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Itching 2 go
15-04-06, 09:19 AM
so I was out on my bike this morning when I felt the urge to open her up a bit!
I went charging into fast corners without scrubbing off a lot of speed, I throttled on coming out of the corners and at one point i looked at the speedo to see me doing over 130MPH!

And gues what happened?!?!?!?!


Nothing at all!

No childern hurt,

no cops pulled me over,

no trees hit,

no crashing,

no running wide onto the wrong side of the road,

and no bike sliding away from where it was intended!!!



Just thought i'd post that

Cronos
15-04-06, 09:30 AM
Sounds like you've got a faulty speedometer, if it's reading 130mph when you're actually riding within the proscribed speed limits. :wink:


:lol:

kwak zzr
15-04-06, 09:45 AM
every now and again, if you get away with it, ITS GREAT IN IT!! i did something similar last nite but cant go into too much detail but the taco was on 10k in 5th. :)

Peter Henry
15-04-06, 09:47 AM
Shocking behaviour. Not to be condoned at all! :?























:^o :P

GSXR Carlos
15-04-06, 10:52 AM
[-X


































:notworthy:

Saint Matt
15-04-06, 10:56 AM
LOL



















I did 125 on a mate's R6 too ;)

Gnan
15-04-06, 11:12 AM
so I was out on my bike this morning when I felt the urge to open her up a bit!
I went charging into fast corners without scrubbing off a lot of speed, I throttled on coming out of the corners and at one point i looked at the speedo to see me doing over 130MPH!

And gues what happened?!?!?!?!


Nothing at all!

No childern hurt,

no cops pulled me over,

no trees hit,

no crashing,

no running wide onto the wrong side of the road,

and no bike sliding away from where it was intended!!!

Just thought i'd post that

it's your funeral mate, i'm sure every time people open the bikes up they think that none of the above will happen, it's a shame that some of those people are dead or paralysed and probably wish they hadn't.

kwak zzr
15-04-06, 11:17 AM
:? i'm sure when a bike is used for its speed and power the rider is aware of the dangers.

Gnan
15-04-06, 11:19 AM
no they aren't, or they wouldn't do it - they think they know, and that is the problem

Mr Toad
15-04-06, 11:20 AM
I wondered who woke me up this morning :twisted:

Flamin_Squirrel
15-04-06, 11:24 AM
no they aren't, or they wouldn't do it - they think they know, and that is the problem

Yeah? Arent you a newbie?

kwak zzr
15-04-06, 11:31 AM
ive been riding now for 11years on sports bikes, and i know the dangers.

Itching 2 go
15-04-06, 11:49 AM
just because a person is aware of the dangers and chooses still to carry on doing what they were doing does not mean they are not fully aware of the dangers! a fighter pilot is fully aware that they mey get shot down or crash and die yet they still get into the cockpit! airline pilots are fully aware that they could be hijacked and flown into a highly populated biulding yet you see all these planes still flying around. are they piloted by computers and have all the pilots chickened out??

Anonymous
15-04-06, 11:52 AM
no they aren't, or they wouldn't do it - they think they know, and that is the problem

Err.. you're wrong. Perhaps this is the case with you.

YOu will find however that most riders are FULLY aware of the dangers associated with high speed riding, they acknowledge and accept these risks.

I know perfectly well just the dangers associated with riding bikes, period. Lost two mates, doing nothing wrong, both at low speeds, the police and subsequent investigation exhonerated them from any blame.. yet they were killed. I saw one of them die. Not a pretty sight i can assure you. BUt it doesnt slow me down, as neither of the deaths were a "true" surprise... now that doesnt mean i knew they were going to die, but i knew the risks of riding a bike, accepted them, and knew that each time i went out, that even if i rode to the best of my abilities, accidents do still happen and any one of them can result in the injury or death of myself and friends. I accepted that risk, as did every one i rode with, as we all loved riding our motorbikes. The same applies for each and every rider. If they do not know and accept the risks.. they should not be on a motorcycle.

There is a time and a place, and as long as we acknowledge and accept the associated risks.. go for it.

timwilky
15-04-06, 12:01 PM
I know it is a Joe thing.

Itchin watch it or you make start getting GYKDs other traits.


