View Full Version : Annual Ride-out 2006 - Points for discussion
Okay okay I know we've only just finished the AR05 but I thought maybe some early thoughts and ideas would be in our best interests and rather than have umpteen polls about location and every little thing, it might be worth having an objective discussion at this early stage to try and work out where, why and how for next year to make it an even greater success than this one.
For a start, thanks to Jelster, Baldyman and also to Sid Squid, we know that the marker system works very well with the SV650 crowd (being generally sensible and well-behaved etc), is easy to implement and ensured that no-one gets lost or left behind. So unless anyone has any objections I think we'll keep that for next year too.
But what about destination? I know some peeps have mentioned Scotland and without doubt it's a gorgeous place but is it a reality for the big annual ride-out or more suited to those adventurous peeps who don't mind riding 400 miles in a day? This also applies to Cornwall and other far-flung reaches and I say this because I personally think that the main objective of the AR is to get together as many SV riders as possible in one group on one day, with the collective spirit of a mass of SVs etc giving it a special feeling, just like we had last Sunday.
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Now in reality I reckon that there is a limit to how many miles the majority of peeps are prepared to ride and the map below probably represents the most effective geographical area for the AR if we're to carry on amassing SVs rather than go to a far off beautiful area off the country where the turnout will be significantly less. Naturally there will be a fair amount of argument over this :lol: but surely it has to be pretty close to the mark as the people from the far south don't want go to the far north and the people from the far north don't want to go to the far south - and let's not get started on the east to westers!
Another point to consider is the social side. As without doubt we are a particularly friendly lot and there have been a lot of comments about extending the social gathering so that we all have plenty of time to meet up and preferably have a drink or two, which will mean a definite two day event. Now this year I was persuaded to camp for the Saturday and I have to say it worked really well and there were quite a few us at the camp site all mucking in and making merry. Maybe this could be expanded upon for next year?
Length and pace of the ride? Now some thought it too far, some too fast ( :?: ). Maybe we could have a two stage ride with 60 miles of each and aimed at the more casual rider in one and the more focussed rider in the second (though I don't mean a balls-out scream-around!)?
Support vehicles? Well if partners aren't keen to ride pillion (which is understandable) then a support vehicle(s) would be really handy and allow non bike peeps to participate in a valued role should they wish. This year we had Mrs Ape (Jo) as unofficial support vehicle and it worked very nicely.
Various points like these if thought over might make next year an event not to be missed and one where the social factor is as important as the ride itself. Okay I'm done ranting, over to you guys and gals.
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I vote for Lincolnshire :lol: Having lived there in the past the roads are awesome.
More socialising, definitely.
Doing a split groups would mean more organising, so whoever is in the local area would have more to do than this year.
Where ever it is and what ever the circumstances I will be there, and so will Jo. :thumbsup:
I actually enjoyed the Saturday evening more than the rideout day it's self. Not to say that I didn't enjoy the rideout. Just thought that the socialising bit was better. :D :D
Quiff Wichard
07-06-05, 08:58 PM
personally- I think if that red line is a proposed route for next year its a little too long !! :lol:
NO- serious...:
yep- it has to be within easy access but distance isnt a factor it is time ! hence M6 corridor- M5 .M1 etc...
deffo it needs to be a social gathering as well as a ride out- maybe even to the "detriment" of the rideout length !! it was quite far !!
or- there could be 2 over 2 days- one nice n social.and one like "speed skating" at the ice rink!!..a faster /harder ride...then one can choose - one or both !! ...
Could we pay a premium! to camp like- where we were was £4 a night - I would have paid £10 a night if we could have taken over the whole site !! so we could have been more "relaxed" and maybe even not had to go to the pub but had BBQ and cans into the early morning....
This forum is ace for findig out info - a rideout/meeting is a prime place for face to face interaction and to look at bikes- there wa snot enuff time to do that this time
name badges.forum name /real name are a must !!!!!!!
Can't fault the system/the markers/indicators at corners/organisation.etc etc - it was faultless !! ..... s the infrastructure is there it is just the niceities that need addressing....we are all aware and appreciative John of the input and ime it takes to organise such an vent and the personal "worry" you must have that it all goes without a hitch or incident or safety issue ..........as you said everyone is fun and friendly but ADULT and it all went well...
Main areas I feel- to address going forward are:
* Location
* Mileage of rideout
* day.time of rideout to allow social aspect and maybe sleep it off b4 journey home.- this does lean towarda saturday ride out which may be too busy on the road !!!
* Stop offs in the rideout...maybe 2 to 3 stops would be better one with a fuel stop of course
*Those who gave up their enjoyment to give us enjoyment this year should be given opportunity to enjoy next year- there are enough competent riders and mture adults to relieve baldyman/jelster sid and yourself on the day and allow you to become the rideout and soak it all up .
* wales is do able by all !!- and scenery is perfect and roads are ideal..but we all know the boys in blue and bikers in wales do not mix !
* Does it need to be annually!!..... cost is minimal can it not be twice a year- (cant say BI- scoobs will pounce)
Without a doubt it was testement to you and the site when there were so many there on sunday - they just kept arriving !! --- I was amazed when the figure surpassed 40 then 50 then + + + + ..........awesome.....so the feeling is there/the committment is there..we just need the input...!!! and an agreement..........
