Michael Collins the 140mph biker

I know its not entrapment, i just feel that the fact the biker he saw in his rear view "keeping up" may have egged him on to go faster, we all do it, not an excuse mind just a thought.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

So you could argue if the copper hadn't been having a dice with him, then that dangerous driving charge or whatever would have simply been speeding.

The guys obviously been riding a bit quick before... but the coppers riding certainly didn't help matters. If another biker wants to play... most people will oblige them.

Aye, but Chris he wasn't forced into anything. You can roll off and let them past or even ignore them.

It seems to me that the original post (no offence Neil) was posted without the other side of the arguement. As bikers we surely can`t advocate speeds of 100mph in a 30mph zone? As this guy was on his way to work i`m assuming that it`s around what? 8am to 9am. Was there a school in that 30mph zone?

On my recent bikesafe course I watched a video of a guy who`d been similarly prosecuted and received a similar sentence for doing speeds of 100mph in a 30mph zone. In the video he admits how he was in the wrong, he was filmed doing 105mph past a primary school.

Fair play to the guy for admitting how stupid and irresponsible he was....... at least he`s not complaining about how unfair it all is like this Michael Collins! Slate me if you want but as far as I`m concerned Michael Collins got the punishment he deserved.

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Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Aye, but Chris he wasn't forced into anything. You can roll off and let them past or even ignore them.

Yes you can, but you must see that riding up someones rse is probably going to get them to go even faster. Especially an ex-racer on a road he knows well. The guys nicked red handed ... I'm just saying the copper went to absurd and dangerous lengths to do it and I think he was well out of order.

Originally Posted by Speedy Claire

Slate me if you want but as far as I`m concerned Michael Collins got the punishment he deserved.

I think you are spot on there Claire.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I'm just saying the copper went to absurd and dangerous lengths to do it and I think he was well out of order.

Aye, a little evidence and proof of his vehicles identity was all that was needed.

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Originally Posted by keithd

i've read every post on this thread, and havnt read anything like as bad as you're making out...maybe i've misread or taken tone and what was intended a different way to you...

Think that's because.... well, search for a video of Diamo's riding, then you'll know why he's "a little disgusted with some of the "fellow biker" comments".

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Speedy Claire

Fair play to the guy for admitting how stupid and irresponsible he was....... at least he`s not complaining about how unfair it all is like this Michael Collins! Slate me if you want but as far as I`m concerned Michael Collins got the punishment he deserved.

Originally Posted by micheal collins

I'm ****ed off, I can accept the ban for the speeding, it was wrong. The suspended sentence I can cope with as I've never done anything wrong before this and don't plan on doing anything afterwards. But 240 hours of community service when I work six days a week, giving up every Sunday for a year to paint fences with proper criminals isn't going to do me any good whatsoever. The police need more education in terms of the theory of dangerous driving, one of the policemen told me that while I was bolt upright, because I was under acceleration that I could fall of at any second. They don't really understand any other style of riding other than their own. I would love to get them on a track.

That doesn't sound to me like he's complaining how unfair it is. In fact it sounds fairly reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

I think you are spot on there Claire.

I disagree. He's been punished enough by the ban as now he's getting the bus. What debt does he have to repay to society with community service? He hurt noone.

Has the copper been given same for making people $hit themselves with his dodgy overtakes?

Chris he`s lucky he didn`t kill someone........ the very fact that he`s posted his article at all instead of shutting up and accepting his sentence is (to me) complaining. He accepts the ban for speeding, big deal! what about accepting that he was riding dangerously and without regard for other human life. Ok so we`ve all ridden at over the legal limit, I`m certainly not saying i`m a saint BUT 100mph in a 30mph zone to me says it all, I`d never be so stupid as to ride in that manner. He needs to consider himself both lucky to be alive and lucky that he didn`t kill anyone and he needs to shut up and get on with painting those fences.