Housemate help

[joshmac]

wow thats good.

As far as we're concerned as long as the place looks the same as it did when we moved in then the landlady shouldn't have a problem. But I guess it looked so bad she actually thought he might not bother to clean up full stop, judging by how long the plates had already been there :rolleyes:

I still find it funny he hasn't told her he's not technically a student after his final exam tomorrow....he's going to find a job apparently, haha don't make me laugh! Gah mu.....st.....re...vise....
Meh! It's easy..
Just remember that 2 nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors + 1 non-nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitor or 1 protease inhibitor are needed to use for highly active antiretroviral therapy.

Wish my exams were that easy :p

[chris8886]

Meh! It's easy..
Just remember that 2 nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors + 1 non-nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitor or 1 protease inhibitor are needed to use for highly active antiretroviral therapy.

Wish my exams were that easy :p

you don't have a clue what you're on about do you?! :rolleyes:

[joshmac]

you don't have a clue what you're on about do you?! :rolleyes:
No idea whatsoever! :lol: Although I do know that I'm right in saying it. I'm sure Maria will confirm this for you ;)

[missyburd]

Yeah great thing the copy and paste button ent it :-P

That tripe I came out with is to do with treatment for HIV which when coinfected with malaria = baaaad. Meh stupid exams.

[joshmac]

Yeah great thing the copy and paste button ent it :-P

That tripe I came out with is to do with treatment for HIV which when coinfected with malaria = baaaad. Meh stupid exams.
Meh! Just goes to show how easy it is to convince some people if you use enough big, technical sounding words :lol:

Oh BTW I didn't use the the copy and paste button :smt019 ;)

[missyburd]

AAAAAAARGH! That is all. :(

[dizzyblonde]

GET RID OF THEM that is all;):eye:

[gruntygiggles]

He doesn't plan on letting the landlady and she would want to know seeing as him not being a student affects Council Tax.

Should we let the landlady know or is it too mean?

P.S. Really sorry to have ranted I know you lot don't really need to know about the tedious goings on in my life and there are more important things going on in the world to worry about, but it's really pi$$ing us off!


You said it yourself, life is too short to be worrying about this AND to worry about him. Student or not, he's an adult and he is fully capable of finding somewhere else to live when the landlady gives him notice WHICH SHE SHOULD!

Don't feel bad for him, he obviously cares nothing about you guys so he can be a grown up and sort himself out after he's gone. He is not your responsibility.

Call your landlady, tell her you are sending her a letter listing the complaints you have about him and let her know that he is no longer a student. Trust me, she'll want to know. Then write the letter, poilte and to the point and she'll give him notice.

Don't feel bad about ranting, it sounds like he is making your life in that house hell, so do what you can to get him out. I think it's a lesson he needs to learn!

[larigos]

wait till he is in room - place new lock on outside of his door - dont let him out ever again.

or....

wait till his totally wasted take him all of his crap outside and recreate his roomin the middle of a roundabout. make sure someones watching/taking photos for safety.

[custardbike]

AAAAAAARGH! That is all. :(

I read your first post and then flicked to the last page ... so I understand what it started with (messy dude), but woz happened to cause this outburst?? :eek: :shock:

[missyburd]

ESSAY AND LARGE RANT ALERT

Thing is right, as he's not a student anymore he went home a few weeks ago and got a job back home. Great, we were celebrating, didn't think he'd be coming back....then he came back 3 days ago. Sod's law, I'd just made the kitchen all clean and BOOM the moron and his gf have invaded once more.

In a few hours the kitchen was a $hit tip AGAIN, the surfaces are mucky, it was a hovel once more. I was woken up twice this morning by loud drum & bass, crappy thump thump crappiness. I get up and go for a shower only to find our toilet - which isn't the one he's meant to use as he has one on his floor...- hasn't been flushed, glorious concentrated pi$$, just the thing I want to start off my day with seeing :-( That ad the toilet roll disappears as a damn quick rate when he's about, we're going through 2 rolls a day, have to hide it in the cupboard now! Not to mention the sugar and milk he's used up without asking...