2 camp site?? wales first ? small rideout then pack up n all ride over to midlands! and camp and go see the motorbike museum?? just an idea...then its central to get home for all !!............(unless ur welsh !)
I think folk should just thought shower (cant say brainstorm can we now !!) any idea no matter how daft it appears and just pool the best thghts !
thats my input anyway for what it is worth...
if i had to say one thing - I enjoyed it more than anyything I have done for a long time- serious !..but would have loved more time to interact and view bikes and talk biking and put faces to names.... thats not a negative just a constructive point ..you cant be all things to all people...
cheers - was ace roll on AR06 (with social gathering!)
more socialising is a great idea but to pull that off the date needs to be set early. Then more people will be able to book time off work etc and maybe turn it into a long weekend? And possibly we'll get people from further afield.
Anonymous
07-06-05, 09:02 PM
I would like to see this extended to a full weekend. Maybe a joining of the rideout and the jamboree idea.
The support idea is a good one, and gives a role for those who may not be able to ride. Some bits and bobs and general stuff.
I know what you are saying about distances but I think we should go further afield. I see the arguments for being close to the main centres but I'd personally like to be more adventurous and think we should occasionally try and go to meet the far flung groups. For example TBH SVEcosse have been stalwarts of this forum when other groups have been less active. I think they are used to having to travel and make an effort and we can be a little lazy (and I include myself as I didnt even turn up this year). Howevee I appreciate your point in it being a social gathering. Its difficult.
Perhaps therefore theres scope for an Annual Rideout AND and an SV-adventure (more of a UK version of the Eurotour) similar to the joint Scotland Ireland venture which is to be applauded.
Vtwinlover
07-06-05, 09:02 PM
I vote for Lincolnshire :lol: Having lived there in the past the roads are awesome.
The roads are good in lincolnshire but i wouldnt recomend the company they keep (by that i mean the plod).
A fortnight ago i was up there as a pasenger in a car and we got zapped coming around a long bend from about 1 mile away across a field by a copper in a lay by :o I just dont think thats cricket :shock:
diamond
07-06-05, 09:04 PM
Wherever it is next year i will be there and i'll be camping roll on ARO6
:riding: :thumbsup:
Anonymous
07-06-05, 09:09 PM
Quiff, Wales was put forward this year and turned down.
BUT its important that this misconception of all of Wales being like the problems in the north. The South and Mid Wales are great biking territory and the plod seem fine as well. Many of us ride the south and the mid wales mountains a lot and without problems.
Im not advocating Wales as an option, although its a good one, but this poit needs puting straight.
if we get any more turning up we'll need a police escort :shock:
mysteryjimbo
07-06-05, 09:18 PM
Wherever it is next year i will be there and i'll be camping roll on ARO6
:riding: :thumbsup:
Bring your battery charger..... :lol:
Lincolnshire and Wales are great for biking and get my vote. I think the police are fine for large "well paced" groups that ride safe and organised. Its the smaller groups that ride at ridiulous speeds that are frowned upon.
Anonymous
07-06-05, 09:22 PM
i think a couple of annual runs a year would be good maybe one in april/may and one in aug/sept.
us up here in jockland (the best biking roads you will find in the country i might add) often ride 100 miles just to meet up and our usual rideout usually twice a month is about 250 miles.
i couldnt make this rideout due to lack of sitters but the distance was a bit off putting as it would have been about 400 miles one way.
glad you all had fun though. irish/jock run on weekend of 16th july if anyone is interested in joining us. :lol:
I would like to see this extended to a full weekend. Maybe a joining of the rideout and the jamboree idea.
That's a very good point. The Jamboree never did take off and to combine the two would be an excellent idea.
Perhaps therefore theres scope for an Annual Rideout AND and an SV-adventure (more of a UK version of the Eurotour) similar to the joint Scotland Ireland venture which is to be applauded.
Another good point (blimey! :shock: :lol: ). I like the idea of an an Adventure rideout too and can't see any reason why we couldn't do one at the end of the summer. That way there's the AR early summer within the (suggested) red circle limits and then the AV which can be anywhere, will have far less of a turnout, but allows the more adventurous peeps to meet up regardless of distance.
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Quiff Wichard
07-06-05, 10:07 PM
oo i will be back off hols then-
sorry John- dont wanna derail and make this a chat room!!
but I for one would not be bothered if it were Scotland .....in fact i wud suggest scotland.
I will have a think about this and post my thoughts soon. Attending and organising rallies is something that i have been involved in, in the past.
if we get any more turning up we'll need a police escort :shock:
We did this year, but he was a very bad influence. Although he did say at the end of the day that he thought no-one had broken any laws what so-ever. So that was nice. :lol: :lol:
Having just done two large group rideouts in quick succession i'd like to put my thoughts up. the thundercat ride was on a saturday, most people rode down on the fri and stayed in B and Bs . The ride started on the sat at 9.45, break at 10.30 - 11.00, for 30 mins, on to the lunch stop at around 1.00 for 1 hr, then another stop at 3.00 and back to the start at 4.30. Total distance was 180 miles. every body met up in a pub in the evening where a buffet had been arranged from 7.30. peeps then stayed sat night and went home on the sunday. This gave a more relaxed ride and no aches and pains from having travelled 3-4oo miles in one day!. also it was more of a social occasion. people from up scotland and down south have also arranged their own rides for later on in the season. Perhaps this would be a better format for our rideouts. Camping is also a possibility to keep costs down.
