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Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 01:39 PM

Right, my Astra will be three this April and as such, I am starting to think about new wheels. This time, I have decided I am not buying brand new (only bought Astra new as I got a deal with Vauxhall which saw me get a fair whack of money off) and I have two cars in mind that I REALLY like.

Choices are:

BMW 1 series 118d M Sport

or

Volkswagen Golf Mk5 2.0 GT TDI.

So I am going to put up a poll and then you lot can help me decide. Would be appreciated if you also gave me a reason for your decision!

Thank you please!!

dirtydog

31-12-10, 01:42 PM

I'd get the golf without a second thought

danf1234

31-12-10, 01:44 PM

Golf.

Treacle

31-12-10, 01:44 PM

Golf! Golf! Golf!

You know it makes sense Nic. :smt023

Just a thought, how about the Seat Leon fr?

beabert

31-12-10, 01:45 PM

Golf is faster

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 01:49 PM

Yep, not seeing many reasons so far guys!!

Treacle, I don't like the shape of the Leon. Never have. I had an Ibiza before and they are nice cars but although made by Volkswagen now, they don't have the same finish, quite cheapy inside I felt.

fizzwheel

31-12-10, 01:54 PM

Golf

Mainly because I dont like BMW's I especially dislike the 1 series as having driven a couple of them. I though they werent very nice to drive or sit in.

I dont know what they are like now, but I'd have thought, that the Golf will hold its value a little better than the BMW and also it'll cost less to service to.

Specialone

31-12-10, 01:57 PM

I'd get the golf without a second thought

+1.
Ive got mk5 tdi and its a great car, its only the 115hp but goes pretty well so im sure the extra power would make it much better.
I average well over 40+mpg and i dont use mine for commuting so its all small town trips and ive got a heavy right foot.
Also, the golf will be better in the snow and ice cos beemers are notoriously bad in the snow.

MisterTommyH

31-12-10, 01:57 PM

+1 on the Leon Call. They're ace and everythings is as standard, not an optional extra. But if you don't like them, then I'd go for the Golf.

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:00 PM

I'm certainly swinging towards the Golf because of the practicalities. The only reason I want a beemer is because I really like the look of the 1 series but that's not a reason to buy a car!

I am looking at my local Volkswagen dealership and they currently have a 55 plate Golf 2.0 GTi with all the extras, sat nav, cruise control, winter pack, protection pack, with only 26000 miles on the clock for £13k....not a bad price I'm thinking!

stewie

31-12-10, 02:00 PM

The Golf's been around for years and is pretty well established from a good company with a solid rep for reliabiity, BMW ? I used to work for them years ago, decent enough car but not as good as they would have you beleive.

fizzwheel

31-12-10, 02:09 PM

I am looking at my local Volkswagen dealership and they currently have a 55 plate Golf 2.0 GTi with all the extras, sat nav, cruise control, winter pack, protection pack, with only 26000 miles on the clock for £13k....not a bad price I'm thinking!

How does a similarly spec'd 1 series compare price wise ? If you are spending that much money go get a test drive in both of them, have a sit in them etc etc.

Teejayexc

31-12-10, 02:10 PM

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:12 PM

Biggest problem I am seeing whilst looking at the BMW's is that they all have upwards of 100k on the clock and they clearly don't hold their money as well as the Golf....

I've driven a 1series before, certainly didn't dislike it. Might go and see if I can get a test drive of the GTi, even though it's petrol and I wanted diesel.......will have to see what the consumption is like.

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:12 PM

Are you married ? :smt060

LOL! No! An if I was, it'd still be MY car....!

Teejayexc

31-12-10, 02:14 PM

LOL! No! An if I was, it'd still be MY car....!

The cars yours, I just wanna get to know someone with 13k to blow :p

B1k3R

31-12-10, 02:19 PM

Golf.

The BM is just a German ford hiked up by people who think owning one means something. Out of the two I would say Golf but have a quick look at an A class Merc. Not too expensive and much better than a BM.

hongman

31-12-10, 02:21 PM

MBK, I'll give you my opinion as I have driven the BMW 118D M Sport since Feb this year, brand new. I only Golf I have driven is a 03 plate for about a week.

+'s

Handles beautifully, so well balanced!
Comfortable being ragged the nuts off or pooting about
Build - better than any car I have owned
Dry/Wet Grip - Did I mention it handles soooooooo lovely.
Engine is sweet as, but then again it is brand new.
Interioir is easily cleaned, materials are well made.