The lass I tend to eat most of my meals with (best mate at uni) and I have just got nicely adapted to a routine where we get the kitchen to ourselves at teatime, only to find we can't start cooking owt till half8 cos him and his gf are frying pork on the kitchen table...that's fine but then when we DO come to eat all their $hit is still on the sodding table and stuff all over the surfaces so we have to move it and clean it. So then I do some washing up, she dries up and I clean the surfaces. We eat, play a few card games, all is ok-ish, I'm still seething. Then they come back in while we're eating and start cooking again....I am about to go into the kitchen now and IF I FIND THOSE SURFACES ARE NOT CLEAN THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY.

I do apologize for the ranting, I just get so f**kin wound up, I can deal with him being inconsiderate but she has no excuse, it's not even her house! I wouldn't mind but she's a right unsociable character, never acknowledges us when we're in the kitchen together, never speaks to us, just makes you feel hostile, you know?

I just want to cry, I've got so much work to do and can't afford to keep wasting time cleaning the sodding kitchen just so I can cook my tea in peace and cleanliness :-( He's not got any uni now, so no work and yet he's robbing us of our sleep, making it harder for us to concentrate with his stupid music, messing up or eating patterns and now messing up the kitchen.

I just want him to go back home! It was a blissful 3 weeks without him :-(

[keith_d]

Sounds like time for a .org party. Do you reckon YC could plan a rideout starting and finishing at your place?? I'd imagine there's a few folks who'd be happy to help get the message across...

(Just make 'em promise not to hurt him too much.)

[dizzyblonde]

How many times do I have to tell you to get rid???????

Time to get hard girly, really hard.
IF you don't like it, do something about it. You aren't going to help your study at all if you keep skirting round this problem. A molehill turns into a mountain pretty quickly

In the mood I'm in at the moment I'd personally come and deal with it......he wouldn't come back after i finished with him ;-)

[jamesterror]

I'd confront them about it, tbh if its habbit which ****es everyone off then I'm sure they'd all back you up and he'd hopefully have consideration for the rest of you.

He sounds like somebody who's had somebody to run round him all of his life...

I'm staying at home for uni as of costs (i want a motorbike, after the weather today, then starring into a dealership with my mate today, im determind to get something sorted sooner than I expected), but I know I'd be somebody who was messy but at least have some consideration for other people.

[gruntygiggles]

ESSAY AND LARGE RANT ALERT

Thing is right, as he's not a student anymore he went home a few weeks ago and got a job back home. Great, we were celebrating, didn't think he'd be coming back....then he came back 3 days ago. Sod's law, I'd just made the kitchen all clean and BOOM the moron and his gf have invaded once more.

In a few hours the kitchen was a $hit tip AGAIN, the surfaces are mucky, it was a hovel once more. I was woken up twice this morning by loud drum & bass, crappy thump thump crappiness. I get up and go for a shower only to find our toilet - which isn't the one he's meant to use as he has one on his floor...- hasn't been flushed, glorious concentrated pi$$, just the thing I want to start off my day with seeing :-( That ad the toilet roll disappears as a damn quick rate when he's about, we're going through 2 rolls a day, have to hide it in the cupboard now! Not to mention the sugar and milk he's used up without asking...

The lass I tend to eat most of my meals with (best mate at uni) and I have just got nicely adapted to a routine where we get the kitchen to ourselves at teatime, only to find we can't start cooking owt till half8 cos him and his gf are frying pork on the kitchen table...that's fine but then when we DO come to eat all their $hit is still on the sodding table and stuff all over the surfaces so we have to move it and clean it. So then I do some washing up, she dries up and I clean the surfaces. We eat, play a few card games, all is ok-ish, I'm still seething. Then they come back in while we're eating and start cooking again....I am about to go into the kitchen now and IF I FIND THOSE SURFACES ARE NOT CLEAN THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY.

I do apologize for the ranting, I just get so f**kin wound up, I can deal with him being inconsiderate but she has no excuse, it's not even her house! I wouldn't mind but she's a right unsociable character, never acknowledges us when we're in the kitchen together, never speaks to us, just makes you feel hostile, you know?

I just want to cry, I've got so much work to do and can't afford to keep wasting time cleaning the sodding kitchen just so I can cook my tea in peace and cleanliness :-( He's not got any uni now, so no work and yet he's robbing us of our sleep, making it harder for us to concentrate with his stupid music, messing up or eating patterns and now messing up the kitchen.

