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About time that idiot was gone. Back on track...
I was of the understanding you could ride your bike to a testing station to be tested without having road tax. However, should your vehicle fail the MOT you were then not legally allowed to ride the bike home as it is then registered as having no MOT. In previous years this would not have mattered so long as you took the vehicle to the testing station BEFORE the expiry date of the previous MOT. I'm talking here about before everything went computerised. But now if you take your vehicle to be tested and it fails, it automatically over rules any certificate issued previously.
Someone tell me if I am wrong.
Teejayexc
27-01-11, 02:49 PM
Btw if anyone wants it I now have Matt Yokes home address if someone wants to send him some **** in the post?
And that would make you no better than him.
leave it!
Damn, I missed all the fun.
i had an MOT fail on old bike, but my passed MOT from the previous year was still valid, i just had the 10days of free re-test time.
not sure on official mumbo jumbo tho, anyone on here a genuine MOT'er??
BOBGOLDING
27-01-11, 03:01 PM
I doubt a company would use a directors address, as normal correspondance would be too a company and a director would not want to have company post going to residential address.
You can set up a company with only 1 director so he is probably a one man band. I would be wary of posting comments about sending mail as i would of thought this would come under the vast umbrella of "harrassment"
You can harrass someone nowadays by simply walking down the street and looking at them the wrong way :)
-Ralph-
27-01-11, 03:20 PM
I doubt a company would use a directors address, as normal correspondance would be too a company and a director would not want to have company post going to residential address.
You can set up a company with only 1 director so he is probably a one man band. I would be wary of posting comments about sending mail as i would of thought this would come under the vast umbrella of "harrassment"
You can harrass someone nowadays by simply walking down the street and looking at them the wrong way :)
Hi Bob,
Welcome to the forum. Start a new thread to say Hi and tell us a bit about yourself.
Timing of you joining is a bit unfortunate having had problems with Matts-Yokes. His account got locked at 2:07pm and your first post was a 2:38. In addition there is a famous Bob Golding whose occupation is as a voice actor. Then you posted what you posted in this thread.
I'm sure it's not the case, like I said unfortunate timing, but don't be surprised and don't take it personally if there is some suspicion that you are just Matts-Yokes signed up under a new username.
Enjoy the forum.
I doubt a company would use a directors address, as normal correspondance would be too a company and a director would not want to have company post going to residential address.
You can set up a company with only 1 director so he is probably a one man band. I would be wary of posting comments about sending mail as i would of thought this would come under the vast umbrella of "harrassment"
You can harrass someone nowadays by simply walking down the street and looking at them the wrong way :)
PM-ed.
i had an MOT fail on old bike, but my passed MOT from the previous year was still valid,
No it wasn't it gets recinded if you get it tested & it fails.
Even if you fail you can still ride straight home if that's where it's going to get repaired
aaahh spose that makes sense, in fairness tho, if your bike fails its MOT, home is where you would go anyway.
BOBGOLDING
27-01-11, 03:39 PM
Yes once a bike is MOT'd and fails it is classed as not roadworthy from that point on, but i thing riding it home is ok? But would a copper not say you should leave it at the motorcycle shop to be made roadworthy?
BOBGOLDING
27-01-11, 03:40 PM
Hi Bob,
Welcome to the forum. Start a new thread to say Hi and tell us a bit about yourself.
Timing of you joining is a bit unfortunate having had problems with Matts-Yokes. His account got locked at 2:07pm and your first post was a 2:38. In addition there is a famous Bob Golding whose occupation is as a voice actor. Then you posted what you posted in this thread.
I'm sure it's not the case, like I said unfortunate timing, but don't be surprised and don't take it personally if there is some suspicion that you are just Matts-Yokes signed up under a new username.
Enjoy the forum.