-'s

Runflats - cost a farking bomb and most places will not repair if you get a puncture anywhere in the tyre
Servicing - if you want to main dealer it, expect £180 for an oil service! Although BMW Independant Garages will see you paying half that
Small - If you plan on carrying more than 2 people a lot of the time, good luck. I carry 4 (2 adults, 2 kids in child seats) and its a real aqueeze
Stock system - A3 was better. I have the BMW Professional Head Unit and it's OK til you crank it up, then the sound quality dimishes. Its not even that loud.

+/-

MPG - Expect 45+ driving completely within legal limits and sedately, or upper 30's driving more spiritedly. I'm sitting on 42.8 over 18,000 miles.
Variable Servicing limit - supposedly instead of set limits, it will tell you which servicing bits need doing dependant on how you drive it. Good if you are a sedate driver.
Rear wheel drive - I much prefer RWD in the dry/wet, but as soon as it touches ice/snow, forget it. Really. I got stuck in places that I saw crappy old 20yr old FWD's get past me on with no trouble, lol.
Dual zone climate control - sounded great when I bought it, but in reality is never used and I wouldnt miss it.

All in all, I find it a great car when I use it for work, but when I have to use it for family trips it does annoy the hell out of me.

Hope this helps. Some of my review wont be relevant if you are buying 2nd hand as it would depend on the mileage/optional extras you get with it.

Good luck

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:21 PM

I HATE Mercs...but I'll have a look..

Stuuk1

31-12-10, 02:22 PM

I'd say the golf, I've driven that exact car and It's lovely to drive, not the fastest car in the world but has some poke.

The BMW... when the snow comes all you can do is look at it really.

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:23 PM

Thanks Hongman, just the sort of thing I am looking for!

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:25 PM

The BMW... when the snow comes all you can do is look at it really.

See that's the biggest thing that bothers me about the BMW as I live on a really steep hill and I NEED to be able to get to work 27 miles away so if it doesn't do snow and we are gonna keep having winters with plenty snow....it might not be the best option for me.

kwak zzr

31-12-10, 02:27 PM

went in a mates golf GT TDI a few weeks ago 07 plate and was blown away with how good it was! id swap my BMW anyday for one!

christopher

31-12-10, 02:30 PM

Have you thought about the VW Jetta MKV? Admittedly if you don't like saloons it's an instant no go. But it's basically a Golf MKV with a mahoosive boot.

I have the 2.0 TDI Sport DSG, 2007 on a 57 plate bought 2 years ago this January... and it cost a few thousand pounds less than the 55 plate Golf you're looking at.

edit: didn't realise the Golf was a GTI not a GT TDI

hongman

31-12-10, 02:32 PM

Snow thing goes for all RWD's really. If you want to conquer snow, get a 4WD ;) Oh and I dont know if its just the shape of the BMW, but it seems like it gets dirty SO quickly! Especially the back.

I'm pointing out all the bad things but it really is a nice car. If I didnt have kids I wouldnt be moaning nearly as much about it.

In hindsight, for me, I should have either got the 3 series for more space or another (bigger) car completely, with less of a badge cost.

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:33 PM

B1k3R

31-12-10, 02:36 PM

I HATE Mercs...but I'll have a look..

Strike it off your list then. You need to be happy with the new shiney toy.

TBH I hate BM's. The drivers always want to try and bully other traffic. They never seem to indicate as I guess that everyone else should know where they are going. They don't use their lights in bad weather.............. because they don't have to........................... the list goes on. But just my opinion and a lifetime of riding and driving.

AndyBrad

31-12-10, 02:40 PM

mums got a new golf. its bloody fantastic! and its only a 1,6

Treacle

31-12-10, 02:41 PM

I would try and stay with the tdi instead of the fsi. My boss has had his mk5 gt tdi 140 for about 6 yrs now, its done about 110k and its still tight as a drum and has bags and bags of torque and has never let him down. But like all the vag tdi engines there all bomb proof. I havent really had that many dealings with the 2l tfsi engines but the one's that i have seem to be a bit troublesome. As Viney has mentioned before the bmw 1 series looks a bit like an orthopaedics shoe lol. And it doesnt help with a ride that is rock solid and the engine which isnt as good as the tdi's by a long way.