I have to agree with your sentiments of personal choice and risk. I was on some roads GYKD would probably know very well between Ingleton and Hawes yesterday and have to admit that my throttle would not turn any further back :lol:

gnan, whilst many including myself had criticed peoples actions. I don't think where a rider chooses his speed with due regard for himself and others that he has done anything wrong.

Itching 2 go
15-04-06, 12:10 PM
I know it is a Joe thing. oi, just coz my name is Joe and his name is Joe does not make it a Joe thing!!!

if there were a poll on here that showed the amount of people that speed al least 20mph over the posted limit probably 70% of users would be in that catogory :P

Last Action Pimp
15-04-06, 12:30 PM
dam right!!

well done for not killing your self! (yet)

i dont care if people go over the limit or under the limit! its personal choice! (its your choice!! and if you get caught you pay the price!)

i personally dont see the point in having a 200mph bike! when the f#*k can you do 200 mph on the road! (you cant! its pointless!!) i think about the 130-140mph is a good top end speed! pleanty if you are robbing a bank! but slow enough so you dont end up doing 80 in first! passed a school! i know i would if i could but i make the choice not to have a bike that will let me! (and so does the govt!)

Akula
15-04-06, 12:31 PM
I know it is a Joe thing. oi, just coz my name is Joe and his name is Joe does not make it a Joe thing!!!

if there were a poll on here that showed the amount of people that speed al least 20mph over the posted limit probably 70% of users would be in that catogory :P

BUT 130 mph isnt 20mph over the posted limit, unless ive missed something :? :P

I think the main point is if people speed, its upto them. If they get caught dont bitch about the fine/ban. I don't the road this speed was reached on, and im sure the rider took into account, road conditions weather and whether he could see the road far enough infront so that if anything did happen he could react quickly enough so not to kill/injure himself any bystander or other motorist.

Itching 2 go
15-04-06, 12:56 PM
I know it is a Joe thing. oi, just coz my name is Joe and his name is Joe does not make it a Joe thing!!!

if there were a poll on here that showed the amount of people that speed al least 20mph over the posted limit probably 70% of users would be in that catogory :P

BUT 130 mph isnt 20mph over the posted limit, unless ive missed something :? :P
no but I am pointing out that 20mph over the posted limit is no better that 60mph over the posted limit, yet people will be let off for that and banned for 60mph over the limit.

At the end of the day it is down to the person holding the throttle to asses the road/dangers and it is their responsibility for what goes wrong!

Yes regretably there are people that ride bikes drive cars that should never have been given a liscence in the first place. There are also people that ride/drive whilst on a ban! I am not condoning this nor am I saying that I have the right to do 130 and nobody else does, we all have that right!! we are allowed by our government to buy, borrow, rent high powered machinery with no speed restriction fitted.

Some of us feel at ease and use our descresion when riding while other people are truly scared of their own shaddow and as such most likley do not have a lot of confidence and are prone to making mistakes and then having a go at other people who have greater confidence and ability than them selves.

and then you have the 'chav', boy racer, hooligan, out of control people which fall into their own category where there is no descresion and speed all the time while wheelying at 150mph through traffic on the m25 for example or pulling rolling stoppies and sliding the backend out in town. or the tailgaters who try to overtake you on a blind bend with a traffic island in the middle of the road at 345 when school kids are about.

for each and every person there is a set of rules, these rules apply to everyone but some people can and do bend/break these rules when it is safe to do so while there are others that live by the rules and never truely live. while others need to be locked up for the saftey of the world!!!

Flamin_Squirrel
15-04-06, 01:03 PM
I think the main point is if people speed, its upto them. If they get caught dont bitch about the fine/ban.

Nah. If I get caught I'll bitch and moan, because I hate the idea of pre-emptively prosecuting people who do no harm.

GSXR Carlos
15-04-06, 01:36 PM
flamin squirell, take that one with you to the arguement thread :wink:

Spiderman
15-04-06, 01:57 PM
Joe, youre just a bloody hooligan and thats all there is to it!!
















Can i be pillion next time, please? Pretty pretty please? :lol:

We are all adults and take out own risks. Joe is a competant rider and i'm sure if he'd come to any harm thru this behaviour he would be the first to take it on the chin.

Let he who is without sins cast the first stone. Seeing as its a biblical time of the year :lol:

Or.... any of youwho have flamed him for this better have never speeded/undertook/wheelied/brunouted/stoppied/ rode without all your protective gear all the time/ picked your nose etc.
Ok, ignore the nose picking but i'm sure you get my drift.