Daryl.
My thoughts
In reality this is a club. Maybe we need to think about an events organiser for the whole country?
Id propose an SV gathering. No rideout just a gathering of sv’s owners club style. Find a field with hall, organise a band/disco/entertainment, food, drinks etc. Charge a fee per head or similar and just have a weekend of kicking back and socialising. I don’t see this as being too much of a problem, as the likes of the triumph owners club hold a rally near me every year at a local rugby club, but this would need planning and some work. Location? Dead centre of that circle.
The UK tour idea also sounds good. But if you think about having a lot of SV’s doing serious mileage at the sort of speeds that AR05 was at some of the time, this could be painful, but not to be ruled out. Maybe visiting the regional groups over a week period would be cool. However, I think that its only the southern groups bar Guildford, that meet weekly. Still, it can be arranged
Then there’s the annual rideout like what we have had for the past few years. Yes, make it a weekend. Have a designated campsite. Supply food n drink, but as said, have the ride on the Saturday. To be honest, I have been on a rideout on a Saturday before in the Stratford area, and it wasn’t as bad as you’d think. You seem to get more people ‘Sunday driving’ on the sunday, it is also good to relax after the ride and socialize, and not all dart off as you all need to get home kind of thing. So a 3 day event, ride on the Saturday, BBQ in the evening, then home on the Sunday.
Some problems that I see are that there is a high concentration of sv owners in the south. When AR05 was planned for location, the south actually came top if I remember, with Wales second, and the Cotswolds was a latecomer which we agreed on. Still, a majority of the southern riders didn’t make the effort. We had 50 bikes on the November run to Brighton last year alone. Ok, some of this may have been down to commitments, but I think that its more down to people not wanting to ride a huge distance. It would be good to get their views on this more than the people that came this year.
So there you have my ramblings. I think that we should keep the annual rideout and move it round the country. We have had Buxton, Box hill, Burford, North Wales, so Scotland/lakes would be the next logical choice, and a rally (ok then jamboree – it’s a bit 1940’s fate) somewhere central for all to come,
Location? Dead centre of that circle.
Sort of Rugby or Leicester then?
wheelnut
08-06-05, 08:51 AM
Location? Dead centre of that circle.
Sort of Rugby or Leicester then?
Thats just about my usual private track anyway :P
The 400 mile a day is do-able but is probably a lot for some people I agree.
First of all let me say, that AR05 was run superbly, but then again so was AR04 from the Cat and Fiddle.
Personally I would have liked more smoking time :D I was like a prisoner trying to cram 20 Embassy in when we stopped at Tesco :?
Although we sort of had 3 stops not including the flashing competitiion in the hedge bottom :P it seemed we had more time to socialise on the AR04
This year we had little time to meet people at Burford at both ends and too short a time at Tesco. On the Cat & Fiddle we seemed to have more social time at the start, in the park at Chatsworth and then in Matlock, giving people chance of another attack of the cat or meander off your own route.
As I say no complaints, just my observations and my healthy living lifestyle :P
Scotland Anyone?
Name tags seem to be the way forward for next time. I met so many but still can't tie in who's who unless there is a picture posted and labelled. Most places towards the centre of the circle are within range for me, Rutland - I guess. I've never been there.
Getting a date sorted early seems to me to be more important than the venue.
Name tags are indeed a good idea, showing both user name and real name. Rutland is very nice indeed.
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Jelster
08-06-05, 10:12 AM
Ooh I've plenty of ideas but as I'm limited for time at the mo.....
2 Ride outs, Southern area and Northern Area, as there are just so many active members in the South.
Most "clubs" do have an nnual event which is a bit of a party, so I'm with Viney on an annual gathering.
I think an informal comittee of "organisers" may be a good idea.
Anyway, back to the trade show.......
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fraser01
08-06-05, 10:33 AM
if we get any more turning up we'll need a police escort :shock:
We did this year, but he was a very bad influence. Although he did say at the end of the day that he thought no-one had broken any laws what so-ever. So that was nice. :lol: :lol:
Bad influence? ....What you implying? :shock: (i had to slow you down going home :wink: )
Everyone had a great time, noone got into bother with the fuzz...so as far as i was concerned, noone broke any laws lol :lol:
(I think there would have been an outcry if i would have started sticking people on for illegal plates, exhausts etc lol) although i do have photographic evidence lol
creamerybutter
08-06-05, 10:46 AM
I think it would be good if it were more of a weekend event, I got to say hello to a few people but due to the fact my memory is poo I still can’t place faces to usernames.
I loved the route and the speed was ok on the first leg (I was around the middle of the group) and a bit more relaxed on the second leg but the first stage was too long and I (among others) was getting quite uncomfortable, lets face it the SV especially the pointy one isn't the most comfortable of bikes.
