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Old 25-01-07, 09:41 AM   #21
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Perhaps somebody can say if it's me. Am I losing touch?

I find a lot of the views on here disturbing, to put it mildly - and I take profound exception to them too. I've edited what I originally typed so as to avoid being inflammatory and so as to comply with forum rule 3.
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Old 25-01-07, 09:43 AM   #22
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Perhaps somebody can say if it's me. Am I losing touch?

I find a lot of the views on here disturbing, to put it mildly - and I take profound exception to them too. I've edited what I originally typed so as to avoid being inflammatory and so as to comply with forum rule 3.
You aint alone mate, I've purposefully not posted here before now.

Far as I can see, people are welcome to their opinions, and I'll leave it there
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Old 25-01-07, 09:54 AM   #23
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The concept must stir some thought?? That is the initial idea ... ok so I have kinda tongue in cheek taken it to the n-th degree, but even still .. you are allowed to simply say "Na we are fine" ... that is your opinion ...
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Old 25-01-07, 09:55 AM   #24
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It has been mentioned several times over not just in this thread about the benefits some 'chav's ' receive by sponging off the state. IE: Council flat, weekly Giro, CSA, etc etc.

As much I don't like to see it go on and it does annoy me that there are many people to lazy to lift a finger and work or support their own child or family, I in some way pity these people for having no
self respect or will to better themselves. Or put it another way, they don't aspire to achieve anything.

Now the likes of you me work, pay our bills, pay our tax and we always seeking to get that extra bit in life, like go see another country and take in its culture. Or save to get that new model Gixxer or save up to go on holiday etc. Whereas the chav element will never experience any of that.

I don't know if what I've written makes sense but does someone see what I'm saying?
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Old 25-01-07, 09:56 AM   #25
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The concept must stir some thought?? That is the initial idea ... ok so I have kinda tongue in cheek taken it to the n-th degree, but even still .. you are allowed to simply say "Na we are fine" ... that is your opinion ...
A discussion about the evolution of humans is very different to a discussion about culling elements of society (based on any criteria), in my opinion.

Afterall, wars have been fought because of someone wanting to cull elements of society in the past.
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Old 25-01-07, 10:20 AM   #26
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DanDare - You might not care (or only pity), but I actually deeply begrudge supporting these people you mention!! It is throttling my achievements having to support them. I don’t get a say in the matter either!! I think thems that want to support these people should be able to, but thems that don’t shouldn’t be forced …

Anyway, ok DanDare&Baph, lets not take the culling any further, as you are right, that is a minefield and not really where I originally intended this thread to go … but I do feel there’s a reverse evolution issue here …

So I am really saying should we as a species bring back some form of ‘natural selection’ before we crawl back into the oceans??
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Old 25-01-07, 10:31 AM   #27
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Far from suggesting it is right, but it would be interesting to see if certain elements of the community would nurture and tolerate children better if we were restricted to the amount we could have.

I hate to say it but it seems at times that some people see children as a free meal instead of the gift that they are. (I know mine drive me mad a lot of the time, but I always remember how lucky I am! )

But then this leads to the issue of how do you control it, and at the end of the day it is (in my opinion) inhumane for us to restrict life, that is not what life is about .......... if that makes sense ?
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Old 25-01-07, 10:33 AM   #28
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DanDare - You might not care (or only pity), but I actually deeply begrudge supporting these people you mention!! It is throttling my achievements having to support them. I don’t get a say in the matter either!! I think thems that want to support these people should be able to, but thems that don’t shouldn’t be forced …

Anyway, ok DanDare&Baph, lets not take the culling any further, as you are right, that is a minefield and not really where I originally intended this thread to go … but I do feel there’s a reverse evolution issue here …

So I am really saying should we as a species bring back some form of ‘natural selection’ before we crawl back into the oceans??
Whoa! Hang on a minute, at no point did I say that I didn't mind supporting them I merely pointed out that I pitied their small dull uninteresting lives.

And secondly, I never mentioned anything to do with culling...........

........Get you facts straight!
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Old 25-01-07, 10:34 AM   #29
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So I am really saying should we as a species bring back some form of ‘natural selection’ before we crawl back into the oceans??
In order to do that, we'd have to scrap most (if not all) of the Human Rights laws, and to do that, we'd have to split from the EU.

IMO, that might not be a bad thing either, but perhaps that's getting a little too political.

Culling definitely isn't the answer. But also, forgetting the fact that you don't like having to support elements of society (neither do I really, but it's not for me to decide where tax money gets spent), when things like global warming are taken into account, an answer is definitely needed. Maybe the global warming thing is just mother nature's way of enforcing 'natural selection' upon us all, in a non discriminatory way. Those that have the resources (physical/mental/financial etc) will survive, those that don't (and that could be all of us), won't.

Perhaps living on the moon (or eventually Mars) might help, but chances are that's so far away from happening that it may be too late.
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Old 25-01-07, 10:42 AM   #30
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Perhaps living on the moon (or eventually Mars) might help, **yadda yadda**
And I will be queen...








Reverse evolving.... Woohoo! We're revolving! \/
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