Do naughty things sometimes when you think its ok, get away with it as you planned it well, brag about it a bit and smile that it all worked out for ya.

Its called enjoying your life!

Or sit at home and wash and polish your bike and tell everyone about how you got it that clean. :roll:

I know which i prefer doing :twisted:

Last Action Pimp
15-04-06, 02:05 PM
If i get caught its my fault! its not the coppers, or mr suzuki! its down to me!

i cant stand people who think it is ok to speed! i speed (on private roads :wink: ) and when/if i get caught i will moan (at me for being so stupid) where as some people moan at the copper!!

If you dont speed you cant get caught!! simple!!

Sudoxe
15-04-06, 02:07 PM
so I was out on my bike this morning when I felt the urge to open her up a bit!
I went charging into fast corners without scrubbing off a lot of speed, I throttled on coming out of the corners and at one point i looked at the speedo to see me doing over 130MPH!

And gues what happened?!?!?!?!


Nothing at all!

No childern hurt,

no cops pulled me over,

no trees hit,

no crashing,

no running wide onto the wrong side of the road,

and no bike sliding away from where it was intended!!!



Just thought i'd post that

:shock: Shocking...

I went down the shops earler in my jeans and bike jacket/back protector, and I made it back as well :shock: :shock: Not the disaster I have been lead to believe by some people.... :lol: :roll:

Peter Henry
15-04-06, 03:16 PM
Squirrel...Now come on now, a joke is a joke...but perhaps now you have just gone too far! :?

















:P

But whilst we are at it,today I started my bike without wearing my gloves,am I not just the baddest ass you ever knew? :P :P

Saint Matt
15-04-06, 04:22 PM
I rode to my mates in a t shirt, jeans and trainers, ok he lives a few streeta nd it was just laziness lol.

Balky001
15-04-06, 04:25 PM
I rode without having my back protector as tight as I would normally have it - does this count as reckless too? Ooh, bad boys stick together

JakeRS
15-04-06, 04:46 PM
no they aren't, or they wouldn't do it - they think they know, and that is the problem

Yes they are, I'm fully aware after its happened to me once and I nearly died...

And I still do it, albeit a little more carefully.

I call it stupidity and ignorance :wink:

$i
15-04-06, 04:54 PM
:twisted: Good boy...


:lol:

mysteryjimbo
15-04-06, 05:25 PM
Its down to personal choice. Just dont do it if you're puttin others at risk. The roads are pretty quiet today.

I refuse to post my top speed in fear of being flamed :lol:

Its not big or clever. More a matter of "seeing what it can do" on a quiet bank holiday road

Dicky Ticker
15-04-06, 05:58 PM
What is the point of buy a bike capable of speeds nearly twice the legal limits if you don't use it Perhaps the personage would like us all to ride 125's or twist and go 80's

As a matter of interest I cleared the cobwebs out of mine eary this morning and it was 2xplus some on a perfectly clear new dual carriageway with no side roads or any other traffic for a couple of miles


IF YOU WANT TO BE A KILLJOY PLEASE REMEMBER SOME OF THE RIDERS ON THIS FORUM HAVE TOTED UP 100,000'S OF MILES AND THEY MIGHT ,JUST MIGHT
KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING

Jelster
15-04-06, 06:03 PM
If there no other 3rd parties are endangered, and you are prepared to take the risks, then it's down to the rider, simple as that. Open road in a NSL zone is game on really, just take it on the chin if you get caught.

Joe, I was "in the zone" myself today mate, well done....

.

Sudoxe
15-04-06, 06:48 PM
IF YOU WANT TO BE A KILLJOY PLEASE REMEMBER SOME OF THE RIDERS ON THIS FORUM HAVE TOTED UP 100,000'S OF MILES AND THEY MIGHT ,JUST MIGHT
KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING

Exactly, there are quite a few people on here on ride "Mega Miles" for bikers, i.e. 15k+ a year. (at least 3 times what an "average" bike is expected to do i seem to remeber.) Lots of people have had had advanced training, IAM/RoSPA. And have ridden for more years than they can perhaps remeber...

On the other hand you have people who have been rideing 6months, and just passed there DAS, as the SV is still a bit scarey.

Horses for courses and all that, just something to think about.... Who is safer, an experanced rider at 130 or a new rider at 70?