I also like the idea of the gathering rather than just a ride out.
fraser01
08-06-05, 10:58 AM
With regards to the AR...
Personally for me, i would only choose one to go to, due to work commitments (its a pain getting time off) and i think having one event makes it just that little more special...more people make the effort to get time off for the one main event each year...if you see where i am coming from.
I camped (thanks to Mr & Mrs Big Ape) on the weekend and enjoyed every minute of it, so i think a long weekend would be really good, a chance for everyone to get together and have a good time.
Name tags..afew people mentioned this on the day that it would have been useful and i agree, i did notice afew peeps who just stayed beside there bikes and didnt socialise.. maybe having name tags will make interaction easier...or a few pints lol
As for the actual ride...well i felt, either it was a tad too long or there was not enough stops, at some points, i couldnt feel my right hand or my backside and i was hurting badly that i considered pulling over. The pace, well this was down to each individual, and as i think Greg mentioned, those who wanted to have alittle more of a challenge kept dropping off for the marker system and then making their way back up the pack (Big Ape or Sid Squid for example)...but i must say that riding with 70 bikes was fantastic...and hearing everyones engines ticking over...and the look of villagers faces as we rode through.
This rideout is becoming not so unoffical after all lol
Great weekend...look forward to next year!
Regards
Fraser :wink:
I agree that one big event is the best idea as although it might seem fairer or more convenient to have north and south meets the reality (I suggest) is that the whole thing will be diluted and nowhere near as much fun.
Regional groups do have their own regular meets and the idea of the Annual Ride-out is to bring everyone together as one big family.
I think extending the event to a whole weekend with a far larger social scene is by far the best choice. However the ride should certainly be a major part of it otherwise it would seem somewhat strange to have the AR without getting on our bikes and actually riding them!.
I'm certainly up for a Fri/Sat/Sun long weekend.
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shutdown
08-06-05, 11:25 AM
Agrees with whats been said. Would prefer a long weekend of it all also...possibly stay in hotel...i got naff all sleep...oh wait that might be something to do with Sids snoring :)
diamond
08-06-05, 11:34 AM
A full weekend of fun and frivolity sems to be the only way to go, Apart from those that were camping and 1 or 2 others i don't think i could put many faces to names.
But there's gotta be a rideout in there some where, all those bikes spread out along the road was an awesome sight and sound.
A BBQ would be cool too, Baldymans skills with his sausages would become legendary. :wink: :lol:
diamond
08-06-05, 11:45 AM
[quote=e.d.]Wherever it is next year i will be there and i'll be camping roll on ARO6
:riding: :thumbsup:
Bring your battery charger..... :lol:
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:oops: :lol:
Quiff Wichard
08-06-05, 12:03 PM
Having just done two large group rideouts in quick succession i'd like to put my thoughts up. the thundercat ride was on a saturday, most people rode down on the fri and stayed in B and Bs . The ride started on the sat at 9.45, break at 10.30 - 11.00, for 30 mins, on to the lunch stop at around 1.00 for 1 hr, then another stop at 3.00 and back to the start at 4.30. Total distance was 180 miles. every body met up in a pub in the evening where a buffet had been arranged from 7.30. peeps then stayed sat night and went home on the sunday. This gave a more relaxed ride and no aches and pains from having travelled 3-4oo miles in one day!. also it was more of a social occasion. people from up scotland and down south have also arranged their own rides for later on in the season. Perhaps this would be a better format for our rideouts. Camping is also a possibility to keep costs down.
Daryl.
I think it is all there !!
:compcrash: :winner:
Couerdelion
08-06-05, 01:30 PM
I must say that the AR05 was much better than I expected.
No one I had ever met before and a long drive (720 miles in all)
I would definitely say that camping was the best decision I made. Got there late friday and got talking to people straight away. Cheers to Muttley and Jimbo for the help with putting the tent up.
I did think that it would be a good idea to have two meet-ups next year (first weekend in june, last weekend in August) but thinking a bit more about it, a lot of people may just choose one to go to.
As someone said ina previous post, this is becoming a bit more like an SV owners club so maybe some kind of organising commitee would be an idea and maybe get the regions to organise a one night camp/ride and if other regions want to turn up then they are welcome(?)
As for next year... North Yorkshire would be good
Just one question before I make any comments. Did moving the location further south this year increase the numbers significantly?
OK just one comment. If it's always going to be inside that circle it should be called The South of England Annual Rideout :roll: Then the rest of the UK can have an sv650.org Annual Rideout 8-[
Quiff Wichard
08-06-05, 02:58 PM
1 Courd is alive !!!
2. Good point daz !
4 what happenned to 3
3 ahh there it is !!
Quiff Wichard
08-06-05, 03:02 PM
re- viney's post -
VINEY - YOU SPEAK SENSE !!
like Fraser on traffic duty- good points made !
OK just one comment. If it always going to be inside that circle it should be called The South of England Annual Rideout :roll:
Well if you look and see that the circle (just a suggestion and point for debate) actually extends further than Leeds I hardly think you could say it was just for the south. And if you're suggesting that inhabitants of Yorkshire are called southerners I think you might be asking for a lot of trouble :lol: .
