Muslim Protests

Originally Posted by tactcom7

Sorry but thats simply not true. are you saying that the only reason i don't rob my neighbour and rape his wife is down to religion?

Nope, I don't think he means that directly, this is a Christian country and our laws are derived/based on some of those beliefs.

Originally Posted by tactcom7

Sorry but thats simply not true. are you saying that the only reason i don't rob my neighbour and rape his wife is down to religion?

Apology accepted. I said 'basis', not the exact and only reason for morality. I also said 'society' as opposed to you personally.

I think tbh its a massive over reaction. What part in the filming/creative process did the embassy worker in Libya take part in to warrant his death. Absolutely nothing apart from being born American. You have people just as fanatical in America about Christianity. For instance the chopper who made the Video in the first place.

What about the police force in Egypt? They are muslim are they rioting? no! is it because they understand its just a video or because of an oath sworn as a police officer, that's a different question tbh

Just a shame that people can be so inflamed from 1 comment or post by an idiot.

Trolling level: World Champion Supreme

Originally Posted by ravingdavis

Yes.

Religion is the basis for morality in any society the world over. While you or I may not consider ourselves religious, by being a law abiding citizen in the United Kingdom you have inherently followed the Christian tenants that our system of law is based on. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a country with a rule of law that has not evolved from religion.

People will always twist any belief to suit their needs or wants (violent or otherwise). This is not evidence of the failure of religion but of the human condition.

In answer to this. I am not a religious person I only attend churches for weddings and funerals. My honest belief is that religion is an old form of policing a population. As there wasn't a police force people self policed their communities by do this and you go to hell be good go to heaven.

You are quite right that the christian rules are quite close to law. However we now have people to enforce the laws made upon these old rules.

If you went purely off religion you could rape and pillage to your hearts content and then repent upon your death bed.

Now you jst rape and pillage and get community service or a fine lol not saying the world is perfect but to my eyes religion is an old concept and should be forgotten

Originally Posted by ravingdavis

Apology accepted. I said 'basis', not the exact and only reason for morality. I also said 'society' as opposed to you personally.

Ok using 'basis' and 'society' its still a factually incorrect, sweeping statement.

Or at least difficult to work out if Morality came from religion or religion from morality.


I'd suggest it's more likely that religion adopted a morality already existing in successful societies since differing cultures with small or no contact often had similar morals.

Originally Posted by Spank86

Or at least difficult to work out if Morality came from religion or religion from morality.


I'd suggest it's more likely that religion adopted a morality already existing in successful societies since differing cultures with small or no contact often had similar morals.

Good argument. I think almost impossible to prove either way

Voltaire said 'If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him'. Quite an entertaining quote for this discussion!

It makes sense for people to be naturally moral to each other.

Imagine two traders who had never met but wanted to trade.
If one rips the other off he risks reprisal and gaining a bad name, soon no-one would want to do business and he would in the worst case, starve.
But gain a good name and reputation and your business will thrive. Do someone a favour and it is likely it will be returned in the future. wrong someone and you will be remembered but not for the right reasons.

Karma?

Originally Posted by specialone

Karma?

In a way, but that sounds too religiousy