Dan

Akula
15-04-06, 07:20 PM
no but I am pointing out that 20mph over the posted limit is no better that 60mph over the posted limit, yet people will be let off for that and banned for 60mph over the limit.

Ermm dunno about that tbh, dont you think riding 60mph over the limit you are more likely to kill/injure yourself or others rather than 20mph... i dont see the logic in that statement.

As for Exactly, there are quite a few people on here on ride "Mega Miles" for bikers, i.e. 15k+ a year. (at least 3 times what an "average" bike is expected to do i seem to remeber.) Lots of people have had had advanced training, IAM/RoSPA. And have ridden for more years than they can perhaps remeber...

On the other hand you have people who have been rideing 6months, and just passed there DAS, as the SV is still a bit scarey.

Horses for courses and all that, just something to think about.... Who is safer, an experanced rider at 130 or a new rider at 70?

I see what you mean and yes to a certain extent more experienced riders riding at 130mph MAY make better riders rather than those 6 mths into their DAS riding at 70mph, but its the unexpected i am more concerned about. We all know what its like when another vehicle or ****ty pedestrian jumps out when you are least expecting it. Im am not flaming or trying to be a killjoy about riding a bike, hell even i have put my foot down (not to 130mph :P, not on a bike anyway), and yes its FUN and exhilerating to ride a bike fast (thinking or knowing) you are in control. I just think 130mph is a tad over the mark and irresponsible imho, but hey live and let live and as said before if you get caught i hope that whomever takes the punishment on the chin. Just as an end i do think that the prescribed speed limits are a tad slow out of towns, but unfrotunately its not upto me to make those decisions :(

Ride safe y'allll

Scoobs
15-04-06, 08:06 PM
It would be rude to NOT max your bike at least once when conditions allow.

Only 130???

You big poof! :lol:

Shinsei Jutsu
15-04-06, 08:27 PM
There are risks?!?!?!?!!! Oh my god, I had no idea! That's it I quit biking! :roll: :lol:

kwak zzr
15-04-06, 08:40 PM
There are risks?!?!?!?!!! Oh my god, I had no idea! That's it I quit biking! :roll: :lol:

and smoking,
driving,
going to hospital,
walking on a footpath,
swimming,
drinking,
breathing,
eating,
ect !!


lets all lock ourselfs in a glass box's, just incase :wink:

valleyboy
15-04-06, 08:59 PM
heck.. I know for a fact that some of us on here have been faster than 130mph... :twisted:

Peter Henry
15-04-06, 09:19 PM
Yes but there are those who are a little keener to catch the hot chick on 1000 Road than others. :wink:

valleyboy
15-04-06, 09:31 PM
ahhh... this was no where near where those fluffy critters can get onto the roads... you have to be STUPID to try those speeds on that road... go much slower than 50mph on that road, and the police may have you for curb crawiling :lol:

Peter Henry
15-04-06, 09:34 PM
VB...No wonder you always carry a spare lid and a couple of bungee straps! :wink: :P

valleyboy
15-04-06, 09:36 PM
Thats for when I crash... spare lid as mine will be bust.. bungee's to strap my bike bits on the back :lol: :lol:

_Stretchie_
15-04-06, 09:49 PM
heck.. I know for a fact that some of us on here have been faster than 130mph... :twisted:

That is just stupid and irresponsible VB.. It's always you KerNOBS with IL4's that do that..

It wasn't against an Aston Martin was it???

Warren
16-04-06, 12:22 AM
there are old bikers, and there are bold bikers,

but there are no old bold bikers.


why not itchy boy, its your bike, your life, who am i to tell you how to ride it/live it ?



(i havent been on my bike today)

northwind
16-04-06, 12:26 AM
I have to admit, I strayed within the speed limit a couple of times today. Sheer carelessness, just wasn't watching the dial.

Warren
16-04-06, 12:38 AM
I have to admit, I strayed within the speed limit a couple of times today. Sheer carelessness, just wasn't watching the dial.

youve posted after me for the last 3 posts.

are you following me ?
or are you my alter-ego ?

northwind
16-04-06, 12:48 AM
I think it's a bit weird that you'd notice that to be honest...