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:42 PM

To be fair, my Astra is a cracking car, 1.9tdi and it's cracking! Handles well and isn't slow (ask GG and Stretchie, they love it) but I just seem to have developed itchy feet, which normally happens a lot quicker with cars for me, and I'm just itching to drive something different.

hongman

31-12-10, 02:44 PM

They don't use their lights in bad weather.............. because they don't have to...........................

Set the light dial to "A", and let the car decide when they need to come on :D

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:44 PM

Ach, to hell with it, I'll just go an buy a Mk4 R32 (car I always wanted!) LOL!

hongman

31-12-10, 02:45 PM

Mmm. Or a Focus RS. Mmm.

Viney

31-12-10, 02:45 PM

Golf. Scoobs has one of those BMW Orthopedic shoe things and thats a good enough reason not to buy one.

toxic

31-12-10, 02:47 PM

The Golf. Nuff said.

I drove a 1 series when they first came out and after having had a 3 series I was really disappointed by how remote it was and how cramped the interior was.

Buy a car, not a badge.

-Ralph-

31-12-10, 02:48 PM

My 2p.

The BMW has the badge Kudos, the Golf doesn't. Depends if that's important to you.

The BMW looks better and better to drive dynamically than the front wheel drive golf. The Golf is not a bad looker though and could be prettier than the BMW depending on your taste, and dynamically there is nothing particularly wrong with the Golf.

Golf is much better build quality and reliability, cheaper to buy and holds residual much better and can be driven in the snow that Scotland is now getting year on year.

Volkswagen dealers value your custom much more than BMW who only give a s**t if you own 5 series or above. When you have a long list of people waiting for delivery of their next BMW, why would they care if you decided never to buy another?

My experience of BMW is not good, to the point that I'd be very cautious about buying another. My stepfather has had VW or Audi his entire life apart from a few years with a Honda. His experience is almost untainted apart from a failed auto gearbox in a 10 yr old Audi 100 that had 220k miles on the clock.

I voted Golf.

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 02:48 PM

Buy a car, not a badge.

:rolleyes:

Cheers for that piece of advice!!!

31-12-10, 02:51 PM

The BMW looks better...

No way!!!

The BMW looks like a hearse. I always expect to see a coffin in back.

Get the Golf.

Bri w

31-12-10, 02:52 PM

I voted Golf. Eldest son has the Beemer 118d, and its a lovely car but it has been useless in the snow. Son number 3 got off the drive no bother in his Golf. Number 1 couldn't even budge his, typical rear wheel drive, and when he wasfinally pushed off the drive he hit the kerb 3 times just getting off the estate.

Lovely car but useless in bad weather.

Treacle

31-12-10, 02:55 PM

I love R32's but not as much as I love these.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/Mattkeall/19e8_1.jpg

B1k3R

31-12-10, 02:56 PM

Set the light dial to "A", and let the car decide when they need to come on :D

I have one of those but only use it in France where there are a series of tunnels and lights are compulsory. Also auto wipers and engine switch off and re-start at lights.

Viney

31-12-10, 02:56 PM

My 2p.

The BMW has the badge Kudos, the Golf doesn't. Depends if that's important to you.

The BMW looks better and better to drive dynamically than the front wheel drive golf. The Golf is not a bad looker though and could be prettier than the BMW depending on your taste, and dynamically there is nothing particularly wrong with the Golf.

Golf is much better build quality and reliability, cheaper to buy and holds residual much better and can be driven in the snow that Scotland is now getting year on year.

Volkswagen dealers value your custom much more than BMW who only give a s**t if you own 5 series or above. When you have a long list of people waiting for delivery of their next BMW, why would they care if you decided never to buy another?

I voted Golf.
Bage kudos. VW against BMW. Both hold thier own imho. The one thing that the Beemer has that the golf hasnt is RWD. Id have the BM for that and that only. Everything else, id go for a golf.

As for the dealer support. I have had experience on both sides and in all honesty, the BMW service was better and that wasnt even for my own car. Aftersales on all brands is poor imho.

I would have the golf because its a great car that will do everything that you ask of it. It doesnt look dated. It is a little dull in the dynamics, but in the real world, thats nothing. The Beemer is good for drifting though ;)

Nic, get the Golf R20 faster than the old heavy R32

MisterTommyH

31-12-10, 02:57 PM

I love R32's but not as much as I love these.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/Mattkeall/19e8_1.jpg

MMMmmm

-Ralph-

31-12-10, 03:02 PM

Ach, to hell with it, I'll just go an buy a Mk4 R32 (car I always wanted!) LOL!

