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Old 03-04-07, 12:09 PM   #1
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Default Ignition Retarder

Just been browsing another (shock! Horror ) SV site

http://www.sv650.tk/ (Scottish section)

and found a section about removal of the ignition retarder and it says

quote" ...get about 1bhp extra from 2nd and 3rd gear, the reason there is a retarder on 2nd and 3rd gear is so the bike can meet E.U noise regulations, ..."

is this true? Not fussed about just interested to see if it is actually the case?

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Old 03-04-07, 12:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ignition Retarder

Tis true, do a search for TRE mod (Timing Retard Eliminator).
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Old 03-04-07, 12:17 PM   #3
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Not that simple, it basically moves the power up the rev range so you don't get more at full power (or if you do, it's irrelevant) but you get a tiny wee bit more at lower revs. I didn't notice any difference myself, but some people do. Is it psychological? Who cares? As long as it feels real to you what does it matter It's also free and takes about 10 seconds to do, so even if you think it does nothing there's nothing to lose. If you do it right you can lose a couple of feet of wire as well, which will save you, oh, tens of grams
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Old 03-04-07, 07:53 PM   #4
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Did this tonight, havent had a chance to "test" the feeling of 1-2 extra horses :LOL: but hey it was cool to say i did it! haha!
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Old 10-04-07, 01:05 PM   #5
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stupid question.........but how do you remove the wires? do you just pull them out?
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Old 10-04-07, 01:27 PM   #6
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stupid question.........but how do you remove the wires? do you just pull them out?
carefully, or with wire cutters, depending on how your "undo" button in the toolkit's doing
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Old 10-04-07, 02:33 PM   #7
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i dont want to cut the wire i just want to get them out of the big connecter .
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Old 10-04-07, 02:49 PM   #8
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i dont want to cut the wire i just want to get them out of the big connecter .

I have just done mine, I used a small flat blade screw driver, pushed it gently down the bottom face of the conector whilst gently pulling on the wire. If you have released the conector with the screw driver the wire will pull out without much of a tug. Then repeat on the other wire.
I noticed that after I done mine, in second and third it reached the rev limiter very quickly. Its now how the bike was meant to be, not a huge difference but it was noticable
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Old 10-04-07, 03:06 PM   #9
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so you just wiggle in the other end & give it a little pull?
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Old 11-04-07, 05:12 PM   #10
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so you just wiggle in the other end & give it a little pull?

Thats about it, the wire is held in by a little plastic lug that is part of the conector body.........
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