Warren
16-04-06, 12:51 AM
I think it's a bit weird that you'd notice that to be honest...

just because your paranoid, doesnt mean that there not after you

:lol:

kwak zzr
16-04-06, 06:55 AM
heck.. I know for a fact that some of us on here have been faster than 130mph... :twisted:

i did a very stupid and inconsiderate speed when i had my cbr600 does this make me a bad boy :roll: oh please let it make me a bad boy :twisted:

busasean
16-04-06, 06:59 AM
i've had my Hayabusa flat out several times and dont give a toss what the holier than thou think. i do 45,000 miles per year and have 16 yrs no claims on my car and 8 on my bike, done my IAM and police bikesafe. i also work in construction, where last year there were more people killed on construction sites than british soldiers killed in iraq during the whole conflict. i'm aware of the risks and bloody carefull where i speed.

valleyboy
16-04-06, 07:00 AM
Well, all I say is, if there is a straight stretch of road infront of you.. no traffic to be seen... and no danger, no pedestrians.. nothing, zip, nada... it would be rude not to see what your bike can do... and incidently, I got to 150 and back down to 60 well within this straight stretch of road without having to touch the brakes.... now all you have to do is figure out if that was in mph or Kph :lol:

TC3
16-04-06, 07:09 AM
What i do not get is the bull**** some come up with. Fine you may find a stretch of road that is straight and clear but if you crash who is to say your crash wont have some sort of knock on effect to traffic behind?

I speed at times and am fully aware i could get myself killed but i know i am being irresponsible by doing so. It is the choice i choose to make

Warren
16-04-06, 07:29 AM
What i do not get is the bull**** some come up with. Fine you may find a stretch of road that is straight and clear but if you crash who is to say your crash wont have some sort of knock on effect to traffic behind?

I speed at times and am fully aware i could get myself killed but i know i am being irresponsible by doing so. It is the choice i choose to make

well said.

SVTONYB
16-04-06, 08:14 AM
What i do not get is the bull**** some come up with. Fine you may find a stretch of road that is straight and clear but if you crash who is to say your crash wont have some sort of knock on effect to traffic behind?

I speed at times and am fully aware i could get myself killed but i know i am being irresponsible by doing so. It is the choice i choose to make

well said.

Is it well said......someone expresses an opinion which you disagree with and it becomes bull****......well when I disagree I call it HORSE**** :wink:

TC3
16-04-06, 08:17 AM
What i do not get is the bull**** some come up with. Fine you may find a stretch of road that is straight and clear but if you crash who is to say your crash wont have some sort of knock on effect to traffic behind?

I speed at times and am fully aware i could get myself killed but i know i am being irresponsible by doing so. It is the choice i choose to make

well said.

Is it well said......someone expresses an opinion which you disagree with and it becomes bull****......well when I disagree I call it HORSE**** :wink:

Hmm gotta get my **** straight :lol:

SVTONYB
16-04-06, 08:24 AM
Its easter sunday......should it not be rabbit **** :roll:

SVTONYB
16-04-06, 08:41 AM
IMHO anything over 100 on a public road is selfish, irresponsible and unnecessary.

Have I exceeded that limit....yes of course......but only on the odd occassion and afterwards when I return home and see my kids and wife waiting for me I realise that my actions were selfish.

A lot of fun can be had between 70 and 100

kwak zzr
16-04-06, 08:43 AM
A lot of fun can be had between 70 and 100

its where i spend most of my time :wink:

SVTONYB
16-04-06, 08:48 AM
A lot of fun can be had between 70 and 100

its where i spend most of my time :wink:

Same here.....hope I dont bump into you there :wink:

Sudoxe
16-04-06, 08:59 AM
A lot of fun can be had between 70 and 100

its where i spend most of my time :wink:

Ah you do a lot of city work as well then...

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 09:01 AM
SVTONYB wrote:
A lot of fun can be had between 70 and 100

My Grandad tells me exactly the same thing! He is presently dating a rather frisky 85 year old blonde! :wink:

Flamin_Squirrel
16-04-06, 09:06 AM
Have I exceeded that limit....yes of course......but only on the odd occassion and afterwards when I return home and see my kids and wife waiting for me I realise that my actions were selfish.

Oh please :sick:

If you think speed is the most likely thing to get you killed and that you're safe if you dont then you're naive. If you want to be responsible, then sell your bike

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 09:15 AM
Not long ago I swung my leg over my bike without doing a life saver! :shock: Is there any limit to my irresponsibility? :?

