Do teachers work less hours?

[andrewsmith]

I'll admit that i've looked at the link.
That is true, but Pookie beat me to it, goes for more than teaching. I've done from 6 to 8pm for no extra pay to get a handover done

Originally Posted by andrewsmith

I'll admit that i've looked at the link.
That is true, but Pookie beat me to it, goes for more than teaching. I've done from 6 to 8pm for no extra pay to get a handover done

If you have an opinion then...

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Votey in da poll please! ^^^^^^^^^^^

I'd like to try and end up with a poll that reflects the orgs perception on the matter (perception being prior to reading the article, whether or not the article changes anybody's mind). If people just post an opinion in the thread but don't vote, we'll never get a reflecting poll result. Ta!

[MisterTommyH]

Not read the link yet. I have a lot of teacher friends and I reckon it balances out during the year.. (No poll optionn so won't vote)... Lots of work taken home for marking at certain times during term, but LOTS of holidays to balance it out. And yes some work does get done during hols, but not full time.

I also reckon that as you get more experianced and have your lesson plans from previous years you can recycle these (not saying not prepare, but certainly not starting from scratch as they are in early years).

The problem is that while good teacher do this work, there are also bad teachers who don't bother. And there is no recourse to tackle these bad teachers. None of my teacher friends could tell me when they heard of someone being disciplined / sacked for being rubbish (can you tell this has been discussed a lot).

Finally, I wouldn't want the job for all the world.

Edit:

TOP 10 'HARD-WORKING' PROFESSIONS

1. Production managers and directors of mining and energy firms - 49.6 hours
2. Teachers 48.3 hours
3. Advertising & PR directors - 42.2 hours
4. Financial Institution managers & directors - 40.9 hours
5. IT Engineers - 39.0 hours
6. Chief Executive Officers and solicitors - 38.5 hours
7. Medical practitioners 38.4 hours
8. HR managers & directors -38 hours
9. Barristers & judges - 36 hours
10. Accountants - 35.6 hours

I think they may have made the mistake of assuming that all other workers only work their contracted hours while teachers are the only ones taking work home or working over.

[Fallout]

Surely it depends on what they teach. English teachers may have to read lots of books, creative writing etc. But games teachers? What have they go to prepare? Math teachers? Every math lesson I had as a kid was going through text books and past paper. Drama teachers?

I would think that certain subjects are hardcore but many are much less so. If you're going to be a teacher, choose your subject wisely!

All the hours spent at home marking books and exam papers?

The problem is that while good teacher do this work, there are also bad teachers who don't bother. And there is no recourse to tackle these bad teachers. None of my teacher friends could tell me when they heard of someone being disciplined / sacked for being rubbish (can you tell this has been discussed a lot).

There are now. The government have brought in new performance management procedures starting this September which mean that all teachers are monitored, through lesson observations etc, much more than ever before. Effectively a 'bad' teacher could find themselves jobless within a few weeks rather than months now - which isn't a bad thing but an already very stressful job just went up several notches.

And I have worked outside of teaching in several different jobs. I didn't really have a clue what fully fledged teaching was truly like even after a lot of voluntary work while at 6th form, and four years of teaching degree. The real-world classroom is a long way away from what almost everyone imagines it to be.
And working loco parentis for 30 children five days a week... 13 weeks holiday is a necessity.

It's very hard work and can make you sad quickly. The new performance management stuff is a disgrace and hopefully won't get passed by the unions. But at the moment i'm just happy to have a job!

[Bri w]

I've seen my mate's wife, a primary school teacher, grafting away many evenings. No they don't have an easy time but so what. I know how many hours I put in, and how many hours my engineers put in. There's no such thing as an easy life for the vast majority of workers these days.

Originally Posted by chezvegas85

i was going to read the link, then i saw 'dailymail.co.uk', sorry, i just can't bring myself to do it. The line has to be drawn somewhere

Spot on

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Bri w

I've seen my mate's wife, a primary school teacher, grafting away many evenings. No they don't have an easy time but so what. I know how many hours I put in, and how many hours my engineers put in. There's no such thing as an easy life for the vast majority of workers these days.

Good point.If all employers actually had to pay their workers for all the hours put in,a lot of "ordinary" people would be on a lot of money.