Hi Ralph,
Thanks for that, i recently slid off my SV and hit a kerb so need some parts. I will say "hello" elsewhere
yorkie_chris
27-01-11, 03:44 PM
Yes once a bike is MOT'd and fails it is classed as not roadworthy from that point on, but i thing riding it home is ok? But would a copper not say you should leave it at the motorcycle shop to be made roadworthy?
They could #say# that, but you're not required to listen to them. You're allowed to take the bike to and from a pre arranged MOT (fail or pass) and to take it somewhere to have MOT fail defects repaired.
fizzwheel
27-01-11, 03:58 PM
I doubt a company would use a directors address, as normal correspondance would be too a company and a director would not want to have company post going to residential address.
You can set up a company with only 1 director so he is probably a one man band. I would be wary of posting comments about sending mail as i would of thought this would come under the vast umbrella of "harrassment"
You can harrass someone nowadays by simply walking down the street and looking at them the wrong way :)
Posted from the same IP address that the last post from Matts-yokes posted from
Co-incidence, I think not...
So thats that account suspended as well.
Posted from the same IP address that the last post from Matts-yokes posted from
Co-incidence, I think not...
So thats that account suspended as well.
I liked Bob's reference to his love of fishing. "Trawling" presumably? :lol:
-Ralph-
27-01-11, 04:11 PM
So thats that account suspended as well.
Technical curiosity here. How is he still in the list of people viewing the thread?
fizzwheel
27-01-11, 04:12 PM
Because hes not banned, so he can still login. His login is useless as he doesnt have any posting privelleges, i.e. he can only view.
Teejayexc
27-01-11, 04:50 PM
Because hes not banned, so he can still login. His login is useless as he doesnt have any posting privelleges, i.e. he can only view.
Sooooooooo, we can say what we like about him and he can't answer?
Who's first ? :smt043
yorkie_chris
27-01-11, 04:51 PM
I reckon just start advertising Davie_SVs yoke making skills :)
davepreston
27-01-11, 05:27 PM
i say you all sack it and get back to talking about bikes and ****
but feel free to have a pop at me as im not a computer comando and will happily discuss any issue in person
trolling is for other carp sites that are full of mouth peices not here
wind your neck in ,behave or ****off somewnere else if you want to
that includes you yc stop biteing cos all this **** is starting to get on my tits
edit
for anyone who doesnt know yc is a very good friend of mine and im close to giving him a cuff round the ear (or worse ,drinking sess yc)
Lol @ DP
Just about sums it up, in my opinion.
Reminds me to check when my MOT runs out though ;)
Milky Bar Kid
27-01-11, 07:09 PM
Lol @ DP
Just about sums it up, in my opinion.
Reminds me to check when my MOT runs out though ;)
Yeh....I hate trying to remember stuff like this.
Stig, re your question, as stated you are allowed to ride home if it fails.
Yeh....I hate trying to remember stuff like this.
Stig, re your question, as stated you are allowed to ride home if it fails.
Moi also MBK
Officer discretion would probably allow for the vehicle to be returned home for necessary repairs etc UNLESS that vehicle was of such an unroadworthy state that to do so could be an issue of safety, that would be decided by the officer in question! Common sense rules here :D
PJ
Biker Biggles
27-01-11, 09:56 PM
OK so you can legally ride an untaxed un moted bike to and from a pre booked test.No issue with that,but isnt it a separate offence to fail to display a tax disc in accordance with the regulations?And isnt that one of those nasty little "strict liability" offences where if it aint displayed you commit an offence no matter what?
Milky Bar Kid
27-01-11, 09:57 PM
Moi also MBK
Officer discretion would probably allow for the vehicle to be returned home for necessary repairs etc UNLESS that vehicle was of such an unroadworthy state that to do so could be an issue of safety, that would be decided by the officer in question! Common sense rules here :D
PJ
Definately...if it's failed then you can still be booked for whatever it's failed from, so if for example it failed cause your tread is below the legal requirment then you could still get a ticket...if you get what I mean?