Sudoxe
16-04-06, 09:20 AM
Not long ago I swung my leg over my bike without doing a life saver! :shock: Is there any limit to my irresponsibility? :?
And I rode my bike without any protective gear, no helmet, gloves, in jeans and teeshirt...

...into the garage from my driveway!

SVTONYB
16-04-06, 09:50 AM
If you think speed is the most likely thing to get you killed and that you're safe if you dont then you're naive. If you want to be responsible, then sell your bike

I smell ****E

SVTONYB
16-04-06, 09:51 AM
Not long ago I swung my leg over my bike without doing a life saver! :shock: Is there any limit to my irresponsibility? :?

:lol: :lol:

tj2
16-04-06, 09:54 AM
This place is getting to be crap............................

Are you motorcyclists or just a bunch of pc tossers????


You bought a bike you accept the risks, you speed you dont speed........



stop the bitching and get on with riding

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 10:04 AM
I take particular pleasure in readjusting my leathers in a most "Valentino Rossi" type manner whenever pulling away from traffic lights in a busy town with lots of onlookers around me.

Take that to the bank pc biking peeps! 8)

Saint Matt
16-04-06, 10:04 AM
LOL

haggis
16-04-06, 10:08 AM
I take particular pleasure in readjusting my leathers in a most "Valentino Rossi" type manner whenever pulling away from traffic lights in a busy town with lots of onlookers around me.

Take that to the bank pc biking peeps! 8)

Yeah but what are you adjusting them for?

Drag perhaps????? :shock:

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 10:10 AM
Haggis...But of course especially as I normally like to hit the ton in between sets of lights! :wink: Am I just too bad? :P

Balky001
16-04-06, 10:12 AM
I wear a dark visor when the light is not 100% perfect and sometimes I blink longer than I should. And I don't care at all!

haggis
16-04-06, 10:15 AM
You're not meant to sneeze whilst driving/riding, yet I have done this more than once and lived on.

There's a good reason for not doing this, especially with your lid on. I'll not go into the gory details. :sick:

Balky001
16-04-06, 10:22 AM
As I don't have a paddock stand I have to pull stoppies to adjust the chain or change the rear wheel. As you can imagine, to change the wheel requires a stoppie of at least a couple of miles and thus quiet a speed is achieved. All this is done in built up areas during the school run as I like a challenge. Is this wrong? I now feel after reading this thread that maybe I am being inconsiderate (this never crossed my mind before)

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 12:38 PM
I get particular pleasure from approaching pedestrian crossings with people walking across,by leaving my braking to the last second and finishing the manouvre with a carefully controlled "super moto" style rear end slide. Some of the panic reactions of some of the pedestrians always has me giggling a la Shakey Burnes under my helmet! :P 8)

Gnan
16-04-06, 01:10 PM
all these silly comments detract nothing from the fact that riding at 130 mph on roads in this country is inappropriate and irresponsible, and is mainly done by younger riders who think they are indestructible.

not only that but they are harming motorcycling as more and more people seem to see us as irresponsible speed-freaks, which only leads to government legislation (look at the new rules for obtaining a motorcycle license which will be introduced)

if people operated motorcycles REASONABLY within the law then i'm sure most of the problems people have with bikers would disappear, it's the extremeties that cause the problems, and 130mph on a public road is not reasonable, respectful, or responsible behaviour.

Anonymous
16-04-06, 01:31 PM
all these silly comments detract nothing from the fact that riding at 130 mph on roads in this country is inappropriate and irresponsible, and is mainly done by younger riders who think they are indestructible.

Absolute utter BOLLOX mate. Im young, have done 78000 miles in 2 years on bikes. Much more than most riders do in a lifetime. I dont think i am indestructable, ive seen my mates brain get spread pizza style over 200 yards of concrete when he was hit by a car driven by an older person.

I know the risks, i accept them, and i still ride fast. I ride fast cos i know my abilities and my limitations. I can read the road, know where and when to have a twist of the wrist moment.

I've seen many older rider, inexperienced, born again, come a cropper. AGE has sod all to do with it, experience has everything to do with it. Ask any motorcycle instructor/examiner, they will tell you that there is no substitute for time spent in the saddle.


if people operated motorcycles REASONABLY within the law then i'm sure most of the problems people have with bikers would disappear, it's the extremeties that cause the problems, and 130mph on a public road is not reasonable, respectful, or responsible behaviour.