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shutdown
08-06-05, 03:56 PM
I've always thought Cornwall would be a cracking run!
Start at Newquay and follow the coast round up to St Austell.
Shame its a long distance to just get there for many (including me)
Anonymous
08-06-05, 03:58 PM
I've always thought Cornwall would be a cracking run!
Start at Newquay and follow the coast round up to St Austell.
Shame its a long distance to just get there for many (including me)
Perhaps a candidate for the later summer SV Adventure run ? Im down there a lot btw and it really is nice biking, especially around the Lizard, then back up the North Coast. 3h from Bristol, no more.
I've always thought Cornwall would be a cracking run!
Start at Newquay and follow the coast round up to St Austell.
Shame its a long distance to just get there for many (including me)
Indeed Cornwall would be lovely but the sad fact is very few peeps would actually make the effort to go that far.
Perhaps a candidate for the later summer SV Adventure run?
Sounds good to me.
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Spiderman
08-06-05, 04:21 PM
My views.
1. more social time...even if it means less ride time.
2. taking the ride we did as an example... it would have been better broken up into 3 stops as short as the one at tesco.....or stop for lunch at a suitable place and take 2hrs out the day there
3. i think 2 meets would make less peeps show up than a concentrated "this is the one" day
4. I'd be up for having a 2nd "adventure" rideout for those that wanna. Be nice to bring the g/f to next yrs AR...then leave her at home for the adventure ride.
Name badges woudkl be a usefull add on but i'd also feel like i was at some kinda leather fetishists convention. Biking and name badges just dont blend well in my mind...unless we all do it Big Apes way ;)
If you wanted more social ime you should've camped out with the rest of us
Carsick
08-06-05, 05:52 PM
If you wanted more social ime you should've camped out with the rest of us
We did have a good time, but I can't help thinking that more party time would have been cool.
Anybody get the impression that I enjoy socialising?
Spiderman
08-06-05, 05:55 PM
and thats a fair point too. Maybe next year i will. i actually really enjoy camping but sadly have no equipment.
Thats didn't stop Scoobs :lol: but yeah i guess more party time would've been good :D
Carsick
08-06-05, 06:18 PM
Thats didn't stop Scoobs :lol: but yeah i guess more party time would've been good :D
You commenting on Scoobs lack of equipment? :wink:
You commenting on Scoobs lack of equipment? :wink:
... well you should know :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thats didn't stop Scoobs :lol: but yeah i guess more party time would've been good :D
You commenting on Scoobs lack of equipment? :wink:
as if i would :lol:
Spiderman
08-06-05, 06:23 PM
Thats didn't stop Scoobs :lol: but yeah i guess more party time would've been good :D
You commenting on Scoobs lack of equipment? :wink:
After all the p taking quiff was doing i'm suprised you'd be brave enough to post that comment. talk about open for a misquote :lol:
Quiff Wichard
08-06-05, 06:24 PM
rideout for those that wanna. Be nice to bring the g/f to next yrs AR...then leave her at home for the adventure ride.
u gettin a girlfriend then spidey !!
if she goin pillion make sure she is blown up well and her valves aint leakin !!. :lol:
Spiderman
08-06-05, 06:28 PM
if she goin pillion make sure she is blown up well and her valves aint leakin !!. :lol:
i do that most nights anyway
not
Too much off-topic guys, c'mon let's keep this thread sensible so we can all discuss this matter properly. ;)
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Quiff Wichard
08-06-05, 09:49 PM
yep- if u really look closely- been off topic for 24 hours and six minutes.-
I think most things have been covered now!
Jelster
10-06-05, 05:14 PM
The meeting venue must have the capacity to hold the large number of bikes that are likely to turn up. Food must also be available as some may well be travelling some time/distance to get there. Make sure fuel is available locally; a basic rideout rule is that al bikes should refuel together so they all have similar range.
A Bank Holiday weekend is always good but then many people have domestic responsibilities at that time too. Making a weekend of it certainly seems like a good idea though, but some, like me, would prefer not to “camp”, so a B&B nearby would be useful.
So, a weekend with a get together on Saturday night and a ride on Sunday? Problem here would be that some wouldn’t recover in time and others may still be over the “blood alcohol limit” the following morning…. A Saturday ride with a do on the same evening may be a better idea, then a ride to somewhere for lunch on the Sunday maybe?
Who will:
Find a venue
Organise a route with stop offs
Organise food/bar for the evening
We then may have to get into the “Well it’s going to cost “X” for this and “Y” for that, and before you know it we are into having tickets….. It then all starts getting rather formal.
Maybe each of the local groups could take it in turns in organising a do each year, or maybe we find a central location for the meet which we use every year and just find a new route every year ?
Lots of ifs, buts and questions……..
But, it's your rideout people, so you decide.....
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Good points Steve, as for the cost one, AR06 is a year away, even those that have little disposable income (me) could budget to have the funds for it.
The over the limit part, those that camped on AR05, I would say that there was more than likely a few who were over the limit on the rideout. That is entirely individuals choice.
