Has Anyone Used Ipone R4000 RS Engine oil

Originally Posted by timwilky

I am not an expert, but I would suggest you stop using that and hope your clutch has not been damaged. It looks like a mineral oil for "older" cars that don't require advanced oils.

The SV spec is API grade SF or SG. which is quite an old/low spec dating from the late 80s. However, the semi synths and full synth have better qualities in terms of film shear, life, cold start lubrication etc.

how about this one?

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0257960

Ive only done around 100 miles on the Mineral type.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by timwilky

I am not an expert, but I would suggest you stop using that and hope your clutch has not been damaged. It looks like a mineral oil for "older" cars that don't require advanced oils.

The SV spec is API grade SF or SG. which is quite an old/low spec dating from the late 80s. However, the semi synths and full synth have better qualities in terms of film shear, life, cold start lubrication etc.

The clutch slipping additives are in the lighter oils, you're alright with 10w40. Also just cleaning the plates off sorts them...

However I'd stop using the wilkos stuff on the basis that it's cheap crap!

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

The clutch slipping additives are in the lighter oils, you're alright with 10w40. Also just cleaning the plates off sorts them...

However I'd stop using the wilkos stuff on the basis that it's cheap crap!

Ok, Ive just bought some Halfords Semi-synthetic 10W 40 motorcycle oil (£22.00!!),
This one:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...d=-1&source=td
shall I change the Wilco's stuff? or leave it till next oil change?

[yorkie_chris]

Be right for 500 miles or so probably, the cheaper stuff doesn't hold it's viscosity well.

Then again I'm not entirely convinced the halfrauds stuff will be too much better

I use motul 5100 10w40, never had a problem with it.

[jambo]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Be right for 500 miles or so probably, the cheaper stuff doesn't hold it's viscosity well.

Then again I'm not entirely convinced the halfrauds stuff will be too much better

I use motul 5100 10w40, never had a problem with it.

Let me put it like this. Halfords don't make engine oil, so they buy it from someone. So the only thing that matters are the ratings on the back. It's rated for JASO, and API SH. That's higher that quite a few well known brands. I assure you it'll be up to the task. I've been using it for a bit in the ZX6 on track, and on the continent as well as the commute, still looks fine to me after 4,500 miles (overdue oil change for the ZX6 this week).

The Ipone R400 oil i am on about is used in Moto GP. I have a friend who can get me some cheap. it should be £40.00 for 4L he can get it me for £20.00 for 4L

[Spanner Man]

Morning all.

I just love these oil debates, as they usually start some handbag flinging!.

The main problem when assessing an oils performance is that any shortcomings in an oils ability to prevent wear are often not apparent for several thousand miles. With most motorcycles covering a pretty paltry annual mileage, a lot of people assume that because they are using a cheap oil & have had no wear issues that the oil is up to the job.

My recommendation, unless you're fiscally challenged (skint) is to use a bike specific oil, & a semi-synthetic at least. In my opinion nowadays there's little difference in the quality of any bike specific oil from the major manufacturers.

As an ex courier who has been piddling around with motorbikes for in excess of 30 years, I would take any claim of telephone number mileages using spry crisp & dry as a lubricant with a giant pinch of salt. I worked with a guy who claimed that his ex plod R80 BMW had done over 500k. It turned out that he had 3 engines & 4 gearboxes that he would rebuild & rotate as necessary when the current incumbent was clapped out. Not quite the same as an engine that has done over 200k without a strip down eh.
He also had an incredible pile of cycle parts, such as forks, wheels etc, so the only original bit on his bike was probably the frame.


Cheers.

[Sid Squid]

Ipone is well a known brand on the continent, if not so well known here.

As with any oil check that is meets the specs that the machine's maker requires, the oil you're referring to does, so yes, it will be fine.

Originally Posted by Spanner Man

He also had an incredible pile of cycle parts, such as forks, wheels etc, so the only original bit on his bike was probably the frame.


Cheers.

sounds like Triggers brush, "Had this brush 30 years... only had three handles and six heads!"