I just want him to go back home! It was a blissful 3 weeks without him :-(


Ok.....being absolutely serious, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

If you can and only if there are other people in the house to look after you, scream all this at him. If he plays the music at stupid hours and volumes, call the police and call them every blinking time he does it. Make his life there a living hell while you're waiting for your landlady to get him out and if she stalls or is hesitant to do so.......think about this. You email her, therefore keeping a record of the communication and send a letter as well stating that this person is no longer a student. If she then fails to have him move out because he pays rent on time, make an anonymous phone call to your local council and tell them that you have a tenant there no longer a student and not paying council tax. Trust me, they will be all over him like a rash and if he's only staying because of the tax break.....he'll be out.

In the month since your original post, have you contacted the landlady and if so, what has she said?

[custardbike]

ESSAY AND LARGE RANT ALERT
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Sadly that is all part of the game in student digs. Its a shame and a ****ter no question, but you are not the first or last person to have to put up with this sort of stuff. Perhaps not much comfort, but there you go.

All you can do is give him an ultimatum, tell him to be more respectful or you and the rest of the house are going to work towards getting him evicted by the landlady.

Also, and its a pain I know, but keep all your own cooking and eating stuff in a box in your room. A bit of a annoyance, but at least its going to be clean when you want to use it. Cooking on a mucky cooker isn't the end of the world, eating off dirty plate that YOU have actually cleaned since last using is something else.

You are not going to change him, so just mitigate against some of the problem.

At the end of the day this is but a few years of your life, and its all part of the 'experience'. You will look back in 5 years time and have some great stories to tell about this ****** you used to live with ... it really annoying, but not the end of the world!! You will graduate and then move out!

[missyburd]

If you can and only if there are other people in the house to look after you, scream all this at him.
That was the plan if the kitchen wasn't as it should be just now, it's ok so I've grabbed my B&J's Phish Food icecream out the freezer and watched some comedy, have calmed down now, mates are great.

We're going to have a house meeting cos I know I'm not the only one to feel like this, gonna sort this out once and for all.

Nothing's been mentioned to the landlady, he hasn't been here for the past month so nothing's had to be said. She knows he's a prat, she's seen the state of the floor upstairs.

Sadly that is all part of the game in student digs. Its a shame and a ****ter no question, but you are not the first or last person to have to put up with this sort of stuff. Perhaps not much comfort, but there you go. I've been living in student digs for a nearly 3 years, most students I know have more sense than to **** off their housemates. He's not a bad person as I've mentioned before, he's a bit autistic too apparently, but he's just a to$$er when it comes to the simplest of things. I've bolloxed him before, I've left angry notes, I've dumped his manky crockery in his room, he just ognores and forgets, just part of his personality. Doesn't want to start rows or owt.

All you can do is give him an ultimatum, tell him to be more respectful or you and the rest of the house are going to work towards getting him evicted by the landlady. As above

[custardbike]

You have been very lucky if you haven't come across someone like this before!! ;)

Get him evicted, its your (as in all housemates) only long term solution, but in the meantime keep stuff in your room as I mentioned to keep a bit of sanity.

The landlady isn't going to want her place wrecked either ...

I don't know how much your rent is, but between 9 of you, you could almost say to the landlady that you will pay a bit extra each, she will get the same income, but only letting to 9 ... by the sounds of it you and the other housemates would happily trade the cost/consumption of a couple of pints a week to enable you to cover the extra rent and keep sane??? ... the land lady only cares about 2 things ... the rent and her asset ... you ensure she isn't going to lose any cash ... she'll kick him out in a flash!! ;)

[missyburd]

I don't know how much your rent is, but between 9 of you
Although the house has 10 bedrooms, it's actually 2 flats so we don't have much to do with the 5 below.

I have encountered tw4ts like this before, I have had words and they get the hint. This fella however doesn't take on board anything.

[custardbike]

Although the house has 10 bedrooms, it's actually 2 flats so we don't have much to do with the 5 below.

I have encountered tw4ts like this before, I have had words and they get the hint. This fella however doesn't take on board anything.