Having a social evening does not necessarily mean getting plastered. I had a great evening (even with the headache) and drank moderately because I knew I would be riding the next morning.
I think we should firstly and quickly sort out the venue as without this sorted, nothing else is going to get organised. I would be more than willing to volunteer to help out again in any way that I can.
Jelster
10-06-05, 05:50 PM
The list of potential places to ride is huge, but my favourites would be:
Peak District National Park
Snowdonia
Dorset/Somerset (some ace roads down there)
Yorkshire Dales
North Yorkshire Moores (Could do the seaside as well!)
Scotland - But it's a long way for many of us....
I've never ridden any of these places (well I've done a little in Dorset) that's why I fancy trying them...
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I think another thing to think about is the date. If we were to do a rideout in Wales around the same time we did AR05, I think the likelyhood of having a wet one is much greater. Also if we were to do Scotland the weather is going to be quite a bit colder up there than it is down here, and it might be too cold for some of us southern pooftas :lol: :lol:
Quiff Wichard
10-06-05, 07:11 PM
Seaside would be good- coastal run??
but where? and then u have a sidewind issue usually...
sometimes with these things it might be best that whoevwer is prepared to take it on and organise it gets the whip hand in location !!??
bluebell
10-06-05, 07:53 PM
:oops: I've never made it to the AR04 or AR05, so can't make any comments on past events. For me knowing the date at this stage is more important than location as i only get every fith saturday off, holidays at my workplace have to booked in formats of weeks i.e mondays to saturdays. Any odd days have to be taken off together during mid week.
Anonymous
10-06-05, 08:31 PM
The idea of one annual rideout (and I think Steve's idea of a ride sat and leisurely sunday is good, i.e. socialising after the ride, possibly a second 'optional' sunday am ride...pos. one sat pm ride after folks ahve arribed and pitched and a sunday am/lunch one???) and local groups taking it in turns to 'host' a ride or a weekend has been mooted before. Its a good one, and has scope for most folks to get to the rideout, and a selection depending on distance anyone year or how far people will ride for the other one. I for one would really enjoy going to another area and be shown around a few rides by the locals.
In both cases more than one ride (i.e. shorter rides with possibly different flavours) seems a nice idea. Perhaps the local groups could cycle in alphabetical order, except with SVEcosse and the Irish chaps starting this year. After all theres already an invite out to join them for there venture this year...I think :lol:
fizzwheel
10-06-05, 09:07 PM
The list of potential places to ride is huge, but my favourites would be:
Peak District National Park
Snowdonia
Dorset/Somerset (some ace roads down there)
Yorkshire Dales
North Yorkshire Moores (Could do the seaside as well!)
Scotland - But it's a long way for many of us....
I've never ridden any of these places (well I've done a little in Dorset) that's why I fancy trying them...
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I'm planning a Dorset / Somerset ride, theres a post in the South West Surfers section keep your eyes peeled
Oh and I've been taking notes, points noted about start point having plenty of space, food and fuel, and having plenty of stops
Sorry to hi-jack this thread
All,
I haven't been ignoring this thread. I'm just up to my armpits in other stuff, so apologies for my lack of input.
I'll put together my thoughts over then next few days once I've got all the football related stuff out of the way (I'm helping my sons club organise a tournament).
John (maxed out)
John (maxed out)
I know the feeling, take it easy John ;).
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Cloggsy
13-06-05, 07:25 PM
I vote for Lincolnshire :lol: Having lived there in the past the roads are awesome.
The roads are good in lincolnshire but i wouldnt recomend the company they keep (by that i mean the plod).
Not 'arf... The traffic coppers in Lincolnshire are some of the 'worse' in the UK... Next to perhaps Wales :roll:
Not 'arf... The traffic coppers in Lincolnshire are some of the 'worse' in the UK... Next to perhaps Wales :roll:
Not all Wales is Bike Un-friendly it's just Richard Brunstrom's lot (North Wales Police), The Dyfed-Powys, Gwent and South Wales are okay.
http://www.north-wales.police.uk/_images/e/portalmap.gif
Stay south of a line drawn between Stoke-on-Trent and Aberdovey!
Well Ross-On-Wye sounds good to me.
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Anonymous
14-06-05, 12:18 PM
Well Ross-On-Wye sounds good to me.
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Lots of nice routes around there. Herefordshire and Powys borderland is great, up around Hay on Wye, Abergavenny etc. Then you've got Wye Valley down to Chepstow, round thorugh the Forest of Dean. Symonds Yat Rock, lots of castles to see etc....
I do these runs reguarly. Excellent biking country.
Red ones
14-06-05, 12:44 PM
That sounds good - I have somewhere for me to stay over there!
Cloggsy
14-06-05, 01:49 PM
then again so was AR04 from the Cat and Fiddle.
