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Old 23-08-10, 08:53 PM   #11
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Default Re: Little difference restricted? I disagree.

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Top end seems to be about 110 then struggles like **** to get anything more, so I've heard...



sounds like it is restricted m8.
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Old 23-08-10, 08:54 PM   #12
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Default Re: Little difference restricted? I disagree.

If it wheelies and wheelspin easily id say it is full power, restricted it accelerates slower and slower the faster you go, after 60 is pathetic.

The most obvious thing is at 7k, when restricted nothing happens lol.
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Old 23-08-10, 09:00 PM   #13
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Oh it is a good bike to restrict, just only using half the throttle travel certainly makes a bike feel different!

Plus people saying it makes no difference up to 80(or insert number here) mph. Open the throttle off the lights then you fannies.
Too right mate, its so addictive, huge difference in everyway if you actually open it up
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Old 08-11-10, 01:25 AM   #14
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Just to settle this - I have a full license (unrestricted) and have just bought my missus an SV650S K9 Sport (The full faired one with the white racing stripe. As she has a 33bhp license I bought the ECU restrictor kit and the insurance company asked for the certificate. We don't have this so I took it to have a dyno test. ****ing hell the power is retarded, I have ridden it with the original ECU and it's a *BIG!!!* difference. I can however confirm you can wheelie it with ease at 33bhp, but you need to clutch it up, get it to about 5k then slip the clutch, open the throttle and drop it - if your thinking about what your doing and pressure up on the gear select after you release the clutch and wait for the rev limiter it clicks into second and you can feather the throttle and keep the bike up for ages.

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Old 08-11-10, 01:27 AM   #15
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BTW: there are 2 types of restrictor - one by FI International which restricts the throttle and air flow and the genuine suzuki ECU restrictor which allows full revs and throttle control but remaps the Air/Fuel mixture
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Old 08-11-10, 10:43 AM   #16
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Default Re: Little difference restricted? I disagree.

Genuine one restricts air using the STV system, you can't just restrict fuel as it would run like a bag of sh*t... it keeps mixture same but gives same effect as if you didn't open the throttle all the way.

FI int. kit OTOH tries to restrict air by washers without control over fuelling... which makes them run rich.
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Old 11-11-10, 08:57 AM   #17
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I was lost for words when i got off! What the hell is an R1 like!!!!
put it this way. ive heard stories of alot of the R1s when they first came out going back to have them lengthened slightly on the swinging arm due to people flipping them at traffic lights too easily.

personally i dont think anyone on the road "needs" a bike with anything like the power of an r1, theyre like missiles with a saddle and alot of the power is wasted cos its just not usable off the track. even then ive seen a tt rider (john mcguiness i think though not sure) actually lap his 600 quicker than he did the 1000 at olivers mount near scarborough
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Old 11-11-10, 01:05 PM   #18
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put it this way. ive heard stories of alot of the R1s when they first came out going back to have them lengthened slightly on the swinging arm due to people flipping them at traffic lights too easily.

personally i dont think anyone on the road "needs" a bike with anything like the power of an r1, theyre like missiles with a saddle and alot of the power is wasted cos its just not usable off the track. even then ive seen a tt rider (john mcguiness i think though not sure) actually lap his 600 quicker than he did the 1000 at olivers mount near scarborough
Well its definately going to be my next bike, i want it for the acceleration rather than top speed. The lengthened swing arms look good.
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Old 11-11-10, 01:48 PM   #19
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can feather the throttle and keep the bike up for ages.
Or at least until oil-starvation makes it go BOOM!
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Old 12-11-10, 02:20 PM   #20
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Default Re: Little difference restricted? I disagree.

I've got a graph somewhere of just how terrible the throttle slides make the power curve. My SV700 managed just short of 35BHP on the slides that beabert now has.

Its a shame I don't have the curves back to back but IIRC the initial portion was unchanged so if you never rev it you'd never notice.

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