Scottoiler

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Not if fitted and adjusted correctly. It should be apparent that when using spray lube that you must load up the chain with spray so it will last a while, this isn't the case with a Scottoiler - it drops a little on the chain all the time so it shouldn't be adjusted such that the chain is dripping with oil - if there's significant fling it's set too high.

a little but often is how i use chain lube and the back wheel is always the colour its surposed to be

Originally Posted by krazdndenver

The only thing I can think of is that they don't want oil continuously dumped on the ground here?

It has to be said. Since when has the US been bothered about a little oil being flung about He he, I know I'm a yank.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by krazdndenver

Thanks for the info, pricey piece of equipment but worth it I'm sure.

Loobman http://www.chainoiler.co.uk/ the manual alternative For only £17.99
P+P INCLUDED
World-Wide.
Does the exact same job, only better because it loobs both sides of the chain. Depends if you can remember to give it a squeeze every 50 miles, or you want a fit & forget system (scottoiler)

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Stu

Loobman - Does the exact same job.

Not quite, it's good but isn't automatic.

Originally Posted by Stu

only better because it loobs both sides of the chain .

Unless you understand how a chain is constructed, when you'll know this isn't the case.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Not quite, it's good but isn't automatic.

Kind of went on to say that, said it better first time I wrote it but lost that.

Unless you understand how a chain is constructed, when you'll know this isn't the case.

Well I'm sitting comfortably, all ears to listen why I'm wrong and why Scottoiler charge you for money for the Dual sided thingy

[TSM]

Originally Posted by Stu

Well I'm sitting comfortably, all ears to listen why I'm wrong and why Scottoiler charge you for money for the Dual sided thingy

Marketing, money, youve been pulled on that one.

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Stu

Well I'm sitting comfortably, all ears to listen why I'm wrong and why Scottoiler charge you for money for the Dual sided thingy.

A drive chain as I'm sure you know is constructed of two types of links, the inner and the outer. The outer link sideplates are connected together by pins that you see peened over, (rivetted), on the sides of the plates. The inner link plates are connected together in a similar way except that the joining pins are hollow - a bush. Those two parts make a bearing upon which the links articulate, the pin passing through the bush. In an unsealed chain - a non 'O' ring chain - you need to lube this joint or the chain will soon be excessively worn, it can be oiled from either side as the pin and bush have a clearance between them allowing them to move and allowing lubricant between them, if they didn't it would soon sieze. It's this very bearing that is sealed in an 'O' ring* chain and cannot be oiled** - grease is used fill this joint when the chain is made and lasts the life of the chain**. Upon the bush that joins the inner sideplates there is a roller, this roller is the part of the chain that primarily contacts the sprockets, allowing the chain to roll on and off of the teeth of the sprocket rather than slide which would quickly cause wear. The roller isn't sealed and must be lubricated, it too has a clearance that allows it to spin on the bush and allows lubricant into it's bearing faces, from either side.
If my explanation has been adequate it should be apparent that if you use an unsealed chain it will need lubricant into the articulations of the joints and the roller. It will need lube inserted between inner and outer plates so as to get between the pin and bush, between the inner plates and the edges of the roller to get under the roller so it will roll effectively on the bush, a little overspray on top of the roller eases the contact of the two, but is the lube that soonest dissapears.
It should also be clear that when using a sealed chain the only bit that you can oil is the roller, and further that this can be done from either side.

Originally Posted by TSM

Marketing, money, youve been pulled on that one.

That may be putting it a bit strongly. However the dual oiler allows chain oilers to be sold to people that wouldn't otherwise buy them because of the 'only oil one side of the chain' misconception.

* Or 'X' ring, either describes a sealed chain.
** Unless your chain is goosed and the seals have failed of course.

[BillyC]

Originally Posted by kwak zzr

too messy.

Then you did it wrong.

i aint got one but ive seen the state of bikes that have.

[BillyC]

Originally Posted by kwak zzr

i aint got one but ive seen the state of bikes that have.

They were doing it wrong then.