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is kate coming this saturday?
joshmac
25-01-09, 01:42 PM
Where to?
(Just to keep it on topic, will she be riding Ebony hard all the way? :razz: hehe)
chris8886
25-01-09, 01:55 PM
Where to?
(Just to keep it on topic, will she be riding Ebony hard all the way? :razz: hehe)
you're cheeky bugger mac, but i did nearly PSML there though!
joshmac
25-01-09, 01:57 PM
you're cheeky bugger mac, but i did nearly PSML there though!
:lol: No idea why that'd happen :p My comment was completely innocent, no innuendo in sight :-dd:rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
25-01-09, 01:58 PM
That has caused me to cough most of a cuppa all over the sodding place. Git.
joshmac
25-01-09, 01:59 PM
Meh, she'll have to slow down at some point, otherwise Ebony will empty it's load prematurely... petrol of course ;)
chris8886
25-01-09, 02:03 PM
Meh, she'll have to slow down at some point, otherwise Ebony will empty it's load prematurely... petrol of course ;)
i'm glad i'm not drinking tea like yorkie!!
joshmac
25-01-09, 02:04 PM
:razz: Hehe. It should work with coffee too
phil24_7
25-01-09, 02:25 PM
Back on topic, quick, before Ape man shuts us down!!
No, she will not be attending out secret little, south-west, half-day ride. We're concentrating on getting her competent on the sv and dealing with other traffic before we unleash her on a ride-out. We also don't get much time to get her practising so it'll take a little longer.
I recon she'll need tax, mot and insurance by April! (That's Ebony needing tax and mot and Kate needing insurance!!)
Kate Moss
25-01-09, 02:26 PM
It was a dissaster
phil24_7
25-01-09, 02:27 PM
It wasn't that bad, you just lost your PMA cuz your a little under the weather!
chris8886
25-01-09, 02:28 PM
It was a dissaster
i can't be that bad, what actually happened?
It wasn't that bad, you just lost your PMA cuz your a little under the weather!
PMA?
as long as you did not fall off, hurt yourself or trash the bike
it was not dissaster............. dont give up
phil24_7
25-01-09, 02:34 PM
PMA - Positive Mental Attitude
She just didn't truly believe she could do it today, something in her head kept saying she couldn't do it so she couldn't even manage to get a u-turn done.
It wasn't bad but I didn't feel she was in the right frame of mind to go at any real speed, therefore what I had planned, didn't happen.
It's ok though, it'll be done the next time we get a chance to play on Ebony.
She just didn't truly believe she could do it today, something in her head kept saying she couldn't do it so she couldn't even manage to get a u-turn done.
maybe you should have not gone out? if you are not in the right mood,
:o
phil24_7
25-01-09, 02:40 PM
Didn't know this until she started ride. Believe me, I don't take any risks, hence I didn't allow her to go faster or ride around the main road on the industrial estate like she wanted to!
Didn't know this until she started ride. Believe me, I don't take any risks, hence I didn't allow her to go faster or ride around the main road on the industrial estate like she wanted to!
oh i see.
nevermind, still got a few months before the nice weather to pass
fizzwheel
25-01-09, 02:46 PM
PMA - Positive Mental Attitude
Its all about that.
Do or do not there is no try... or
Dont think you can, know you can.
Keep going when it gets hard and dont give up, if you tell yourself you cant do it before you even start, you will fail. Thinking postively, and remember what your instructor told you when you were having to lessons and listen to Phil and you'll get through it.
You're not rubbish.
phil24_7
25-01-09, 02:52 PM
+1 fizz.
still got a few months before the nice weather to pass
She has passed
Its all about that.
Do or do not there is no try... or
Dont think you can, know you can.
Keep going when it gets hard and dont give up, if you tell yourself you cant do it before you even start, you will fail. Thinking postively, and remember what your instructor told you when you were having to lessons and listen to Phil and you'll get through it.
You're not rubbish.
Strong is the fear of failing. Mind what you have learned. Save you it can.
PMA - Positive Mental Attitude
She just didn't truly believe she could do it today, something in her head kept saying she couldn't do it so she couldn't even manage to get a u-turn done.
It wasn't bad but I didn't feel she was in the right frame of mind to go at any real speed, therefore what I had planned, didn't happen.
It's ok though, it'll be done the next time we get a chance to play on Ebony.
U-turns are not the be all and end all of motorcycling. To be perfectly honest I hate doing them and I've been riding 30 odd years. Getting a U-turn nailed is something you do for the benefit of a DSA examiner, and from the moment he hands over a pass certificate just ignore the fact they have ever existed.
