-Ralph-
17-02-11, 09:37 PM
These days I can hear calling to prayer over the top of the Parish Church Bells on a Sunday, if I'm down at my parents, bearing in mind that the church is nearer than the Mosque, it can get irritating hearing a bloke warbling out of tune!
You see, this is what's getting to people who feel they are getting swamped. If I could hear a call to prayer in my own living room, I'd be pi$$ed off. Practising your own religion is one thing, rubbing in the noses of the indigenous population is quite another. When you are in somebody else's country, they are your hosts, and should have some respect for your hosts. Of course your hosts should have respect for you, but I honestly think white against black racism is a dying breed, as we discussed much earlier on in the thread, this kind of racism in schools in the 21st century is not a significant issue, so in society in 20 or 30 years time it shouldn't be a significant issue IF the current status quo is maintained. I fear it won't be maintained, but that's a whole different post.
Fairly naieve cos it's not that straightforward is it?
The number of stanis and Indians in this country is the result of the British empires rule and an open door policy to people from the colonies they controlled until relatively not too long ago
Very true, "we", society let this happen through apathy
France have the North Africans, Germany have the turks
You stole my thunder, everywhere that had colonies, has this problem.
Then you hear someone of Asian decent saying "I'm British, I was born here." True, you were born here and have a British passport but have you adopted the British way of life or have you adopted your parents/grandparents way of life? Our worse still are you trying to change our way of life?
I think to be fair, in my experience (which is 6 years engaged to a Sri Lankan, living in a heavily Asian area, with daily integration into Asian families), most Asians saying this have integrated pretty well. Most who haven't integrated and don't want to would never admit to being British.
WI have been called all sorts in the past
'pee off u effing jew, u dirty turk, smelly arab' those sorts of things*. All by white people.
It gets to a stage where you're arguin with someone and you know they are just about to pull the race card cos they're losing it. I'm not surprised when colours in numbers bite back with their own racist remarks - people who get bullied bully.
I've never had to resort to a racist remark cos in my opinion its a massive sign of weakness
When I met you the other week, I noticed that you had dark hair and eyebrows and perhaps a more pigmented skin colour than the average Brit, but I have friends who are British with one Italian, Turk, Greek great-grandparent who are as dark as you. I'm surprised to learn you had these issues TBH. Where are you from?
These are the words of a student of mine who is of Pakistani decent. On his family and acquaintances*... "Yeah, they all say they're English, that they were born here but you just wait and see which flag the b***ards are waving when the (Pakistan) cricket team gets here
Wow, bit strong IMO, think we may have found a true racist on the forum. Are all Pakistani's b***ards?
Nothing wrong with choosing a team to support then putting your heart and soul into it IMO. My stepfather is English through and though, but married into a Scottish family and decided he much prefers the scots. He has a small Saltire in his back windscreen and shouts for Scotland in the 6 nations. If Scotland are not playing, then I support France with my wife.
I do wonder how our son will look as he grows up, and if he might be subjected to funny comments, but hes so damn cute, I doubt he'll have any problems
I doubt he'll have problems either, it's a very very different world to when Peg was at school ;)
He'll have all the ladies more like, lucky barsteward :-)
He should also be very healthy BTW, you know the problems with pure bred dogs? Well I'm not comparing your son to a dog, but the same problems also inflict humans to a lesser extent, and it's been shown that kids from very different gene pools have remarkably few health problems.
incidentally, aylesbury is similar to Luton. I went to school there, and got abused by the same lot you're on about a fair few times...I'm neither brown nor white. Go figure eh.
Sorry mate, Aylesbury's nothing like Luton.
You see, this is what's getting to people who feel they are getting swamped. If I could hear a call to prayer in my own living room, I'd be pi$$ed off. Practising your own religion is one thing, rubbing in the noses of the indigenous population is quite another. When you are in somebody else's country, they are your hosts, and should have some respect for your hosts. Of course your hosts should have respect for you, but I honestly think white against black racism is a dying breed, as we discussed much earlier on in the thread, this kind of racism in schools in the 21st century is not a significant issue, so in society in 20 or 30 years time it shouldn't be a significant issue IF the current status quo is maintained. I fear it won't be maintained, but that's a whole different post.
Fairly naieve cos it's not that straightforward is it?
The number of stanis and Indians in this country is the result of the British empires rule and an open door policy to people from the colonies they controlled until relatively not too long ago
Very true, "we", society let this happen through apathy
France have the North Africans, Germany have the turks
You stole my thunder, everywhere that had colonies, has this problem.
Then you hear someone of Asian decent saying "I'm British, I was born here." True, you were born here and have a British passport but have you adopted the British way of life or have you adopted your parents/grandparents way of life? Our worse still are you trying to change our way of life?
I think to be fair, in my experience (which is 6 years engaged to a Sri Lankan, living in a heavily Asian area, with daily integration into Asian families), most Asians saying this have integrated pretty well. Most who haven't integrated and don't want to would never admit to being British.
WI have been called all sorts in the past
'pee off u effing jew, u dirty turk, smelly arab' those sorts of things*. All by white people.
It gets to a stage where you're arguin with someone and you know they are just about to pull the race card cos they're losing it. I'm not surprised when colours in numbers bite back with their own racist remarks - people who get bullied bully.
I've never had to resort to a racist remark cos in my opinion its a massive sign of weakness
When I met you the other week, I noticed that you had dark hair and eyebrows and perhaps a more pigmented skin colour than the average Brit, but I have friends who are British with one Italian, Turk, Greek great-grandparent who are as dark as you. I'm surprised to learn you had these issues TBH. Where are you from?
These are the words of a student of mine who is of Pakistani decent. On his family and acquaintances*... "Yeah, they all say they're English, that they were born here but you just wait and see which flag the b***ards are waving when the (Pakistan) cricket team gets here
Wow, bit strong IMO, think we may have found a true racist on the forum. Are all Pakistani's b***ards?
Nothing wrong with choosing a team to support then putting your heart and soul into it IMO. My stepfather is English through and though, but married into a Scottish family and decided he much prefers the scots. He has a small Saltire in his back windscreen and shouts for Scotland in the 6 nations. If Scotland are not playing, then I support France with my wife.
I do wonder how our son will look as he grows up, and if he might be subjected to funny comments, but hes so damn cute, I doubt he'll have any problems
I doubt he'll have problems either, it's a very very different world to when Peg was at school ;)
He'll have all the ladies more like, lucky barsteward :-)
He should also be very healthy BTW, you know the problems with pure bred dogs? Well I'm not comparing your son to a dog, but the same problems also inflict humans to a lesser extent, and it's been shown that kids from very different gene pools have remarkably few health problems.
incidentally, aylesbury is similar to Luton. I went to school there, and got abused by the same lot you're on about a fair few times...I'm neither brown nor white. Go figure eh.
Sorry mate, Aylesbury's nothing like Luton.