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10-06-13, 11:40 AM

You can suck some out with a syringe and a bit of rubber tube from the filler hole.*

Edit* beaten to it

TamSV · 10-06-13, 11:43 AM

Syringe works. If you don't have one then the easiest way is to crack the oil filter open a touch and let some oil drain out.

If you drain it into a clean container you can put some back in if you drain too much.

Don't bother trying to drain a bit out the sump plug. You'll drop the plug, 90% of your oil will fall out and the remaining 10% will run up your sleeve as you try to put the plug back in.

10-06-13, 12:44 PM

Have had the same issue myself - was topping it up after an oil change and overdid it by a tiny bit and that caused the gear shifting all round to be stiff, and making it really hard to get into neutral.

As the others have said, siphon out a bit of oil and it'll sort it

PyroUK · 10-06-13, 01:05 PM

That is what mine is doing!!

Almost exactly the same although oil not an issue as it has done it on low oil and normal level.

Jambo had a play at it briefly at last yrs AR which sorted it for a while.

Mine can go in to neutral on the move if I time everything right.

Mine has now also decided that if it isn't getting stuck in gear it shifts perfectly but will cut out when I pull the clutch lever (not great at junctions and roundabouts!!).

If you get yours sorted I would be very interested in how and see if it solves my problems! My L0 is currently at almost 19k

Jason H · 10-06-13, 08:29 PM

Cheers everyone for your input, syphoned off loads of oil (really surprised me how much) and now she's running really nice again.

Plus I also adjust ed the clutch again and fitted my CNC shorty levers this evening as they happened to have arrived today.

DJ123 · 10-06-13, 08:37 PM

It's easy to drop oil out of the sump plug without losing all of it. Need to keep pressure applied to the plug blocking the hole and angle it to release some out. Then screw it back in.

Fallout · 10-06-13, 08:40 PM

Just as a side note, too much oil is baaaaaad. Not sure exactly which seals it puts pressure on (maybe rings) but in any case, it starts squeezing through seals and causing damage. Never fill above F when the bike is upright. Sounds like you caught it early enough though.

I've overfilled before and just drain from the sump plug, but I like a good slippy fist.

Pete7 · 10-06-13, 10:10 PM

I have one of these on the boat for draining oil out of the engine. Brilliant bit of kit if you think you might be doing stuff regularly. The last one lasted 10 years being used with petrol, oil and sal****er.

Pete

http://www.force4.co.uk/859/Pela-600...ctor-Pump.html

10-06-13, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason H

Cheers everyone for your input, syphoned off loads of oil (really surprised me how much) and now she's running really nice again.

Plus I also adjust ed the clutch again and fitted my CNC shorty levers this evening as they happened to have arrived today.

timwilky · 11-06-13, 06:28 AM

off on a tangent, love that the swear filter doesn't like sal****er.

10-06-13, 11:40 AM	#11
dkid Guest Posts: n/a	Difficulty engaging neutral once warm You can suck some out with a syringe and a bit of rubber tube from the filler hole.* Edit* beaten to it

10-06-13, 11:43 AM	#12
TamSV Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Troon, Ayrshire Posts: 1,812	Re: Difficulty engaging neutral once warm Syringe works. If you don't have one then the easiest way is to crack the oil filter open a touch and let some oil drain out. If you drain it into a clean container you can put some back in if you drain too much. Don't bother trying to drain a bit out the sump plug. You'll drop the plug, 90% of your oil will fall out and the remaining 10% will run up your sleeve as you try to put the plug back in.

10-06-13, 12:44 PM	#13
Steve_God Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Difficulty engaging neutral once warm Have had the same issue myself - was topping it up after an oil change and overdid it by a tiny bit and that caused the gear shifting all round to be stiff, and making it really hard to get into neutral. As the others have said, siphon out a bit of oil and it'll sort it

10-06-13, 01:05 PM	#14
PyroUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poole Posts: 1,083	Difficulty engaging neutral once warm That is what mine is doing!! Almost exactly the same although oil not an issue as it has done it on low oil and normal level. Jambo had a play at it briefly at last yrs AR which sorted it for a while. Mine can go in to neutral on the move if I time everything right. Mine has now also decided that if it isn't getting stuck in gear it shifts perfectly but will cut out when I pull the clutch lever (not great at junctions and roundabouts!!). If you get yours sorted I would be very interested in how and see if it solves my problems! My L0 is currently at almost 19k __________________ 2011 Triumph Daytona 675, Arrow exhaust and QS!

10-06-13, 08:29 PM	#15
Jason H Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Sussex...Previously a Somerset Lad Posts: 276	Re: Difficulty engaging neutral once warm Cheers everyone for your input, syphoned off loads of oil (really surprised me how much) and now she's running really nice again. Plus I also adjust ed the clutch again and fitted my CNC shorty levers this evening as they happened to have arrived today. __________________ Naked K5 - Now Red with sexy stripes!! Mods: Renthal Flat bars, 's' clutch perch, GSXR front master cylinder, CNC shorty levers, Tail Tidy, Fuel Mini S/S Slip-on, 15/47, 's' Swing-arm, Pillion seat cowl, GSXR 750 front end, CNC polished top yoke, R6 Throttle tube, GSXR rear shock Rotate your Owl

10-06-13, 08:37 PM	#16
DJ123 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 3,245	Re: Difficulty engaging neutral once warm It's easy to drop oil out of the sump plug without losing all of it. Need to keep pressure applied to the plug blocking the hole and angle it to release some out. Then screw it back in. __________________ BMW F800ST

10-06-13, 08:40 PM	#17
Fallout Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 2,983	Re: Difficulty engaging neutral once warm Just as a side note, too much oil is baaaaaad. Not sure exactly which seals it puts pressure on (maybe rings) but in any case, it starts squeezing through seals and causing damage. Never fill above F when the bike is upright. Sounds like you caught it early enough though. I've overfilled before and just drain from the sump plug, but I like a good slippy fist. __________________ MotoGoLoco - You knows it The Shed - Suzuki GSX-R 750 K1 \| Triumph Tiger 1050 K6 Fallout Bikes (VLogs, Tutorials, Bike Vids) Fallout Breakbeat (My Music)

11-06-13, 06:28 AM	#20
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Re: Difficulty engaging neutral once warm off on a tangent, love that the swear filter doesn't like sal****er. __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

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