It's another Poll! ;-) WIKILEAKS....

[MisterTommyH]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

#dons tinfoil hat#

It's interesting how there is suddenly a UK arrest warrent out for the guy on a completely unrelated charge.

Just happened to come out in the same week that all this went high profile.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

US coercing Spain into awarding a £200m military contract to GE when legitimately it should have gone to BAE

Released today in the cables, if you were looking...

Fair enough, but simesb was saying about the goverments lying to us but couldnt give examples, but you said, read his post then answered my question to him, for him.
People if your gonna jump on the bandwagon and believe everything you hear, then at least have some evidence to back it up.
Too much scaremongering going around imo.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Tommy H

Whichever party got into power they would keep secrets of one form or the other.

Not the big three anyway - unfortunately people are more concerned by how much they'll keep in benefits/tax cuts rather than more esoteric concepts, such is human nature...

Do you actually believe that the plans would change from party to party?
I believe in one plan one government and loads of smoke screens to stop people getting to the truth!

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Obviously there is a line that can be crossed when lying to your public, but Tony Blair and Gordon Brown did that, and they are no longer in office.

As much as i hate them and labour, i firmly believe they thought they were doing the right thing based on the 'evidence' presented to them (probably by wikileaks lol)

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Tommy H

It's interesting how there is suddenly a UK arrest warrent out for the guy on a completely unrelated charge.

Just happened to come out in the same week that all this went high profile.

There is no such thing as a coincidence.

Maybe this guy has been sat on this info for months and only released it now knowing he's going to get nicked soon.

Originally Posted by specialone

Fair enough, but simesb was saying about the goverments lying to us but couldnt give examples, but you said, read his post then answered my question to him, for him.
People if your gonna jump on the bandwagon and believe everything you hear, then at least have some evidence to back it up.
Too much scaremongering going around imo.

Scaremongering like the government needing to detain people without charge or legitimate reason just in case they're terrorists?



"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

[kaivalagi]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I was more thinking about commando styleh stuff really, like people seem to think is about to happen to all those sites listed in that document
You know, by all those organised, well armed, completely secret groups of fanatics stationed about the country just waiting for such an opportunity..

lol, that's not was I was thinking if that's what you are getting at. I personally asked what benefit was there in leaking information on locations like that? Media histeria? Where are wikileak's ethics?
Have a good night's discussion

Originally Posted by specialone

Too much scaremongering going around imo.

And most of it coming from governments claiming lives are being put at risk.

[MisterTommyH]

Originally Posted by specialone

As much as i hate them and labour, i firmly believe they thought they were doing the right thing based on the 'evidence' presented to them (probably by wikileaks lol)

Me too! At least blair anyway. I think Brown was just power hungry. Amazing that so many more tory supporters now support what they did than labour supporters.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Scaremongering like the government needing to detain people without charge or legitimate reason just in case they're terrorists?

Yeah but im sure they didnt just pluck totally innocent people off the street did they?
They obviously flagged up for something after being watched for a while, or id like to think that was the case anyway.