Dogbone sets - a warning

Interesting, have we ever had any reports of eBay ones failing?

I see you blanket slate them, but where is the evidence? Do we know what grade material the eBay are made of???

I have a vested interest as I have an ebay set. I think lots of others do too, never heard anything negative said about them ...

I think it is unfair that just because your home made jobs failed to presume that eBay ones will ... if we were to find they were made of the same grade metal then it'd have more basis ...

I think this research needs to be done ... if they, the JHS or BanditMainia(?) ones come up short on metal type/grade then we ought to publicise it as it is a common mod ...

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Quite, but my mate pointed me at the Dural, so I took it knowing it to be superior to mild steel in this respect. Little did I know....

well, only mildly (no pun intended) superior

what I meant was that even with the crappiest mild steel you're only a fraction off the strength of top-notch dural. & maybe the ebay guy does use a better steel than mild, it can't cost a vast amount more

anyway, glad you survived to tell the tale

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Interesting, have we ever had any reports of eBay ones failing?

I see you blanket slate them, but where is the evidence? Do we know what grade material the eBay are made of???

I have a vested interest as I have an ebay set. I think lots of others do too, never heard anything negative said about them ...

I think it is unfair that just because your home made jobs failed to presume that eBay ones will ... if we were to find they were made of the same grade metal then it'd have more basis ...

The coppers who picked me up told me the sets they'd seen fail had been bought on eBay. Initially they thought that's where mine had come from and were chiding me for being a bit tight and buying suspension parts from unknown suppliers. I got it even worse when I fessed up to making my own.

Originally Posted by Lozzo

The coppers who picked me up told me the sets they'd seen fail had been bought on eBay. Initially they thought that's where mine had come from and were chiding me for being a bit tight and buying suspension parts from unknown suppliers. I got it even worse when I fessed up to making my own.

I am not suggesting we dismiss that totally - but I wouldn't put much weight on it (if you pardon the pun!!)

Do we have anybody that has the facilities to see exactly what metal these bones are made of?

The eBay add says/claims "Made from high quality high strength steel"

So lets not jump the gun and get someone to do some proper research

As a starter for 10, I'll see if a magnet sticks to mine

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by weazelz

steel is an alloy

Very true, your point is?

(read my post again there's a good chap.)

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My home made are tool steel, and have been on since 4,000 miles, bike has done 153,000 miles in total without any issue, might be heavier than stock, but if you look at the forces involved I wasn't going to take a chance.

Guess it's a case of knowing what you're doing, if you don't have the equipment to test it's as strong as the originals then just make sure you make it stronger.

Cheers Mark.

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Standard GSXR1000 K1 dogbones are made from an alloy of some variety. I owned a Gixer thou at the same time as the Bandit, so using Dural seemed a logical choice as I'd seen it worked perfectly well on that bike.

Aye, but the GSXR is quite a bit lighter than the Bandit, and Suzuki wouldn't have just slung any old alloy-type dog bones on there.

They'd have been relentlesly tested again and again so they not only coped with the weight of the bike, but also any portly gentlemen or ladies that decided to own one.

Always buy from a reputable source.

I have seen these break..they were cheap ones bought from Ebay on a Bandit 1200 and one set on an SV1000. You dont have much comeback either on the seller then.

Ensure too for things like this if you can that they are TUV approved and the seller has liability insurance so your covered.

Originally Posted by Gnome

Aye, but the GSXR is quite a bit lighter than the Bandit, and Suzuki wouldn't have just slung any old alloy-type dog bones on there.

They'd have been relentlesly tested again and again so they not only coped with the weight of the bike, but also any portly gentlemen or ladies that decided to own one.

There's about 25 kilos in it, the difference between a pie-eating salad dodger and someone whose body is a temple.

You don't know me do you, I'm far from "portly" - quite the opposite actually, I'm 5ft 8 and just over 11 stone of tanned, fit, hugely attractive muscular goodness (form a queue over ---> there please ladies)

Originally Posted by Lozzo

I'm 5ft 8 and just over 11 stone of tanned, fit, hugely attractive muscular goodness (form a queue over ---> there please ladies)

I poop bigger than you