the PC brigade claim another victim

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by beabert

at the mnemonic. I'm with all the above! What did he expect the out come would be? Fully deserved.

I'm not so sure he left out the words that he thought might be deemed offensive or inappropriate, the kids in his class then filled in the gaps themselves. Well according to the BBC article anyway...

I had teachers at school who pushed the boundaries of acceptable behaviour, our maths teacher used to swear like a trooper especially if we were messing about and not doing what we were told. He was one of the best teachers I ever had.

The point I'm trying to make is sometimes you learn more from a teacher with an unorthodox approach than one the rigidly teaches from a plan / from a book all the time. I suspect this teacher was just trying to inject a little fun into his lesson.

[Balky001]

Fizz, you still watching Dead Poet's Society?

That mnemonic (even if he did play blankety blank with it) is shocking, something David Brent would say and then stand there for 5 minutes in total silence waiting for a reaction. Not exactly news though. I'm sure if he thought it was really OK he wouldn't have missed the words out, he obviously knew if was inappropriate.

[Ruffy]

A couple of points:

1. The mnemonic in question is to help remember colour codes. Having the first word be 'black' actually improves the memory aid because the first colour is, lo and behold, black: So it helps remove possible confusion with 'blue' that follows.

2. Would it have been poor teaching to offer this mnemonic phrase as one, historic possibility that he had been taught (which is merely stating a fact) but then follow up with a discussion on why it was probably inappropriate to use it nowadays and lead on to a class exercise to define something better?

The fact that this teacher didn't reveal the full phrase shows he recognised that it was perhaps past its sell by date but clearly the kid wasn't able to understand any possible sensitivity, blarting it around school. But heaven forbid a teacher be allowed to impart knowledge and encourage his pupils to think!!!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by flymo

not sure I follow that logic Chris.

I dont know for sure but I reckon this was nothing major up until the point it was shared with the press.

The headmaster of the school should have told him "bit naughty that, the kids have found out that it used to be a bit racist, be a bit more careful in future". Job jobbed. Quite easy no? Completely free also.

Someone else thought, these officious w*nkers are spending their (no doubt HIGHLY paid time) castigating this one bloke who's done nothing wrong rather than looking after the children's education. I think that's worth publishing TBH.

Originally Posted by Balky001

That mnemonic (even if he did play blankety blank with it) is shocking,

Shocking eh. I'm sure you're all sat there like , ghostly white with one hand over your mouth and a tear in your eye? No? In fact I bet you kinda shrugged and got on with your day.

What words did he blank out and which did he share? Or did he change the words entirely and they figure it out later? How can anyone here* judge how "offensive" or "shocking" this was without explicitly knowing that?



*Except me, 'cos I think if it wasn't insulting anyone directly at the time the education board or whatever should mind their own f***ing business however he worded it.

It's just a massive knee jerk over reaction and a dent in a good teachers career.

Call it sheltered life, I don't even know what the sentence is ?

I'm with YC on this one, let the head earn his money, give him a quiet word, maybe address his class as to why it's inappropriate in these modern times, put it behind, get on with teaching, simple.

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Ruffy

A couple of points:

1. The mnemonic in question is to help remember colour codes. Having the first word be 'black' actually improves the memory aid because the first colour is, lo and behold, black: So it helps remove possible confusion with 'blue' that follows.

2. Would it have been poor teaching to offer this mnemonic phrase as one, historic possibility that he had been taught (which is merely stating a fact) but then follow up with a discussion on why it was probably inappropriate to use it nowadays and lead on to a class exercise to define something better?

The fact that this teacher didn't reveal the full phrase shows he recognised that it was perhaps past its sell by date but clearly the kid wasn't able to understand any possible sensitivity, blarting it around school. But heaven forbid a teacher be allowed to impart knowledge and encourage his pupils to think!!!

OMG, commonsense approach.

I learned the mnemonic 40 yrs back and "see" a black band on a resistor not some huge guy running round with his bits hanging out looking for a vestal virgin.

If some wimp of a (tanned) guy shrieks and swoons at the mere mention of the verse he needs some serious counselling.

FFS get a grip. Its a mnemonic about resistor colour codes. No one is pointing a finger and saying you're ~'#}%&b whatever...

I can imagine a yoof from da hood laughing his cotton socks off at this.

Just looking on Al Jazeera rag head tv and a mujahadeen lecturer has been suspended for using a mneumonic WSROYW. Apparently it helps helps the apprentice suicide bombers remeber the sequence for the ignition code and which is also a passgae from the Koran. He got a slap on the wrist because he was an engineer of good standing and they had better things to do than worry about teachers talking ****. White Soldiers Rape Our Young Women is just an old fashioned saying from the Russian invasion, so it's OK. Not sure how I feel about that, but then at least we beat the Cheese eating surrender monkies at Rugby today. Yeee ha! Guinness mucks my perception up!

[northwind]

Originally Posted by flymo

seriously, there's politically correct and then there's plain appropriate. It's a bloody rediculous phrase to use in a school to teach kids.

Yup, totally agree with that. And the punishment fits the crime too, "claim another victim" the title says but he's had a slap on the wrists, you'd think he'd been fired. (some people DO think he's been fired )

[flymo]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

The headmaster of the school should have told him "bit naughty that, the kids have found out that it used to be a bit racist, be a bit more careful in future". Job jobbed. Quite easy no? Completely free also.

Totally agree, I get that bit. My point was that you said it should not have gone further than the head but also that it was reasonable for them to have gone to the press.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by flymo

Totally agree, I get that bit. My point was that you said it should not have gone further than the head but also that it was reasonable for them to have gone to the press.

Aye, they're not mutually exclusive. If for example someone had gone to the press that the head of the school had told him off for it then I'd agree it wasn't worthy of blowing the whistle on it.

He would quite rightly have been told off for it, but only because of the retarded society that we live in rather than it actually being morally wrong.

If I was giving the telling off (and I would, in that situation) it would be "don't say that again mate or some left-wing cheesed*ck will blow a fuse over it because they've got nothing else to do in between wanking each other off and sending memos"