How to fit Emulators to a pointy

Originally Posted by flymo

that isnt the issue here

It is kinda the issue here. He makes the spacers and does the rod mods. So is specifically mentioned him for this reason. Thanks for the info though, could save me some money although it would be re-assuring to also hear if others have done the same.

Cheers

Ronnie

[flymo]

Originally Posted by Runako

It is kinda the issue here. He makes the spacers and does the rod mods. So is specifically mentioned him for this reason. Thanks for the info though, could save me some money although it would be re-assuring to also hear if others have done the same.

Cheers

Ronnie

Entirely possible that the spacers are being confused here. The preload spacers exist at the top of the fork assembly, its entirely normal to replace the stock set with custom made replacements to a particular length. This lets you achieve a good middle setting for preload with the external preload adjuster in the middle of its adjustment range.

The 'other' spacers here are the ones I am questioning. The OP made an additional set that fits between the damper rods and the new emulators, it is these that I am suggesting are not necessary, and indeed that I do not think YC uses either when he fits them.

Originally Posted by flymo

Entirely possible that the spacers are being confused here.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I make the spacers to be a press fit in top of rods, it's much easier to do with the rods that you're going to use there, as that alleviates the hassle of "you sent me these and they don't go in" etc.

Originally Posted by Hornstar

With the pointy, the emulators won't drop straight in due to the damper rod being a little wider. Therefore spacers have to be made up to hold the emulator in place. I think I heard YC can do the spacers but don't want to go volunteering him.

This is what I read.

[MJC-DEV]

Pointies need a spacer on top of the damper rod to hold the emulator in place centrally. The bushing on the emulator is too small for the pointy damper rod hole so can fail to seal properly (outside diameter is ok). I've never heard of a pointy being modied without a spacer, but as others have made these spacers (I had them made by a friend) they would be best to give the diemensions of both parts so you can see the mismatch. Curvies have a smaller hole in top of the damper rod.
The stock top of spring spacer is left unchanged for a pointy and cut for a curvey due to presence of pre-load adjuster or not

I've edited my post regarding the 'spacer' and its dimensions, its now called an adaptor , needed on the pointy to reduce the diameter of the top of the damping rod from the 27.0mm down to the emulators 23.9mm. If you don't fit this adaptor to reduce the diameter then the emulator will not be kept central in the damping rod and will be like a pr*ck-in-a-bucket! Probably won't seal too well either as if its over one side then some oil can get past unrestricted and it won't function right. I'll add some pics to show it all.

[flymo]

Originally Posted by Runako

This is what I read.

Right, so I can understand the logic of this when wanting to return a modified set by mail order, it simplifies the refitting and saves you messing up when you get them back.

As you can see here though, this is how they are designed to fit. http://www.racetech.com/download/IP_FEGV_FIT_web.pdf

I can assure you they work just fine like this. I've done enough laps to know. If you have these 'adapters' available then go ahead, I cant see them doing any harm. But, I stand by my original statement, they aren't necessary.

You mentioned above that they don't drop straight in on a pointy, I can confirm that they do.

A question though, how do the measurements of the debrix copies compare to the RaceTech items? As I understand it the Debrix ones are not actually designed to fit the SV but the Harley, it just so happens that they are close enough to the SV sizes and possible that they may benefit from a set of custom adapters.

This is the best post I've ever seen

Helps me cause I'm more a visual person. I also now see clearly why the "adapter" is needed. If only I had your skills.

Btw, that bike is far too clean and lacks sufficient bumps or scratches

Thanks again!

No problem Runako, hope it helps people looking to do this mod. Like i said, its just how i did it.
That last pic makes my tank look awful tho Camera flash highlighted all the dust on it, i was trying to show my preload adjusters wound out fully. Bike is still a very tidy example, should be as its only 6mths old!

[mikerj]

Originally Posted by flymo

I can assure you they work just fine like this. I've done enough laps to know. If you have these 'adapters' available then go ahead, I cant see them doing any harm. But, I stand by my original statement, they aren't necessary.

You mentioned above that they don't drop straight in on a pointy, I can confirm that they do.

A question though, how do the measurements of the debrix copies compare to the RaceTech items? As I understand it the Debrix ones are not actually designed to fit the SV but the Harkey, it just so happens that they are close enough that they happen to and benefit from a set of custom adapters.

Why do you suppose that Racetech have two different part numbers for the SV650 emulator? It's because the curvy emulator does not correctly fit the pointy forks, no matter what you may think. The emulator is designed to fit closely into the end of the damper rod so it is positively located and will seal correctly under all conditions. Feel free to bodge your own forks, but please don't suggest this is the correct way to do things as it simply isn't.

Urbanfireblade: nice job on the forks and a great set of pictures. I would suggest that you make the adapters a generous clearance fit on the emulators however, because if you ever want to adjust them then you want to be sure they will locate themselves into the end of the damper rods correctly when you drop them back into the forks.

Fantastic job urbanfireblade- well done.

All I need now is a step by step guide to a curvy emulator install -- Any takers ?