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Old 30-04-08, 11:57 AM   #61
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my last bike had **** tyres and has really knocked me back on my riding
Currently on my bike I have a bald D207 rear (shocking in the wet apparently) and a conti road attack that is going through on the right shoulder on the tyre, makes for interesting riding to say the least in the wet. In the dry I am not bothered they feel fine, just when you have a slight front end slide you think ahh yes better change that.

Seggons, thumbs up to you for posting and kept going. Get some miles in and build your pace slowly, your trying too hard at the moment, get your bike set up to you, go out, bimble, don't hoon, work on your vision first. See the road ahead not the road your on. Good example was to watch that bike in the first clip thats about where you want to be looking. Your tyres will cope with corners in the dry, don't lose faith in them, put it like this, until your pegs are grinding (provided you have right pressures and decent tread) your tyres will cope. Sit your bum off a little bit for a corner, drop your elbow in a bit maybe.

If you like I am willing to meet up and help you out mate. Me and you, or if you like with others. Up to you, offer is there
 
Old 30-04-08, 12:06 PM   #62
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Currently on my bike I have a bald D207 rear (shocking in the wet apparently) and a conti road attack that is going through on the right shoulder on the tyre, makes for interesting riding to say the least in the wet. In the dry I am not bothered they feel fine, just when you have a slight front end slide you think ahh yes better change that.

Seggons, thumbs up to you for posting and kept going. Get some miles in and build your pace slowly, your trying too hard at the moment, get your bike set up to you, go out, bimble, don't hoon, work on your vision first. See the road ahead not the road your on. Good example was to watch that bike in the first clip thats about where you want to be looking. Your tyres will cope with corners in the dry, don't lose faith in them, put it like this, until your pegs are grinding (provided you have right pressures and decent tread) your tyres will cope. Sit your bum off a little bit for a corner, drop your elbow in a bit maybe.

If you like I am willing to meet up and help you out mate. Me and you, or if you like with others. Up to you, offer is there

I think you should change careers. Professional riding coach to the Moto GP boys.
 
Old 30-04-08, 12:14 PM   #63
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Currently on my bike I have a bald D207 rear (shocking in the wet apparently) and a conti road attack that is going through on the right shoulder on the tyre, makes for interesting riding to say the least in the wet. In the dry I am not bothered they feel fine, just when you have a slight front end slide you think ahh yes better change that.
I do the same, I run any old combination of tyre on my roadibke, even the wrong sizes, I simply don't care, you just ride accordingly. Have to admit I do tend to run mine at legal tread limits though, not that I care about grip, but I do care about points in my licence!!

However when all is said and done, I do also appreciate that if one doesn't have confidence in how their tyres will perform it is going to knock their confidence.

I find Michelins extremely unpredictable tyres when cold, I therefore steer away from them (if you pardon the pun!! ) as I don't like tyres I can't predict how they will be have (your tyres might be plops in the wet, but you KNOW they are and what they will/wont do at any given point ... Michelins will be fine on one pass, spit you off in the next!! ).

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Old 30-04-08, 01:45 PM   #64
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I think you should change careers. Professional riding coach to the Moto GP boys.
Bet you could teach me a thing or two (steady on)
 
Old 30-04-08, 02:45 PM   #65
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Made me smile on the second piece of footage, your words were something along the lines of this will show you how I can really corner ..... and then the first 52 seconds was a long straight! Made me smile.

If you are happy for constructive critisism/comments I would like to just suggest that instead of cutting the corner (I know you can see because you are on an open road, but for the sake of practice ....) when you are taking a right hander, put yourself to the left of the road ....so that in theory if you were unable to see round the corner, you would give yourself the best view of what is approaching ... and then also when taking a left hand corner, put yourself to right of your lane (on the middle white lines) also giving you better view of whats ahead. This also gives you more chance of finding the apex.
 
Old 30-04-08, 02:59 PM   #66
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Bet you could teach me a thing or two (steady on)
Hell no. Your the one that can ride over your own body parts and not fall off. Don't think even Casy Stoner or Valentino Rossi can do that.
 
Old 30-04-08, 03:03 PM   #67
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Hell no. Your the one that can ride over your own body parts and not fall off. Don't think even Casy Stoner or Valentino Rossi can do that.
You take the **** out of peeps on a Dullesville mate

And the fact that you come back from injuries such as yours, takes balls mate.
 
Old 30-04-08, 06:38 PM   #68
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when you are taking a right hander, put yourself to the left of the road ....so that in theory if you were unable to see round the corner
On one of my favourite roads I regularly pass a memorial to a guy around my age who lost his head on his SV leaning across the white line, I think the constant reminders may have saved me a couple of times.

Seggons, I think I can relate to the state of mind that causes this kind of running wide. Some days last year when I'd not been riding for long I came close to doing the same. I knew exactly what not to do (brake whilst turning) but my mind was telling me I wasn't going to make it round the bend, despite what the speedo said. Most of the time now, having been riding for longer my confidence is ok, but when I do panic I just force myself to roll on and resist the temptation to brake. The real answer of course, is if your riding is causing you to panic, you're doing something wrong.

I don't wish to patronise, if that's how this post comes over, I'm sorry. I've not been riding for long enough to tell anyone else how to do it.
 
Old 30-04-08, 06:38 PM   #69
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Out of interest (and sorry for the off topic) but what camera were you using?
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/single-bike-camera-kit.htm + the 520tvl camera.

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If you like I am willing to meet up and help you out mate. Me and you, or if you like with others. Up to you, offer is there
Thanks for the offer, I'll bear it in mind. The chances are I'll see you on the rideout your organising.

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Made me smile on the second piece of footage, your words were something along the lines of this will show you how I can really corner ..... and then the first 52 seconds was a long straight! Made me smile.
hahaha I see what you mean, good spot.
 
Old 30-04-08, 06:47 PM   #70
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Seggons, I think I can relate to the state of mind that causes this kind of running wide. Some days last year when I'd not been riding for long I came close to doing the same. I knew exactly what not to do (brake whilst turning) but my mind was telling me I wasn't going to make it round the bend, despite what the speedo said. Most of the time now, having been riding for longer my confidence is ok, but when I do panic I just force myself to roll on and resist the temptation to brake. The real answer of course, is if your riding is causing you to panic, you're doing something wrong.
That is exactly my current riding style.
 
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