Who's next for the ignition advancer tool? - SV650.org

northwind · 14-12-04, 05:58 PM

Jonboy? Weegaz? you two were first in the list last time IIRC, let me know if you're still wanting a loan. Anyone else, let me know too

14-12-04, 06:48 PM

Yes please.

Just PM'd you.

.

14-12-04, 07:18 PM

Exactly what will this do? Did you get the carb balancer btw?

14-12-04, 08:14 PM

Can't I just use a stock 1.25 rotor puller?

northwind · 14-12-04, 08:17 PM

Jonboy wins a lend of the advancer, once the last guy's done with it

Andrew, the ignition advancer's wicked... Don't know how it works exactly, but it's a wee tiny bit of metal the size of a toenail clipping that you stick into the end of something, possibly the crankshaft, and- well, there's dyno charts on the JHS site for it. The part costs £20, but you need a new alternator cover gasket for it, and a special rotor puller tool that cost me £25 IIRC but which is verrrry sloooowly doing the rounds on a permanent lendout...

Basically, a power boost, plus the torque comes on much much earlier in the range. JHS shows a 3hp boost all acrss the rev band, which doesn't totally match my own experience, but then my dyno run in question was made with terrible jetting and so doesn't count. I didn't see anythingon the top end, but the midrange boost is excellent, great for town riding.

May wear the engine faster and increases the likelihood of detonation/preignition/etc, apparently, but I've had absolutely no downsides.

Still no carb balancer, Sid Squid put me off a little as he knows far more about that sort of stuff than me, and then it occurred to me that since it's going in for a rejet once I finally do the cams, the shop'll check all that sort of stuff for me anyway... I'll be looking for an Ebay one, I think.

northwind · 14-12-04, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burner

Can't I just use a stock 1.25 rotor puller?

Absolutely no idea

There's definately at least one generic rotor puller that works, I got the suzuki one because it's easy to find... You could just use a great big hardened bolt if you find one in the right sizes, after all.

14-12-04, 08:31 PM

£25- for yours? From Suzuki themselves?
MandP do a 4 size X shape rotor puller for about £19- I think.....

northwind · 14-12-04, 08:36 PM

Think so, aye. Couldn't say for sure, but that sounds about right. From a Suzuki dealer, I got the part number from somewhere, SV Rider I think, and ordered it the same way as spares.

14-12-04, 08:41 PM

Well crimbo is on the way and my "From-me-to-me" gift list is growing.
Need more bike stuff for the toolbox anyway.

northwind · 14-12-04, 08:57 PM

Know what you mean... Just recently I've aquired a reaaaaaalllly long screwdriver, whose only purpose ever will be to undo the clamp on the front carb

When I first started meddling with my Virago all I had to hand was a 10-piece socket set from Machine Mart, a couple of adjustables, and whatever dogeared tools I could nick off my dad

Now I have a whole toolkit marked full of "occasional" tools like stud pullers, screw extractors, centrepunches, oil filter wrenches. I feel like a proper man, Tim Allan style

14-12-04, 05:58 PM	#1
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Who's next for the ignition advancer tool? Jonboy? Weegaz? you two were first in the list last time IIRC, let me know if you're still wanting a loan. Anyone else, let me know too __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

14-12-04, 08:17 PM	#5
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Jonboy wins a lend of the advancer, once the last guy's done with it Andrew, the ignition advancer's wicked... Don't know how it works exactly, but it's a wee tiny bit of metal the size of a toenail clipping that you stick into the end of something, possibly the crankshaft, and- well, there's dyno charts on the JHS site for it. The part costs £20, but you need a new alternator cover gasket for it, and a special rotor puller tool that cost me £25 IIRC but which is verrrry sloooowly doing the rounds on a permanent lendout... Basically, a power boost, plus the torque comes on much much earlier in the range. JHS shows a 3hp boost all acrss the rev band, which doesn't totally match my own experience, but then my dyno run in question was made with terrible jetting and so doesn't count. I didn't see anythingon the top end, but the midrange boost is excellent, great for town riding. May wear the engine faster and increases the likelihood of detonation/preignition/etc, apparently, but I've had absolutely no downsides. Still no carb balancer, Sid Squid put me off a little as he knows far more about that sort of stuff than me, and then it occurred to me that since it's going in for a rejet once I finally do the cams, the shop'll check all that sort of stuff for me anyway... I'll be looking for an Ebay one, I think. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

14-12-04, 08:36 PM	#8
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Think so, aye. Couldn't say for sure, but that sounds about right. From a Suzuki dealer, I got the part number from somewhere, SV Rider I think, and ordered it the same way as spares. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

14-12-04, 08:57 PM	#10
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Know what you mean... Just recently I've aquired a reaaaaaalllly long screwdriver, whose only purpose ever will be to undo the clamp on the front carb When I first started meddling with my Virago all I had to hand was a 10-piece socket set from Machine Mart, a couple of adjustables, and whatever dogeared tools I could nick off my dad Now I have a whole toolkit marked full of "occasional" tools like stud pullers, screw extractors, centrepunches, oil filter wrenches. I feel like a proper man, Tim Allan style __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

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14-12-04, 06:48 PM	#2
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	Yes please. Just PM'd you. .

14-12-04, 07:18 PM	#3
snoopy Guest Posts: n/a	Exactly what will this do? Did you get the carb balancer btw?

14-12-04, 08:14 PM	#4
BURNER Guest Posts: n/a	Can't I just use a stock 1.25 rotor puller?

14-12-04, 08:31 PM	#7
BURNER Guest Posts: n/a	£25- for yours? From Suzuki themselves? MandP do a 4 size X shape rotor puller for about £19- I think.....

14-12-04, 08:41 PM	#9
BURNER Guest Posts: n/a	Well crimbo is on the way and my "From-me-to-me" gift list is growing. Need more bike stuff for the toolbox anyway.