We're a more social lot up here though :wink:
amarko5
14-06-05, 05:14 PM
The geographical centre of the UK is hexam in northumberland or northumbria.
why does it allways have to be south of manchester.
planned in advance and made into a long weekend sounds like the best plan then you could enjoy the beauty of the borders and into the scottish borders as well.
just food for thought as the southern runs (and the last 2 have been :lol: ) tend to exclude the majority of scottish riders and those north of manchester.
there is a lot of the country north of the watford gap :P
Jelster
14-06-05, 10:30 PM
there is a lot of the country north of the watford gap :P
Yeah yeah.... And it's always bloody raining up there too :lol: :lol:
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Couerdelion
15-06-05, 02:18 AM
I'd vote to have the next one in the Yorkshire Dales.
more or less central to most people and I would even offer to help organise :-)
Hexam is the most central but how many northern Scottish memebers do we have?
timwilky
15-06-05, 06:24 AM
Having failed to make 04/05 my two penneth worth.
I personally have a problem with alcohol and bikes. I can't get enough of both and they do not go well together. Therefore any serious socialising needs to be done after a rideout with sufficient recovery time for return journeys.
Additionally as an old foogie I am partial to my creature comforts, so camping in not an option for me.
The thought has occured to me about a two stage rideout where north meets south. However this would probably be twice as much trouble and require a support vehicle probably transit sized for each group whereby luggage is carried from start to end. though pre defined meet points.
So North rideout from Carlisle area down to middle England and south rideout from somewhere down there again to middle England. (SV Ecosse can have their meet somewhere and start earlier) That way peeps can get rides in once we meet up as well, and/or socialise. or if boring just return home having completed their section of the ride.
Probably a cr@p idea, but I am trying to be constructive.
The geographical centre of the UK is hexam in northumberland or northumbria.
If you cut out a map of mainland UK (to proper scale, not like the new BBC weather maps :lol: ), suspend it from a bit of string and draw a line vertically and repeat the string thing from another point then where the lines meet is the geographical centre of the mainland.
Doing this confirms what I've always known............... the centre of the UK is near as damn it Manchester :lol:
Mind you, the population centre is south east of Manchester, nearer to Birmingham.
And the reinforce what's been said on here many times, and said by Mogs earlier, it's only the North Wales Police area that's biker unfriendly. The Dyfed-Powys and South Wales Police areas are just fine and the Gwent Police only a little bit less so.
Sid Squid
17-06-05, 06:31 PM
OK just one comment. If it's always going to be inside that circle it should be called The South of England Annual Rideout :roll: Then the rest of the UK can have an sv650.org Annual Rideout 8-[
I don't think that's fair at all.
Bearing in mind that those who actually took on the responsibility for the organising - which is to the benefit of all who attended - live further south, and as such are able easily to get the area concerned such that arrangemets could practically be made.
Further, I believe that for this issue the geographical centre of the country is irrelevant, what's important is that the meeting be made practically available to the greatest amount of potential attendees, which is presumably what we want; as large an attendance as is possible, and as such, considering that the greatest concentration of SVers is probably further south than the geographical centre, (if I'm wrong - I usually am - then somebody will surely correct this), then it's only realistic to site the area somewhere tending further south. This clearly cannot suit everybody, but that's the way geography crumbles.
I think this year's run had an excellent and diverse attendance from an encouraging selection of the regional sections, but if the annual meeting is placed somewhere which is in reality likely to attract a smaller attendance, and one which is likely to be only representing less areas of the country could it be considered to be an all-of-SV650.org-meet?
Scotland would be just fine with me - particularly with a bit of notice, I'd make the trip a bit longer than there and back - but I have a feeling I'd be on the way north with a very small number of others, this doesn't please me at all, but I do believe it would prove to be true.
...so it all points to Shropshire then :wink:
To inform the debate a little, Mogs has spent the hottest weekend of the year plotting the locations of all sv650.org members with more than 50 posts :shock:
The map is here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/twoponds/sv650/SV%20Forum%20Members.pdf) in pdf format.
Looks like AR06 will be to Coventry. :lol:
Carsick
20-06-05, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure if Mogs needs thanking or having the **** taken for sitting down and doing all that!
Excellent work Mogs! However, how did you find out the location of those that are strangely too shy to put it in their Profile? I mean it could be a concentrated group on the Isle of White :wink: .
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I'm not sure if Mogs needs thanking or having the p*ss taken for sitting down and doing all that!
I'm saying nowt coz he's bigger than me :lol:
I'm saying nowt coz he's bigger than me :lol:
He's bigger than everone! Put together!
Enough chit chat lets get planning. Where's it going to be?
I'm saying nowt coz he's bigger than me :lol:
He's bigger than everone! Put together! And that's only his right leg!!
:shock:
You're for it now :lol:
Where's it going to be?
The map says Coventry.
However, I'm happy to go along with the Shrewsbury/Marches/Ross idea, or a trip across mid-Wales.
But my vote counts for nowt coz I've got a Hornet :wink:
Jelster
20-06-05, 06:34 PM
Where's it going to be?
The map says Coventry.
However, I'm happy to go along with the Shrewsbury/Marches/Ross idea, or a trip across mid-Wales.
But my vote counts for nowt coz I've got a Hornet :wink:
What's having a Hairnet got to do with it ? :?
Anyway, I agree, let's do it there, as long as St David can keep the rain at bay......... It's only green because it's so bloody wet :lol:
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plotting the locations of all sv650.org members with more than 50 posts :shock:
There are 555 people with 50 posts or more :shock: You sure it wasn't 500 or more? There are other Irish members with more than 50 posts, but only one dot in Northern Ireland.
