Suspension Suppliers & Prices

quality vid blue--enjoyed watching that mate,just shows what the sv can be riden like
husky

Indeed a quality vid (Still need to get a bit more confident with my overtaking on the track).

What springs / forks have you got ? as its the front end that need the most attention on mine

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

To be honest I am surprised it is even still a debate ... if people don’t want to 'hear' my opinion, I actually have lots of video footage PROVING that a 636 rear shock is more than up to the job!!

For example:-

Blue at Silverstone GP

All done on a 636 shock!! Does anyone actually NEED any more?

So why did you buy an Ohlins then?.

Originally Posted by husky03 and tricky

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If you boys enjoyed that, here's another ... again on a 636 rear shock

blue at cadders clip

Oh and I have 80 racetech springs, racetech emulators and 15w oil, all professionally set up by myself!! ... as was the 636 rear shock!

Originally Posted by SV650Racer

So why did you buy an Ohlins then?.

Coz I was thinking of racing it and wanted that extra little bit ... but like I said, in 'the real world' i.e. not racing, the 636 shock is easily enough!! (as the videos kinda prove)

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

If you boys enjoyed that, here's another ... again on a 636 rear shock

blue at cadders clip

Oh and I have 80 racetech springs, racetech emulators and 15w oil, all professionally set up by myself!! ... as was the 636 rear shock!



Coz I was thinking of racing it and wanted that extra little bit ... but like I said, in 'the real world' i.e. not racing, the 636 shock is easily enough!! (as the videos kinda prove)

so the last give years havent been real then...i wish someone had told me that earlier

In my opinion if you can afford a proper shock thats made for the bike..get one. Over and above better than making do and you can also get more than half of what it cost back when you sell the bike..aftermarket shocks for SV's sell for silly money on ebay so well worth doing...and I ride on road and track..both the same to me when it comes to requiring suspension that works the best it can. No point getting second best just because you ride on the road!

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

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Originally Posted by SV650Racer

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can you two just get a room or something?

Originally Posted by weazelz

can you two just get a room or something?

wasnt arguing or disagreeing...sorry maybe it was my incorrect use of smilies that made it read wrong...

Does this forum have a filter that twists how words read dependant on what size monitor you use?.

Originally Posted by weazelz

can you two just get a room or something?

She'd only argue till blue in the face that we needed the whole hotel, not just a room!!!

Sorry SJ, but it does seem that way at times

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

For example:-

Blue at Silverstone GP

Hellishly aggressive overtaking for a trackday. Can't say I'd be best pleased about some of your overtakes had I been one of those you sliced up on the brakes.

There's no doubt there's some serious riding talent there, but a bit of courtesy wouldn't go amiss - it ain't a race.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by SV650Racer

No point getting second best just because you ride on the road!

So... Why do you use Ohlins then?

OK, less sarky, why do you use an off-the-shelf Ohlins rather than a bespoke works Showa or Ohlins item? Or likewise, GSXR front over superbike-spec Ohlins gas forks, or Dymag mags instead of carbon? Same situation, everyone does a cost vs benefit decision.

Blue's in a good position because he's seen both sides- used a 636 shock, upgraded, regretted it. But other people have done the same and not regretted it, or have other comparisons(I've put 636 and GSXR shocks in other people's bikes, and an Ohlins in my own), and don't agree with him. This is called Having An Opinion.

For me, even though I really apprecaite the quality of a better shock- whether it be my Ohlins or my WP, or a Penske triple, or whatever- I reckon the bodges have their place. Simple maths, a 636 shock costs about £40 for the last of the KYB shocks, wee bit more for the (better) Showas, a new Ohlins or similiar costs typiaclly £400 plus. Is the aftermarket shock ten times better? Well, IMO no, not at all. It's better, there's no doubt at all, but in terms of "bang for buck" you could take that £360 and throw it at a CSS day or something and go faster, or some other useful mod.

So, I call it a luxury. Quite a big one. But then, I like luxuries, just because it's not needed or because you can get 2/3 or more of the result on something 1/10 the price doesn't mean it's not worth having. And I wouldn't want to go back from my luxury item to something that's merely good enough.

At the same time, I don't buy this "second best" argument- best isn't the highest spec item, best is what fits your needs best. Most people would be happy with a 636 shock, so second best would be spending 10 times more for something that won't give them a good return on that investment.