You have done the talking to him, its time to talk to the landlady, if you can find another person to move straight in, then she will listen, don't go to her just saying you want him out ....

In the meantime, have a nice hot curry and go take a dump on his bedsheets!! :smt038 :smt081

[missyburd]

Bit late for that now, only 3 months left of term. It's the rollicking he needs, the landlady won't be involved as yet, too risky for us, not just him.

Will update when had flat meeting lol.

[jamesterror]

Bit late for that now, only 3 months left of term. It's the rollicking he needs, the landlady won't be involved as yet, too risky for us, not just him.

Will update when had flat meeting lol.

Hopefully if you or someone in your flat has a word with him, he'll knock it off a bit and give you some peace for the last 3 months. I'm guessing its affecting your studying I couldn't put up with someone like that.

[dizzyblonde]

I can't believe you've let him get away with it for so long. Should have had action to rid yourself a long time ago

[gruntygiggles]

Put a bolt on the outside of the kitchen door and don't let him out until he's cleaned up....and done a good job!

[missyburd]

I can't believe you've let him get away with it for so long. Should have had action to rid yourself a long time ago
Lou I've said this a few times now, he went back home for a month so we didn't feel the need to take action. We're students, more important things to think about than sorting out this $hit. It was fine while he was away, quiet and clean, that's why it's just a bit of a shock trying to re-adjust to the situation :rolleyes:

[gruntygiggles]

On a more serious note, talk to the other three residents before the meeting and discuss what you are going to all say to him in the meeting so you can show a proper, organised united front and can go in knowing that you'll be supporting each other.

[missyburd]

On a more serious note, talk to the other three residents before the meeting and discuss what you are going to all say to him in the meeting so you can show a proper, organised united front and can go in knowing that you'll be supporting each other.
Indeed. Ta for the replies GG, you talk a lot of sense :-) (not that the rest of you don't of course :-P)

[dizzyblonde]

Put a bolt on the outside of the kitchen door and don't let him out until he's cleaned up....and done a good job!

Many years ago, in the first and last flat I shared, there was a lass that jus took the pee in many ways. I'd been away and my other flatmate told me what had gone on while I was away, which quite frankly was out of order. SO we took action........
The lass in question went out one day, and forgot her keys. Now without a key she couldn't get in the flat, but not only that to gain entry to the building she had to buzz the flat on the intercom. So me being me, answered the intercom when she buzzed it to be let in, and I had a 'nice' :smt091conversation with her over it. Needless to say, she didn't get in, she got the message very quickly, I switched it off, so she couldn't disturb us, she ended up staying out elsewhere, and by morning her bags were packed.

She came back for her things and never came back:smt098

[dizzyblonde]

Lou I've said this a few times now, he went back home for a month so we didn't feel the need to take action. We're students, more important things to think about than sorting out this $hit. It was fine while he was away, quiet and clean, that's why it's just a bit of a shock trying to re-adjust to the situation :rolleyes:

ok no need to shout, i wasn't on about the month hes been away, I'm on about before and letting him back after he'd fecked off for a month.
And yes you have more important stuff to deal with, but this sort of sh!t interferes with it....

[missyburd]

ok no need to shout, i wasn't on about the month hes been away, I'm on about before and letting him back after he'd fecked off for a month.
And yes you have more important stuff to deal with, but this sort of sh!t interferes with it....
lol no shouting involved, just highlighting the point :-P Letting him back isn't really our call, he has his key, we can't take it off him can we? Although I would like to get hold of it for a little while, oh could have so much fun #rubs hands with glee#


He needs to know that he's pi$$ing us all off. I so badly wanted to boll0ck him this evening in front of his gf, just so she knows where she stands and would hopefully encourage him to buck his ideas up. I didn't because I think she took something on board by the scowling I was doing while playing cards and the curt tones I was using when he spoke to me. I don't think she's stupid, and if she's shy then maybe by me scaring the **** out of her with a few harsh words is what's needed. She doesn't make an effort to get on with us so it's no skin off my nose whether she doesn't like me or is scared of me, she should know better. Besides which I'm northern so really that should be enough, don't think she's aware of that yet :smt077

[gruntygiggles]

It's a horrible situation.

