guess think long term. Ask yourself these questions.....

Am I gonna have the bike for more than a couple years?

Am I after more power, or better sound?

When I peg the throttle, am I wanting more?

Would the extra couple of ponies be worth the cash outlay?

Would I benefit more from a track day with a good instructor?

Of course, if I followed that advise, my bike would be stock.

As for the toonie thing, that whole thing took on a life of it's own. I think like one or two actually came apart. (remember the Audi sticking accelerator scare of the mid eighties? Cripes, I am getting old....

)

rictus01 · 26-01-05, 06:40 AM

As was said, I to have a full M4 system, although I'vehad the link pipe modifed to take a Rene titanium can.

see my comments on the system Here.

and on the modification Here..

Cheers Mark.

26-01-05, 11:32 AM

I'm not very knowledgeable on exhausts, so will stay out of that, but you don't need to spend hundreds on a power commander, any dealer worth their salt will have access to a Yoshimura remapping box.
Once you've done all your mods, go to them and get it remapped and all will be beautiful.
The sv just isn't worth spending hundreds for a PC3 when you get almost as good results from something else.

26-01-05, 01:06 AM	#1
MitchC Guest Posts: n/a	Slip-On OR Full System? Hey guys, OK. As some of you know, I have brought up a few new threads on exhausts. I think I have finally settled on the M4 Exhaust system which are made in Texas, USA. I have also decided that I will go with the aluminum finish over the titanium and carbon. I went against carbon to save a few bucks and the aluminum looks better than titanium on my bike. M4 Slip-On M4 Full-System Now, my father was talking to a fellow at a dealership about exhausts. He said that a slip-on is a waste of money. Now, remember I am a student with a part time job so money is a factor. A slip-on is ~$450.00 online and a full-system is ~$750.00. This includes shipping and taxes to get it to me and all that stuff. A slip on I think I could install myself. A full-system I think I'd need a dealer to do. I want a new exhaust for the sound and looks. I am not to eager on the performance. But what the dealer told my father is that you would be spending more money of re-jetting and all this other stuff. (Starting to get out of my league...) With a slip-on, am I going to be effecting the airflow or anything like that? Will there be more expenses that I am unaware of? Thank you for your input, Mitch

26-01-05, 06:40 AM	#9
rictus01 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South London Posts: 9,799	As was said, I to have a full M4 system, although I'vehad the link pipe modifed to take a Rene titanium can. see my comments on the system Here. and on the modification Here.. Cheers Mark. __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!

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26-01-05, 03:04 AM	#2
RandyO Guest Posts: n/a	this is only my opinion..... Full System, why? a slip on requires a hack saw.... the first tool in doing a hack job.... to me, a slip on is only one step above drilling holes. do yourself a favor take advantage of the research & development that makes a full system a real improvement over the stock

26-01-05, 03:08 AM	#3
Barty_b0y Guest Posts: n/a	i had one of these and i think if im right rictus has one too but with rictus its an m4 front pipe with a rene or acraprovic can ( i think) the m4 full system is the way to go albeit the aluminum finish will require constant cleaning you do know this i presume apparently the m4 gives the best performance out put for a single exhaust and jetting that you can get unless things have changed since last year they sound very low noted and are built really well ( by this i mean they are constructed too allow for the v twin pulses ) unlike some other manufacturers whose cans crack and falter after time AHEM bluflame AHEM you wont be dissapointed

26-01-05, 04:26 AM	#4
Junior Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, it'd be better to wait a little while longer and get the full system. You would need a power comander or equivalent to fully exploit the system, but it is probably a worthwhile investment. (for an additional $300). However, if you decide to go with the slip-on, you can always buy a previously enjoyed stock system for cheap, and hack that up instead, keeping your own stock exhaust original. This way, when and if you decide to sell, stock is always worth a few more loonies!! Jr the Canadian equivalent to quid.

26-01-05, 05:30 AM	#7
MitchC Guest Posts: n/a	Hey, But that is the thing I am running into, if I go full system, I have to get a PowerCommanderIII which adds MORE costs. I guess if the full system was only a few hundred more dollars I would go with it... but it seems like these 'secret' costs come up later. Also, I'd have to get someone to install it. I wouldn't tackle the full system. So there's more money to install plus I'd have to get things 'set up'? Technical computer stuff... with PCIII and pipe, etc...? A slip on, I could do. Mitch

26-01-05, 06:26 AM	#8
Junior Guest Posts: n/a	Actually ya know, it's not that difficult to remove the whole system from an SV (akward for sure, but not difficult). I guess think long term. Ask yourself these questions..... Am I gonna have the bike for more than a couple years? Am I after more power, or better sound? When I peg the throttle, am I wanting more? Would the extra couple of ponies be worth the cash outlay? Would I benefit more from a track day with a good instructor? Of course, if I followed that advise, my bike would be stock. As for the toonie thing, that whole thing took on a life of it's own. I think like one or two actually came apart. (remember the Audi sticking accelerator scare of the mid eighties? Cripes, I am getting old.... )

26-01-05, 11:32 AM	#10
Carsick Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not very knowledgeable on exhausts, so will stay out of that, but you don't need to spend hundreds on a power commander, any dealer worth their salt will have access to a Yoshimura remapping box. Once you've done all your mods, go to them and get it remapped and all will be beautiful. The sv just isn't worth spending hundreds for a PC3 when you get almost as good results from something else.