-Ralph-
27-01-11, 10:01 PM
Garage told me I couldn't drive a vehicle with a failed MOT even though the vehicle hadn't yet reached it's third birthday. I told them in advance what the vehicle would fail on, and asked them to sort it BEFORE they MOT'd it. They ignored me and MOT'ed it first, failed it on those items, then didn't have the parts in stock, hence taking the car off the road for two days. Had they not done the MOT and just told me they didn't have the parts, I could still have driven it.
davepreston
27-01-11, 10:29 PM
you can take a failed mot vechile to somewhere to exact repairs ,nowhere else
so no mot- from yours to mot center, fail mot- mot center to place of repair
AS LONG AS YOU CAN PROVE PREBOOKING/ FAIL SHEET DATED THAT DAY
OK so you can legally ride an untaxed un moted bike to and from a pre booked test.No issue with that,but isnt it a separate offence to fail to display a tax disc in accordance with the regulations?And isnt that one of those nasty little "strict liability" offences where if it aint displayed you commit an offence no matter what?
Ah yes BB one is correct, the offence is complete with regards to failure to display but as always with law there are 'howevers'. As I stated earlier no tax is a 'revenue issue' really. The worst you would/should get is reported to the DVLA for no tax. If this occurred whilst enroute to getting tax then they should null themselves out during crossover on the DVLA database!
To be honest no tax is more an indication of a more important issues like no insurance!
you can take a failed mot vechile to somewhere to exact repairs ,nowhere else
so no mot- from yours to mot center, fail mot- mot center to place of repair
AS LONG AS YOU CAN PROVE PREBOOKING/ FAIL SHEET DATED THAT DAY
As he said :-)
PJ
husky03
28-01-11, 02:32 AM
bibio
i wouldn't worry about ANPR mate -was out doing it the other week and the amount of cars showing as non taxed that had been taxed within the last two weeks was so high we ended up leaving it-the system in theory is great but the flaw is it depends on a human actually updating the information your checking against for it to be reliable.
well done fizzy.
wonder how many times i will get pulled by the boys/girls in blue when i get my bike mot'd and taxed due to ANPR? or is it that advanced and up to date that it will know i have done it.
this will be done on a saturday just before post office closes.
Milky Bar Kid
28-01-11, 02:33 AM
Husk...yer a shuggy, you'll no bother wi ocht unless its a breach..
husky03
28-01-11, 02:35 AM
had a rumble tonight, got smacked twice, a couple of good ones too-just as well i'm an ugly git already(and there was a wee breach in the end:D)
They could #say# that, but you're not required to listen to them. You're allowed to take the bike to and from a pre arranged MOT (fail or pass) and to take it somewhere to have MOT fail defects repaired.
Correct!
That gets you off your charge of riding a vehicle without MOT ;)
But will not get you off a charge of riding with bald tyres/defective brakes or whatever else it failed on
[/pedant]
:D
Garage told me I couldn't drive a vehicle with a failed MOT even though the vehicle hadn't yet reached it's third birthday. I told them in advance what the vehicle would fail on, and asked them to sort it BEFORE they MOT'd it. They ignored me and MOT'ed it first, failed it on those items, then didn't have the parts in stock, hence taking the car off the road for two days. Had they not done the MOT and just told me they didn't have the parts, I could still have driven it.
Hope you billed them for 2 days car hire ;) idiots that don't listen :roll:
re my last post - must read to end of thread : fail
-Ralph-
28-01-11, 07:04 PM
Hope you billed them for 2 days car hire ;) idiots that don't listen :roll:
re my last post - must read to end of thread : fail
Not the end of the world as I have two cars and two bikes. I did delay a trip to Scotland by a couple of days however because I wanted to take that car.
The only problem I had with taxing the bike online was that the tax was due at the end of the month that my MOT occurred, it hadn't got onto the DVLA system in time for it to show that I had a valid MOT.
So, if your tax and MOT fall in the same month, be aware that it can take a couple of weeks for the MOT certificate to get onto the system
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