How do you work this out? - SV650.org

04-07-06, 08:48 PM

As a member of CSMA i get the magazine and always read the bikers world. Though this time I think ourharriet Ridley has lost the plot.

"learners are taught to dominate by staying three quaters out from the left curb"
I wasn't taught this has anybody else been taught this. We all probably do it now but taught it I'm not sure.

Best bikes for beginners - naked bike means they crash well(her exact words)
so look at the honda hornet 600 but don't look at the insurance!! SV is there

Though the best bit - "if you're forced to ride around on a restricted bike....big capacity bikes even 600's are not a good idea as power output will be limited to a meagre 12bhp

This women is meant to know what shes' talking about!! 12bhp is that not a scooter?? ANd she didn't mention a single 250/400

Discuss and opinonate

fizzwheel · 04-07-06, 08:54 PM

I got taught to ride in the middle of the road. I got complained at during my DAS as I had been riding a 125 for about 6 months and had got used to riding in the right hand wheel tracks of cars.

You can ride anything up to 12bhp restricted on your CBT. I think though that at 16 you are stuck on a 50 or a scotter. The 12bhp thing only comes into effect when you are 17 or over and thats all you can ride. Anything bigger means taking a full test or if you are 17 a 33bhp restricted test. I doubt very much you'd be able to restrict a Hornet or the such like to 12bhp. I think....

As for Harriet, when she worked for T.W.O. she talked / wrote total rubbish then as well IMHO. I used to ignore her article's.

04-07-06, 08:59 PM

Three quarters out from the kerb and someone will under take you I did a bike safe and the policeman that followed me said to dominate your lane by riding down the centre, As for 12hp that's the max output for a 125. She doesn't know what she is talking about and should do some more research be for submitting her articles!!!!

04-07-06, 09:09 PM

I've decide to complain as Biker's only get two pages and this time is two pages of s***. If the letter get printed I'll post it

04-07-06, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

You can ride anything up to 12bhp restricted on your CBT.

I think though that at 16 you are stuck on a 50 or a scotter. The 12bhp thing only comes into effect when you are 17 or over and thats all you can ride. Anything bigger means taking a full test or if you are 17 a 33bhp restricted test. I doubt very much you'd be able to restrict a Hornet or the such like to 12bhp. I think....

CBT allows you up to a 125cc with no power specified. You can not ride anything bigger than a 125 and restrict it on a CBT.

If youre 17 and take your test on a 125 you can either go for the A1 or the A.
The A1 is no more than a 125cc bike [similar to CBT] and restricted to 14.6bhp.

The A is any bike restricted to 33 bhp. Normally you would only get an A1 if you sat the test on anything less than 120cc. Note btw theres also a power/weight restriction to 0.16 kw/Kg on the restricted license A bikes too.

From: http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/rdmcy...sic%20Training

04-07-06, 09:52 PM

Don't ride 3/4 do two thirds instead — it'll give you a better view of the road ahead and doesn't normally allow enough room for a car to creep up on the inside (but as you always use your mirrors and know what's behind you that's not a problem, right?

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04-07-06, 11:22 PM

Just did my training and test... was told stick to the middle of the road.

05-07-06, 06:42 AM

1/2, 3/4s, hah!

Dominate your lane by using all of it. Change your position if required for each hazard as it presents itself.

Very rarely is any road so straight and completely free of potential hazards as to allow you to sit in one spot - unless there's noone else on the road, in which case the only thing you are dominating is yourself. Whatever floats your boat!

From those quotes you've posted Quedos, I'd have thought it was written by a regular cager rather thlan someone who is supposed to have a meager amount of knowledge of motorbikes.

Damn right you should complain.

05-07-06, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K

Dominate your lane by using all of it. Change your position if required for each hazard as it presents itself.

05-07-06, 08:46 AM

Learners can ride upto a 125cc machine with a power output of no more than 14.6bhp.

What the hell is that woman on. And she used to work for a bike mag?!! Jeez.