I'd still rather get off my bike and push it to where I need it to be than do a U-turn that may land me and the bike on tarmac - they really aren't a viable manouver in normal day to day use unless the road is easily wide enough to comfortable acheive them.
Kate, I'm sure you're doing fine, just keep the PMA and everything will work out right. Practice does make perfect.
Kate Moss
25-01-09, 04:07 PM
Think Phil just wants me to feel comphy with the control of the bike, i just wanna zoom off into the sunset!!!
joshmac
25-01-09, 04:40 PM
PMA - Positive Mental Attitude
She just didn't truly believe she could do it today, something in her head kept saying she couldn't do it so she couldn't even manage to get a u-turn done.
It wasn't bad but I didn't feel she was in the right frame of mind to go at any real speed, therefore what I had planned, didn't happen.
It's ok though, it'll be done the next time we get a chance to play on Ebony.
Must......resit......comment :lol:
phil24_7
25-01-09, 04:47 PM
She has passed
Hovis means, a little time of bad weather to pass, before good weather comes, so she can go out for proper rides!
Strong is the fear of failing. Mind what you have learned. Save you it can.
Not too much fear of falling as she knows the bike can be fixed and at slow sped she'll only end up with a couple bruises at most!
U-turns are not the be all and end all of motorcycling. To be perfectly honest I hate doing them and I've been riding 30 odd years. Getting a U-turn nailed is something you do for the benefit of a DSA examiner, and from the moment he hands over a pass certificate just ignore the fact they have ever existed.
I'd still rather get off my bike and push it to where I need it to be than do a U-turn that may land me and the bike on tarmac - they really aren't a viable manouver in normal day to day use unless the road is easily wide enough to comfortable acheive them.
Kate, I'm sure you're doing fine, just keep the PMA and everything will work out right. Practice does make perfect.
Not saying u-turns are the be-all and end-all, but if she can control a bike when it's going slow (slow control and u-turns) then she'll be better equipped to control a bike whilst it's moving properly.
The more comfortable she is on the bike, the less she'll have to concentrate on when she's out riding properly.
I want her to be 100% comfortable on the bike and 100% comfortable out on the road on her 125 before she is let loose on the open roads on the sv. This will enable her to concentrate on the unpredictability of the other road users!
Oh, and don't think she has any probs riding cuz she doesn't, what's difficult is convincing her that she is a more than competant rider!
Regards
phil24_7
25-01-09, 04:48 PM
Think Phil just wants me to feel comphy with the control of the bike, i just wanna zoom off into the sunset!!!
Correct!!
Must......resit......comment :lol:
That's not like you!!;)
fizzwheel
25-01-09, 06:06 PM
I want her to be 100% comfortable on the bike and 100% comfortable out on the road on her 125 before she is let loose on the open roads on the sv. This will enable her to concentrate on the unpredictability of the other road users!
I know where you're coming from but...
Why not let her take the SV out on some quiet roads where there wont be much traffic and let her get on with it, maybe do some slow speed stuff as well and mix it up a little bit. I found the bigger bikes much easier to ride once than the 125 was I did my CBT on.
I know what you mean about the slow speed stuff though, but might do her confidence some good to get out on a quiet B road as well. Some things like going to fast etc etc you have to learn for yourself :D;)
Dont mean to talk out of turn, just thought I'd offer my thoughts.
phil24_7
25-01-09, 07:06 PM
No that's cool fizz, confidence is the main issue, slow control is to show her that she can control the "big bike", once she "knows" she can do it we can work on some faster stuff. I know she's more than competent enough to ride the SV, but she needs to realise that too!
Kate Moss
25-01-09, 07:10 PM
I am just under the weather thats all! Next time il be better!!!!
Balky001
25-01-09, 07:10 PM
I must admit, I found the slow techinical stuff hard to concentrate on for too long and if it didn't go great it spoiled the day. Mixing it up with the simpler but more rewarding pleasures (straight lines ;-) ) made it more fun and gave you lots of positives form the day. I agree though Phil and Kate, the slow control is key to begin with.
joshmac
25-01-09, 07:13 PM
I am just under the weather thats all! Next time il be better!!!!
Yeah, you'll be great!
You did well last time, so you'll do even better next time :smt045
Am I missing something here? Kate, you have passed your test? If so, go out on your own. No pressure of having anyone analysing your riding. You only have to prove your own riding to yourself. Get some confidence without any pressure. Then go out and get some advice if you feel you need it.