Rubbish again. There will always be legislation against minority groups.

130 on a public road where there is a time and a place consideration is NOT a problem. Remember that speed doesnt kill, INNAPPROPRIATE speed kills.

Ceri JC
16-04-06, 01:41 PM
My POV on "silly speeds"; once or twice, just to experience them/to be able to say you've done it is great fun. If you only do it rarely (assuming your bike and skills are up to it and it's a reasonably appropriate road/time of day, etc.) you'll almost certainly get away with it. Do it every time you go out and you will come unstuck, be it caught by the police, or worse, a car will pull out, etc.

The danger is, you'll develop a taste for it and start doing it regularly, as a matter of course. We all know people who do 160 each time they get onto an open road and sadly, it doesn't matter how good you are, a car/tractor will pull out one day.

I'm the first to shout "Speed doesn't kill!" when people complain about doing a ton on a motorway or even a road you can see to be clear with nowhere for traffic to emerge from, but I must concede that doing 130+ is a bit different and it's very rare to get conditions anywhere other than on a motorway that you can stop in the distance you can see to be clear (in the UK).

Dicky Ticker
16-04-06, 01:44 PM
Gnan, As a matter of interest what speed do you normally ride at?

Be truthful

mysteryjimbo
16-04-06, 01:45 PM
I think people should just agree to disagree.

There ARE roads in the country which are perfectly safe for high speeds BUT only when appropriate and where there is not a danger to other road users who may be using the road at the time.

The problem occurs where there are other road users who can and do make the roads unsafe by doing the unexpected. This we can never get away from. If by the course of our riding we endanger ourselves then that is fine. If we endanger others we are a menace.

Riding over the speed limit is illegal regardless of safety. If we get caught we should accept the consequences.

northwind
16-04-06, 03:16 PM
Personally, I speed a lot, I just don't attempt to justify it.

amarko5
16-04-06, 03:49 PM
Personally, I speed a lot, I just don't attempt to justify it.

:thumbsup: :winner:

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 03:59 PM
Personally unless you like to occasionally let your bike "pin it's ears back " a touch, I don't understand what someone would see in biking. I don't mean to the extent of the speed mentioned at the top of this thread but the odd blat or a faster sweep though some bends? Oooh luvvly!

I know rules are rules blah,blah but that is FAR from the point. :wink:

*Carry on I am no doubt talking sh*te again! :P

amarko5
16-04-06, 04:00 PM
*Carry on I am no doubt talking sh*te again! :P

But what type of ****e :?: :lol:

Tim in Belgium
16-04-06, 04:43 PM
I just like the fact that you managed a glance down at the speedo, I wonder how many metres you covered in that time not seeing the road :wink:

Occasionally in the car on an empty (straight) road I'll shut my eyes for as long as I dare :shock:

Pointless thrill if ever there was one, not up for trying it on the bike, yet.

Keep feeling alive one and all.

Tim in Belgium
16-04-06, 04:57 PM
Quick thought, I've a GPS speedo that I use when i'm skiing, records current, average and max speed and will pop in the tank bag. So no need to check the speedo as silly speeds, super safe!




PS max speed on skis so far 105 km/h but plan to beat it next year!

Itching 2 go
16-04-06, 05:30 PM
Occasionally in the car on an empty (straight) road I'll shut my eyes for as long as I dare :shock:
.**** me your gonna Kill someone witrh behaviour like that and you admit to doing it makes it 10 times worse :shock:

philipMac
16-04-06, 05:45 PM
PS max speed on skis so far 105 km/h but plan to beat it next year!

That's 65 mph. That's quick. No idea what I have clocked on skis, I would be suprised if it was more than about 35mph. But, I clocked 50 mph on the push bike.

And, in fairness, that was absolutely terrifying. The bike is bouncing about on 100psi tyres so much that you cant really steer. You are trying to make some kind of suspension by hovering your **** just over the saddle, but you want to keep your center of balance as low as you can.

But, of course, if you actually came off, you would be totally fine, what with the hard wairing pair of lycra shorts, and short sleeved jersey.

Here Tim, where in Belgium are you from? Big dEUS head here ;) Saw them play a couple of weeks ago.

philipMac
16-04-06, 05:53 PM
oh yeah. My take on speeding on bikes.
Emm. I mean, I speed a lot. Basically always, when there isnt some cager in the way.