Dizzyblonde.....well done on your actions with the door buzzer....CLASS!

My old flatmate used to have his girlfriend stay over ALL the time and they were SO LOUD having sex it was ridiculous. I told him I don;t know how many times to tell her to be quieter and I loved Graham to bits, top lad, but she was a realy pain in the backside. She acted like she owned the place, when in fact, Graham was lodging with me.

Anyway, I told Graham that anytime I was in, trying to sleep and she was squealing and screaming like Debbie from Dallas, I'd come and knock the door and start talking to them. Apparently at first she said she'd just ignore it, but after a 15 minute speach from me on the subject of bed mites, how they breed, how they live on the dead skin cells that we shed etc etc, she soon got the message and so did Graham. She tried to back track the next day by saying that she had no idea it annoyed it me so much and I just said, " Well, I either did that last night or told Graham to leave and despite the fact I can't stand you, I love him to bits so I thought I'd give you one last chance". After a while, we all got on fine!

MissYC, if you ever find yourself scowling or starting to get angry, just open your mouth and let rip. If you see him drop food on the table, get up and walk away, don't just shake your head........say, "Oi, you can clean that up before you go". No need to be nasty about it, just say it.
If he says no, find something of his to wipe it off with!

[missyburd]

.....say, "Oi, you can clean that up before you go". No need to be nasty about it, just say it.
If he says no, find something of his to wipe it off with!
I've done that too, and he'll do what I tell him at the time, but I know damn well that next time he does the same thing, he won't remember what I've said :rolleyes:

[Lozzo]

Beat the living crap out of him

[gruntygiggles]

I've done that too, and he'll do what I tell him at the time, but I know damn well that next time he does the same thing, he won't remember what I've said :rolleyes:

Sounds like child behaviour and if there's a possibility he may be autistic, there may be a reason behind his apparent ignorance that he actually can't help.

As much as I would want to just scream as I am sure you do...maybe, if he will clean when you tell him to, you just need to act like his mum for the next three months and keep on him to clean up. Don't get mad or anything, just make it a matter of fact thing and try not to get frustrated. At least that way, you'll get the dishes and kitchens cleaned and there's no need for anger to brew up. If he doesn't ever remember, he won't care.

[missyburd]

Beat the living crap out of him
He's a tall chap and I'd probably suffocate from his frizzy ginger mop of hair :shock: YC can do it :-P

[missyburd]

Sounds like child behaviour and if there's a possibility he may be autistic, there may be a reason behind his apparent ignorance that he actually can't help.

As much as I would want to just scream as I am sure you do...maybe, if he will clean when you tell him to, you just need to act like his mum for the next three months and keep on him to clean up. Don't get mad or anything, just make it a matter of fact thing and try not to get frustrated. At least that way, you'll get the dishes and kitchens cleaned and there's no need for anger to brew up. If he doesn't ever remember, he won't care.

I don't want to have to be his mum. I shouldn't have to be. I'm hoping his gf will do that for him.

Oh and it doesn't help that he is utterly shoite at washing up, just seems to dunk the stuff :rolleyes:

[gruntygiggles]

I don't want to have to be his mum. I shouldn't have to be. I'm hoping his gf will do that for him.

Oh and it doesn't help that he is utterly shoite at washing up, just seems to dunk the stuff :rolleyes:

If nothing works and you don't want to have to keep on at him, you're just going to have adhere to the old adage of, "put up or shut up", meant in the nicest possible way.

At the moment, you're getting all the stress and he's completely oblivious. I'm all out of advice for how to deal with him as it seems you've tried everything, nothing works and are just now fed up. No point in hoping his gf will do anything, if she doesn't have a problem with it, why should she?

If it's you and the other flatmates that have the problem, either you all need to do something or just, like I said, put up and shut up for the next three months.....it's not that long and in that time, just try and laugh it off so you don't suffer the stress and annoyance.

I feel for you MissYC.....I don't think I would able to cope, then again, I'm the kind of person that would give three chances to do it himself and after that, drag him to the kitchen and stand over him to make him do a good job until he learned his lesson. I just don't suffer fools anymore but hey ho!