Not great in snow either by the way, they respond extremely eagerly to tiny throttle inputs and have mahoosive tyres. Lack of traction amplifies this tenfold. If ever a car needed switchable fuel maps and throttle response like a Gixxer, this is it.

Bibio

31-12-10, 03:04 PM

keep the astra and save yourself some dosh. besides your bike is for fun the car is for going from a2b and shopping.

svdemon

31-12-10, 03:06 PM

Golf V6 4 motion!

toxic

31-12-10, 03:06 PM

Cheers for that piece of advice!!!

i am always happy to help :D

Holdup

31-12-10, 03:06 PM

Didnt see this before i commented on facebook

Golf i say

I love R32's but not as much as I love these.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/Mattkeall/19e8_1.jpg

Swap?

:D

andrewsmith

31-12-10, 03:12 PM

MBK I'm with Biblo

If its the A2B keep the astra or get a Fabia (a golf for mean people)

hongman

31-12-10, 03:14 PM

The Beemer is good for drifting though ;)

I'll never forget the first time I turned off the Traction Control in the wet :D

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 03:20 PM

Nah, no way I am buying a Fabia!

I like having a nice car, I drive much better than I ride and I also get a lot of enjoyment from my car so it's much more than an A2B thing really.

dirtydog

31-12-10, 04:31 PM

Yep, not seeing many reasons so far guys!!

You never said younwanted reasons :rolleyes:;)

I'd go for the golf because i just prefer the look of it and dont particularly like BMWs. Was given a 3 series diesel with the M Sport pack on it as a courtesy car while the mondeo was being repaired and I just didnt rate it at all, was glad to get my mondeo back!
Plus I almost bought an older golf GT Tdi last year but got a Focus ST170 in the end

Bluepete

31-12-10, 04:43 PM

Gold, 'cos when it snows, you'll still be able to get around!

Plus, you're not a hairdresser!

Pete ;)

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 04:56 PM

You never said younwanted reasons :rolleyes:;)

I'd go for the golf because i just prefer the look of it and dont particularly like BMWs. Was given a 3 series diesel with the M Sport pack on it as a courtesy car while the mondeo was being repaired and I just didnt rate it at all, was glad to get my mondeo back!
Plus I almost bought an older golf GT Tdi last year but got a Focus ST170 in the end

Yes I did!!!!

Right, my Astra will be three this April and as such, I am starting to think about new wheels. This time, I have decided I am not buying brand new (only bought Astra new as I got a deal with Vauxhall which saw me get a fair whack of money off) and I have two cars in mind that I REALLY like.

Choices are:

BMW 1 series 118d M Sport

or

Volkswagen Golf Mk5 2.0 GT TDI.

So I am going to put up a poll and then you lot can help me decide. Would be appreciated if you also gave me a reason for your decision!

Thank you please!!

So there!!!!;)

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 04:56 PM

Gold, 'cos when it snows, you'll still be able to get around!

Plus, you're not a hairdresser!

Pete ;)

Is a gold a golf?? lol!

This is true, I am not a hairdresser....!:stupid:

hardhat_harry

31-12-10, 04:59 PM

I have spent plenty of time this year pushing BMW's and Audi's off the estate in the snow. I'd get the Leon is just looks so much better

-Ralph-

31-12-10, 05:01 PM

The Fabia is a poor man's Polo, not a poor man's Golf.

MisterTommyH

31-12-10, 05:38 PM

Fabia = Ibiza = Polo
Octavia = Leon = Golf = A3

Littlepeahead

31-12-10, 05:43 PM

I love my old Beemer, it's a W reg but soooo comfy. And memory seats are a godsend when your husband is a foot taller than you. But it is a 2.8l 7 series! My perfect little runaround to pop down the shops and drive Mr LPH and all his mates to the pub.

What you really need is the Seat but to have Treacle drive you around - that works for me.

31-12-10, 06:20 PM

This is true, I am not a hairdresser....!:stupid:

Correct. Police officers do not drive hearses. The Golf is really sweet. The Beemer is one seriously ugly vehicle. And it has dead people in back.