Or am I just being stupid?
Dave20046
25-01-09, 07:18 PM
Am I missing something here? Kate, you have passed your test? If so, go out on your own. No pressure of having anyone analysing your riding. You only have to prove your own riding to yourself. Get some confidence without any pressure. Then go out and get some advice if you feel you need it.
Or am I just being stupid?
What works for some people doesn't work for others I suppose.
Kate Moss
25-01-09, 07:24 PM
I passed on a 125, I am happy to go out riding on my 125 alone no problem. I am getting used to the weight of the 650 and gaining some confidence.
I fell of a 500 twice during my lessons (hense doing it on the 125 in the end) and i think that is still lodged in my head when I ride the sv. Sometimes I forget it and just ride and other times my brain says "you can't do this...remember!"
It was only my second time on the sv so no harm done, plenty of time to get it right!
Kate keep at it hun you'll be fine you are not well at the moment you need to get rid of the cold/flu
joshmac
25-01-09, 07:44 PM
Kate keep at it hun you'll be fine you are not well at the moment you need to get rid of the cold/flu
+1 :)
I passed on a 125, I am happy to go out riding on my 125 alone no problem. I am getting used to the weight of the 650 and gaining some confidence.
I fell of a 500 twice during my lessons (hense doing it on the 125 in the end) and i think that is still lodged in my head when I ride the sv. Sometimes I forget it and just ride and other times my brain says "you can't do this...remember!"
It was only my second time on the sv so no harm done, plenty of time to get it right!
I see. If it is the only the weight thing which is the problem. Why do you not go up in steps? A 250 has considerable more weight that a 125 but is still nice and light. I believe there is another female rider who passed on a 125 and then found the SV to heavy for her so rides a 250 at the moment. Something to consider maybe?
joshmac
25-01-09, 07:48 PM
I see. If it is the only the weight thing which is the problem. Why do you not go up in steps? A 250 has considerable more weight that a 125 but is still nice and light. I believe there is another female rider who passed on a 125 and then found the SV to heavy for her so rides a 250 at the moment. Something to consider maybe?
Yeah that was Foxy.
I s'pose we'd still talk to ya' if you got a 250 :mrgreen:;)
Dave20046
25-01-09, 07:48 PM
I see. If it is the only the weight thing which is the problem. Why do you not go up in steps? A 250 has considerable more weight that a 125 but is still nice and light. I believe there is another female rider who passed on a 125 and then found the SV to heavy for her so rides a 250 at the moment. Something to consider maybe?
Yep foxy in leather has a baby ninja I think (:smt027)
shonadoll
25-01-09, 07:51 PM
I passed on my virago 125, then straight onto my VN900 which was 249kgs - mistake!
I find the sv great in comparison, really light, only at low speeds is weight in issue, ormoving it about. The best thing for me personally was going out and doing miles, but like anyone you will have off days, especially if you are feeling under the weather.
Just remember even bikers that have been riding for years have crap days, they are no different. Sounds like you are doing great anyway- do you have any female friends with bikes? Quite helpful maybe to see how they managed with the extra weight.
Kate Moss
25-01-09, 07:54 PM
Im determined to ride this sv not matter what the weight!!! I CAN do it!!!
joshmac
25-01-09, 07:57 PM
Im determined to ride this sv not matter what the weight!!! I CAN do it!!!
:cheers: Go you!! :p
Kate Moss
25-01-09, 07:58 PM
I've had a beer, im more confident now!!!
*disclaimer - I am NOT going for a ride now! *
rictus01
25-01-09, 07:59 PM
My thoughts... it's all experiance, you went out not feeling 100% and a lesson was learnt, it all adds up, stick to it, knowing when not to ride is as (if not more) important than the other way round.
Miles under the wheels and time in the saddle are both your friends, keep it up.
Cheers Mark.
joshmac
25-01-09, 07:59 PM
I've had a beer, im more confident now!!!
*disclaimer - I am NOT going for a ride now! *
Good call. Would hate for something bad to happen :kiss:
Dave20046
25-01-09, 08:04 PM
Just remember even bikers that have been riding for years have crap (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff246/dave20046/sv/lid.jpg) days (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff246/dave20046/sv/S3700013-1.jpg),
But we try and avoid them :mrgreen:
joshmac
25-01-09, 08:05 PM
Riding for years :razz:
Dave20046
25-01-09, 08:14 PM
Riding for years :razz:
2 years is more than one year :D
joshmac
25-01-09, 08:19 PM
2 years is more than one year :D
Since when? :smt104 ;)
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