I've got my own dot. How cool is that :lol:
Good work mogs :notworthy:
I'm not sure if Mogs needs thanking or having the p*ss taken for sitting down and doing all that!
A map showing the locations of people who have too much time on their hands - done by someone who has too much time on his hands :lol:
Sorry mogs :oops:
OK just one comment. If it's always going to be inside that circle it should be called The South of England Annual Rideout :roll: Then the rest of the UK can have an sv650.org Annual Rideout 8-[
I don't think that's fair at all.
You're right that wasn't fair. Sorry :oops:
Nutty Tart had a good suggestion of 2 rideouts. And, in a way that is what's happening this year. There is another event being organised called the Irish/Scottish rideout. Some of the Essex group are joining us for a run on the best biking roads in the UK 8) :riding: :thumbsup:
I don't think that this would be too devicive. It simply brings a sv650.org event within the range of a different group of members.
I was at the Annual Rideout this year and really enjoyed it.
Anonymous
21-06-05, 07:01 AM
A map showing the locations of peole who have too much time on their hands - done by someone who has too much time on his hands :lol:
Now that's funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sid Squid
21-06-05, 07:43 AM
There is another event being organised called the Irish/Scottish rideout. Some of the Essex group are joining us for a run on the best biking roads in the UK
I wish I could do this one, but sadly I have another arrangement for that weekend.
creamerybutter
21-06-05, 09:04 AM
To inform the debate a little, Mogs has spent the hottest weekend of the year plotting the locations of all sv650.org members with more than 50 posts :shock:
The map is here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/twoponds/sv650/SV%20Forum%20Members.pdf) in pdf format.
Looks like AR06 will be to Coventry. :lol:
Can't be every member with more than 50 posts as there is no marker in Brum for me.
Coventry would be handy :lol:
Wales sounds good.
Can't be every member with more than 50 posts as there is no marker in Brum for me.
That was what Mogs told me.
Wales sounds good.
Aye, it does.
mudge32
24-06-05, 09:45 AM
Wales sounds good.
Aye, it does.
How's about this (http://www.blackthornleisure.co.uk/index.htm) place ? Camping and a B & B in one place :lol:
NitroNorry
24-06-05, 11:31 AM
Having missed the event this year - due to being on hols abroad - I'm having to gatecrash the SV1000 event this year! :oops:
I would really like to make next years rideout (or a second one later this year).
Some good points have been raised. My main thoughts are
Camping & B&B close to each other is needed.
One dedicated place (campsite or elsewhere) for apres bike socialising
Name tags for all
Early agreement on date - to allow booking of leave etc
Not in the extremes of the UK - as numbers will fall.
Martin
Jelster
24-06-05, 12:00 PM
You don't have to shout....
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really sad that i missed AR05 but was also abroad, will definately make the next one tho and don't care where it is, further the better.
live and work near ross on wye and hereford (areas mentioned earlier in the thread)so if it does end up down that way i would be happy to help out in the organising if needed, tho i do think it is a little close to AR05 geographically so may rub some up the wrong way.
going on a weekend run with the honda blackbird club in september so if i pick up any good ideas i'll be sure to post them.
think the name badge idea is good, even if a little 'school trip'. surely some kind of name thing will help get to know each other better, especially for the rideout newbies such as myself.
staying overnight also sounds great, anyone with no camping equipment has plenty of time to get some and most is dead cheap nowadays anyway.
Unfortunatley I was unable to attend AR04 or AR05, but I've been following this thread with interest.
Clearly accomodating everyone is an impossible task. It's important the AR06 is held in a location convient to as many SVers as possible. However, this doesn't preclude other couple of 'official' rideouts throught the year to try and accomodate those unable to make the main annual rideout as well as those more inclined to travel a bit further afield.
To make this work ideally these events would be co-ordintated to prevent cross over and to ensure everyone has plenty of notice. In short, agreeing a 2006 calander of 'official' events would be the sensible option.
Obviously one of these events would have to be a 'SV North British Rideout' :wink:
Obviously one of these events would have to be a 'SV North British Rideout' :wink:
... an SV Great North Run :riding: :thumbsup: :lol: 8-[
Anonymous
31-07-05, 07:05 PM
As long as it's not North Wales or Leicestershire I'm happy.
NitroNorry
02-08-05, 08:55 AM
Hate to drag the bigger brothers (and sisters) into this but the SV1000 mob have already booked theirs for next year. It's Cumbria in July. So looks as though traipsing to either end of the country is do-able! :o
Having missed the SV650 Annual event this year - I'd really like to do in in '06. :)
Martin
Id propose an SV gathering. No rideout just a gathering of sv’s owners club style. Find a field with hall, organise a band/disco/entertainment, food, drinks etc. Charge a fee per head or similar and just have a weekend of kicking back and socialising. I don’t see this as being too much of a problem, as the likes of the triumph owners club hold a rally near me every year at a local rugby club, but this would need planning and some work. Location? Dead centre of that circle.
top plan.
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