L3nny

31-12-10, 06:34 PM

Not the same models but Mr Clarkson is happy to help

MXyD1SGaiiE

-Ralph-

31-12-10, 06:49 PM

Correct. Police officers do not drive hearses. The Golf is really sweet. The Beemer is one seriously ugly vehicle. And it has dead people in back.

You're just getting old and frumpy ;)

31-12-10, 06:50 PM

You're just getting old and frumpy ;)

Point of order milord!!!!!!!

Old, yes. Frumpy, no - I ride a bike FFS!!!!

-Ralph-

31-12-10, 06:52 PM

Point of order milord!!!!!!!

Old, yes. Frumpy, no - I ride a bike FFS!!!!

But you're selling the sexy model, to buy the old man's one ;)

31-12-10, 06:54 PM

I'm not engaged. Just flirting;)

Bluepete

31-12-10, 06:57 PM

I just thought I would add this to the discussion...

_6A2rYSdluw

No reason, just to make you smile!

Pete ;)

Milky Bar Kid

31-12-10, 07:20 PM

Loving this thread guys! Thanks!

Dave20046

31-12-10, 07:23 PM

!gloF

ging6996

31-12-10, 07:28 PM

prefer golfs to leons. seats are to bland on inside.

and the BM 1 series is the poor mans BM that carnt have a proper 1. so golf all the way.

isnt the gt tdi 180brake. wat about the passat highline i nearly got one. the boot is massive.

graham

31-12-10, 07:43 PM

Haven't you bought the ****ing thing yet

Talk about indecisive:rolleyes:

ging6996

31-12-10, 07:59 PM

that video is well good. americans eh.
graham

Lozzo

01-01-11, 02:57 AM

Golf V6 4 motion!

I have the chance to buy a really clean and tidy 52 plate V6 4 Motion for £3000. It's a 2 owner FDSH car with 75K miles in dark metallic blue with leather interior.

It's about the only car I'd consider selling my 3 series for right now, unless a cheap '02 or newer 325Ci or 330Ci comes along

Milky Bar Kid

01-01-11, 02:45 PM

Do it Loz!!

malks

01-01-11, 03:45 PM

something to consider with the 1 series is stop/start engine thing.now I know it's meant to be better for the environment and all that, but it's really annoying. nothing worse than putting it into neutral and the car engine cutting out. I does work and will start up intently when u need it, but I just found it that annoying I wouldn't buy the car solely for that reason!

love the mk5 golf. the gt tdi is a great car. great engine, plenty of power etc. it's gonna be way better in the snow than the bmw. I'd just go get a test drive in both and are what u think.

ps please do not buy your bmw from douglas park dealership in Glasgow! I detest that garage and the manager! had very bad service from them.

munkygunn182

01-01-11, 03:56 PM

Gotta be the golf. My only reasons being that I travel the length and breadth of Scotland every weekend for work, if theres any snow on the road at all, it's always a bmw binned at the side of the road. Equally, this winter so far i've only towed a handful of vehicles out of my work, 1 x lorry, 1 x bmw.

We've got a worker who drives the car you're looking at, she suggests its twitchy even in heavy rain, I don't know the truth to that, but thats certainly what she says!

keith_d

01-01-11, 04:42 PM

Bluefish

01-01-11, 04:48 PM

If the choice is only between those two then as is obviouse the golf wins, personally i'd have a proper car = bigger, you can get a lot newer 2010 or 2009 with half as many miles, bigger engine faster, and a lot better looking imo. Of those two one is plain ugly and the other is pretty bland, how about a Honda civic type r, ther'e in the same class, girls car, still i'm a bloke, bigger is always better, mebe it's cos you can't reverse park, and so need a small car, hth ;)

hongman

01-01-11, 05:16 PM

Parking sensors on the BM ;)

The Stop/Start thing takes a bit to get used to, and the first time it fires up by itself without you doing anything is super freaky. But I'm used to it now, dont mind it at all.

Apparently (cant remember the source) as long as it stays OFF for at least 4s before firing back up, it's saved you some fuel (however tiny) vs straight tickover. Plus it wont do it under 5c or if the battery is not up to a certain charge.