[missyburd]

I feel for you MissYC.....I don't think I would able to cope, then again, I'm the kind of person that would give three chances to do it himself and after that, drag him to the kitchen and stand over him to make him do a good job until he learned his lesson. I just don't suffer fools anymore but hey ho!

I don't have the time nor the patience to do that. The washing up business I can sort of cope with, the music early in the morning not so much, I need and like my sleep, I do not like being rudely awakened, especially by crap music. And yes he's been repeatedly told to turn it down and no he doesn't understand. I think he forgets some of us have work to do. But yes I shall blow my top soon. I regret not doing it this eve.

Anyway, cheers for the advice and such, it is a irritating situation but it's my situation so I shall just have to deal with it in my own way.

Ta for listening and advising :eye:

[gruntygiggles]

I don't have the time nor the patience to do that. The washing up business I can sort of cope with, the music early in the morning not so much, I need and like my sleep, I do not like being rudely awakened, especially by crap music. And yes he's been repeatedly told to turn it down and no he doesn't understand. I think he forgets some of us have work to do. But yes I shall blow my top soon. I regret not doing it this eve.

Anyway, cheers for the advice and such, it is a irritating situation but it's my situation so I shall just have to deal with it in my own way.

Ta for listening and advising :eye:

When he plays his music too loud or in the night, just go to your fuse box and cut the power! Put a lock on it too......it's not like he'll tell the landlady if he's no longer a student!!!

You poor thing!

[missyburd]

When he plays his music too loud or in the night, just go to your fuse box and cut the power! Put a lock on it too......it's not like he'll tell the landlady if he's no longer a student!!!

You poor thing!

Lol. I may have to need to threaten him with the whole not being a student malarkey, might sink in then. But then it probably won't seeing as he's not got a right lot to stay for anyway! :rolleyes:

[gruntygiggles]

Lol. I may have to need to threaten him with the whole not being a student malarkey, might sink in then. But then it probably won't seeing as he's not got a right lot to stay for anyway! :rolleyes:

You and the other girls should start coming on to him in front of his gf......she'll get him out of there sharpish!!!

[Lozzo]

I don't have the time nor the patience to do that. The washing up business I can sort of cope with, the music early in the morning not so much, I need and like my sleep, I do not like being rudely awakened, especially by crap music. And yes he's been repeatedly told to turn it down and no he doesn't understand. I think he forgets some of us have work to do. But yes I shall blow my top soon. I regret not doing it this eve.

Anyway, cheers for the advice and such, it is a irritating situation but it's my situation so I shall just have to deal with it in my own way.

Ta for listening and advising :eye:

If someone repeatedly ignored my request for them to turn music down in the middle of the night then I'd be inclined to go to his room while that crap is pumping out and stick a firmly swung Alpinestars Motocross boot straight through each speaker, just before lobbing his hi-fi out of the window.

Show him you mean business, and start making his life very uncomfortable.

[keith_d]

If nothing else works get your hands on some dud fuses and replace the fuse in his stereo with a dud one every time he goes out.

(Note for Mr AH, you can blow a fuse by connecting it very briefly across the terminals of a bike battery!).

[missyburd]

You and the other girls should start coming on to him in front of his gf......she'll get him out of there sharpish!!!
Jus one other girl and 2 lads. One lad is very laid back and doesn't kick p a fuss about ANYTHING but I know the other lad is just as annoyed with this to$$pot.


Lozzo: Not being male, violence ain't my best quality and I don't want him getting into my room (I'm sure he could find a way) and repaying the favour.... I like to boll0ck people but throwing crap out windows ain't gonna help matters, although I'm liking the sabotage plan.

I reckon if we all make it official with a meeting and make it extrememly clear that we're not happy with the situation as it currently stands then he may take notice. If he is STILL a complete bellend after that then things will get nasty, very nasty.

[Nicky S]

kill him :P

[missyburd]

kill him :P
Yes that would solve everything, why did I not think of that before! Then not only would I feel extremely guilty and not be able to sleep at all but I would be convicted and not actually finish my degree, a fabulous idea! :rolleyes::p:D

[Nicky S]

lol well at least ur kitchen would be clean :P

[ophic]

Beat the living crap out of him
+1

Sometimes the "right" way just isn't effective.