But, generally not more than a ton. I used to clock faster speeds in Ireland, here there are too many cars for that.

I would say that, as long as you understand that everything that happens when you are doing more than a ton say, is your fault. Everything. You just have to accept no matter what some retard cage driver does, it becomes your fault at these speeds. You just have to accept that, and I think most guys do.

Not that this matters either way if you are brown bread.

Its not cool though to embed your bike into some poor young ones Clio at 140mph though. Killing other people makes you as bad a speeder in a cage.

Even though I dont speed so much now, I like driving fast in the rain for some reason. I like feeling the bike sliding about under me a little bit. Because, its really scary. More scary than straight up speeding for me.

kwak zzr
16-04-06, 06:06 PM
Occasionally in the car on an empty (straight) road I'll shut my eyes for as long as I dare :shock:
.f*ck me your gonna Kill someone witrh behaviour like that and you admit to doing it makes it 10 times worse :shock:

this is not good :wink:

_Stretchie_
16-04-06, 07:41 PM
stop the bitching and get on with riding


Well done and well said this man...


Also can you tell what this is... I'll give you a clue, there's alot of them knocking around, especially on threads like this..


http://upload3.postimage.org/116124/HighHorse.jpg (http://upload3.postimage.org/116124/photo_hosting.html)

Mr Ed, smoking a joint... That's right, it's a HIGH HORSE..

(Ooops, what have I just started? Watch out for a thread about drug abuse now :lol: )

Last Action Pimp
16-04-06, 07:48 PM
Occasionally in the car on an empty (straight) road I'll shut my eyes for as long as I dare :shock:

Ooooh! the next - http://www.simcyberworld.com/pics/evil.JPG

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 08:07 PM
Hey when the local Old Bill ride like this:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5079/chantada0151qq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You have to be prepared to twist that grip a bit at times! :P :P

21QUEST
16-04-06, 08:10 PM
Hey when the local Old Bill ride like this:

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5079/chantada0151qq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You have to be prepared to twist that grip a bit at times! :P :P


You think so? Me think that would be enough to slow anyone down :lol: :wink:

Cheers
Ben

Dicky Ticker
16-04-06, 08:12 PM
Most unfair Sen Hendry,-----you didn't block out his No Plate

Still hasn't got his knee down though :lol:

Peter Henry
16-04-06, 08:15 PM
Just mac...If he leans any further both wheels will lift off the deck! I think he is going to loose his sandwiches out of the hole he is grinding in that pannier! :P

Joking apart...I have seen plenty of these guys go around bends pretty quickly without seemingly much lean at all.I can only guess that this boyo was flying when this pic was taken! 8)

21QUEST
16-04-06, 08:15 PM
Yeah but when you are riding a barge you don't want any increase in drag , you do :? :roll: :)

Cheers
Ben

lukemillar
17-04-06, 07:56 AM
When I was riding home last night, I realised something. I was on the M40 in the left hand land doing 70 and every single car was going faster than me in the other 2 lanes.

Speeding is black or white - either you have done it, or you haven't. I doubt that there isn't a single person on this planet who hasn't gone over the speed limit at least once in their life! Since we have the legal limit as our line in the sand, then it doesn't matter whether you are 2mph over or 60mph over - you are still breaking the law.

So as none of us are innocent, I don't see why anyone can argue that 130mph is irresponsible, becasue techincally everyone is irresponsible in the eyes of the law! Though in reality are we all irresponsible? I think not.

...and with that in mind I say - Joe, Game On! :lol:

Akula
17-04-06, 08:07 AM
:roll: round and round :roll:

chog
17-04-06, 08:42 AM
:lol: I must say that having read 7 pages of this thread it just seems to be going round in circles. :cry:

There are the safety experts who howl in protest :plod: =; saying ban him its reckless and a danger to all people and then there are the young stunt and speeding gods :laughat: (they think) who's brains haven't knitted toghether yet, that think you can do as you like :twisted:

at the end of the day no matter what people say or think it comes down to individual choice.
If they choose to do the speed then they accept the risk, if they get banned or kill themselves then thats the risk they accepted :cry:

But i would much sooner have the choice than a state where everything is strictly controlled by the pink slippers and lentil soup people.
Chog 8)