The amount of times I've been at some lights, the car turns itself off, and turns itself back on just as the lights turn is freakishly common! Or stuck in a jam and it turns itself back on just before I touch the clutch to move off, O.O

Lozzo

01-01-11, 05:49 PM

I've not got any experience of the BMW, but one of my diving mates has a Golf 2.0 TDI. With the back seats down there's room for two divers to sit comfortably with all their kit in the boot. Which is pretty impressive for a hatchback, and even fully loaded it doesn't hang around.

Though if you're not doing massive mileages the R32 would be seriously tempting. 245 BHP. Mmmmm!!

Keith.

I had a complete Yamaha SR250 in the boot of a M4 Golf. All I did was remove the forks and front wheel and tilt the h/bars back a bit so it cleared the roof. I had more problems getting an identical bike in the boot of my Ford Maverick. Nissan Micras are surpirisingly roomy - I had two Suzuki TS50Xs in the back of one of those.

Lozzo

01-01-11, 05:49 PM

Do it Loz!!

I am sorely tempted, mainly because it is silly cheap for a car of that calibre

Lozzo

01-01-11, 05:51 PM

Parking sensors on the BM ;)

Got those on my current BMW 3 series, didn't stop me thwacking a car in the multi-storey car park the other day

hongman

01-01-11, 05:54 PM

lol. They certainly are a lazy man's tool for a car like the 1, I daresay my mrs could park it and she doesnt even have a license (yet).

01-01-11, 07:09 PM

They've prolly sold the Golf by now

Milky Bar Kid

01-01-11, 07:18 PM

They've prolly sold the Golf by now

Ha! Not a chance, it's been there for months I have found out! Plenty of other Golfs around

MisterTommyH

01-01-11, 07:19 PM

Ha! Not a chance, it's been there for months I have found out!

There's usually a reason for that!

Milky Bar Kid

01-01-11, 07:25 PM

Price I think!

01-01-11, 08:41 PM

Lucky you to have £10K+ spare:D

Bluefish

01-01-11, 08:43 PM

To be fair Ed i'm sure most of that would be from the trade in, if not then lucky indeed.

01-01-11, 09:21 PM

I have no idea why the Golf is so popular, I had one as a hire car for 3 months from new whilst waiting for my new ca,r and as with the gold GTD I test drove before picking my new car it was dreadful, boring and like a boat.

The 1 series is infinetly better, thats why i picked one lol

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs620.snc4/58045_477018637023_671867023_6273582_5476651_n.jpg

Bluepete

01-01-11, 09:35 PM

Bet it's still there too! That's a bit icy G...

Biker Biggles

01-01-11, 09:37 PM

Neither.Stop being a poseur and get something reliable and Japanese.

-Ralph-

01-01-11, 09:38 PM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs620.snc4/58045_477018637023_671867023_6273582_5476651_n.jpg

I still think it looks better than a Golf

01-01-11, 09:51 PM

Bet it's still there too! That's a bit icy G...

Ha that was derwent water it was ice from the minute we turned off the A57, it was pretty damn icy but not a big deal with the traction control off.

01-01-11, 09:58 PM

You appear to have skidded off the road, G:lol:

01-01-11, 10:26 PM

Sorry for the threadjacking MBK, get the BMW ;)

It's a parking spot Ed, kind of, bad parking was due to avoiding the bloody ducks.

Theres hundread of them up there, well worth a visit,

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs761.ash1/165214_477018732023_671867023_6273585_4569023_n.jp g

They were starving, put your hands in your pockets and rustle about and they think its feeding time meaning you can't move...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs067.snc6/167786_477019312023_671867023_6273610_4474306_n.jp g

suicidesam

02-01-11, 12:33 AM

Golf for me.. I got one. 05 GT TDI 140, had it about a year now. Think 13k is way too steep for a 55 reg, unless there's next to no miles on it. Paid 9k for mine with 52k mls on it October 09. GT's have most of the extras on them, a/c auto lights/wipers fogs etc standard, the highline's get all the toys... Dual climate pack and most have leather.
For the price you said I'd be wanting a GT TDI Sport 170 on 06/56.
Economy.. Daily blast from Falkirk to Blantyre along the M8 it returns 59mpg on the way through and 54mpg on the way home.. ermm.. ;)
As for getting about in the snow...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/suicidesam/Golfinsnow.jpg

I had 18" alloys on when we got hit, 225/40/18 are not ideal! still managed to get out of here with chassis deep snow. Got stuck 2 days later when we got hit with even deeper falls tho :mad:
Now back on the standard wheels till the winter is past :(