As for the lane position thing I was taught to ride 2 thirds in the lane from the kerb. But once I passed and did advanced that all changed, now my riding position varies depending on the road. I.e for a left hand bend I will move out to the white line to get a better view of what is round the bend, for a right hand bend I will move in towards the kerb. It's funny, you get taught all this stuff that you 'have' to do on your test and as soon as you do advanced riding you get taught somethign totally different (overtaking on roundabouts and apexing come to mind).

04-07-06, 08:48 PM	#1
Quedos Guest Posts: n/a	How do you work this out? As a member of CSMA i get the magazine and always read the bikers world. Though this time I think ourharriet Ridley has lost the plot. "learners are taught to dominate by staying three quaters out from the left curb" I wasn't taught this has anybody else been taught this. We all probably do it now but taught it I'm not sure. Best bikes for beginners - naked bike means they crash well(her exact words) so look at the honda hornet 600 but don't look at the insurance!! SV is there Though the best bit - "if you're forced to ride around on a restricted bike....big capacity bikes even 600's are not a good idea as power output will be limited to a meagre 12bhp This women is meant to know what shes' talking about!! 12bhp is that not a scooter?? ANd she didn't mention a single 250/400 Discuss and opinonate

04-07-06, 08:54 PM	#2
fizzwheel Super Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,614	Re: How do you work this out? I got taught to ride in the middle of the road. I got complained at during my DAS as I had been riding a 125 for about 6 months and had got used to riding in the right hand wheel tracks of cars. You can ride anything up to 12bhp restricted on your CBT. I think though that at 16 you are stuck on a 50 or a scotter. The 12bhp thing only comes into effect when you are 17 or over and thats all you can ride. Anything bigger means taking a full test or if you are 17 a 33bhp restricted test. I doubt very much you'd be able to restrict a Hornet or the such like to 12bhp. I think.... As for Harriet, when she worked for T.W.O. she talked / wrote total rubbish then as well IMHO. I used to ignore her article's. __________________ Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. K5 GSXR 750 Anniversary Edition

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04-07-06, 08:59 PM	#3
BILLY Guest Posts: n/a	Three quarters out from the kerb and someone will under take you I did a bike safe and the policeman that followed me said to dominate your lane by riding down the centre, As for 12hp that's the max output for a 125. She doesn't know what she is talking about and should do some more research be for submitting her articles!!!!

04-07-06, 09:09 PM	#4
Quedos Guest Posts: n/a	I've decide to complain as Biker's only get two pages and this time is two pages of s***. If the letter get printed I'll post it

04-07-06, 09:52 PM	#6
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	Don't ride 3/4 do two thirds instead — it'll give you a better view of the road ahead and doesn't normally allow enough room for a car to creep up on the inside (but as you always use your mirrors and know what's behind you that's not a problem, right? ). .

04-07-06, 11:22 PM	#7
Abyss Guest Posts: n/a	Just did my training and test... was told stick to the middle of the road.

05-07-06, 06:42 AM	#8
K Guest Posts: n/a	1/2, 3/4s, hah! Dominate your lane by using all of it. Change your position if required for each hazard as it presents itself. Very rarely is any road so straight and completely free of potential hazards as to allow you to sit in one spot - unless there's noone else on the road, in which case the only thing you are dominating is yourself. Whatever floats your boat! From those quotes you've posted Quedos, I'd have thought it was written by a regular cager rather thlan someone who is supposed to have a meager amount of knowledge of motorbikes. Damn right you should complain.

05-07-06, 08:46 AM	#10
DanAbnormal Guest Posts: n/a	Learners can ride upto a 125cc machine with a power output of no more than 14.6bhp. What the hell is that woman on. And she used to work for a bike mag?!! Jeez. As for the lane position thing I was taught to ride 2 thirds in the lane from the kerb. But once I passed and did advanced that all changed, now my riding position varies depending on the road. I.e for a left hand bend I will move out to the white line to get a better view of what is round the bend, for a right hand bend I will move in towards the kerb. It's funny, you get taught all this stuff that you 'have' to do on your test and as soon as you do advanced riding you get taught somethign totally different (overtaking on roundabouts and apexing come to mind).