Cam Swap Pointy?

[Nobbylad]

Does anyone know the benefits?

Squirrel_hunter - did you do this and if so, was there any noticeable difference?

[squirrel_hunter]

Not got round to doing this yet. It's not my bike that its going in you see, its BaP's bike. But I have the cams for it ready. As for the difference to be sure we would need to Dyno it before and after so will see whats possible, however it won't be any time soon as the bike in question is parked up at the moment.

Originally Posted by zadar

You using same cams in same places on both bikes so marks are same.

Correct me if I am wrong...

1st Gen SV650 uses 2nd Gen Intake cams on intake, and 1st Gen Intake Cams on Exhaust...

This makes about 4 horse power to 1st Gen SV650...

2nd Gen SV650 uses 1st Gen Intake Cams on exhaust...

This makes about 2-3 horse power to 2nd Gen S650...


If you get the adjustable cam sprockets and degree the cams, you get the most power available....


Getting the Bored Out Throttle bodies and removing secondary butterflies makes about 3 horse power on the 2nd Gen SV650... Installing better injectors helps atomize fuel better...


Removing the lid of the air box is bad... Removing the intake snorkel does not help make more power... Installing a SV1000 snorkel does help a little... Velocity stacks do help funnel the air in...

Luis

Originally Posted by SVXR650

Correct me if I am wrong...

1st Gen SV650 uses 2nd Gen Intake cams on intake, and 1st Gen Intake Cams on Exhaust...
2nd Gen SV650 uses 1st Gen Intake Cams on exhaust...



If you get the adjustable cam sprockets and degree the cams, you get the most power available....



Removing the lid of the air box is bad...

You are not wrong, you just repeated what I said. You will not get 3hp on 2nd gen, maybe 1-2.
Cam degree will move power around in different rpm's, not necessary give you more power.
Why is it bad to remove lid?

Well when installing the intake cams on exhaust, you can not use the existing intake marks for exhaust markers...

At least it is the way I understand it...

As far as removing the top lid is bad because you are reducing the volume of the airbox and killing the resonance engineered into it... The ultimate test is Dyno results... If the numbers go down it is bad in my book...

Luis

Nobody said you can. It is said to use same marks for both gen bikes using same cam combo.
Dyno is not ultimate test, just like you can't test ram air on dyno. Or like perfect fuel/air mixture shown on dyno may not be the best when riding. Ultimate test is riding on road with real world conditions.

Unfortunately, you can not verify results from a test ride... Dyno-butt lies!!!

The Dyno gives you fact numbers, you can change settings and verify results are positive or negative...

Air/fuel mixture can be verified under load on a Dyno from exhaust gasses, a correct air/fuel mixture assures efficient burning engine that produces the most Power...

Of course the bike in question must be in excellent mechanical conditions before and after the upgrades in question...

I am sorry if I fail to see how the Dyno is not the best tool to measure power output... Most people will not be able to notice 2-3 horse power increase from a test ride...

That is why real bikes have data loggers. You think world level racing guys are spending hours on dyno tuning their bikes
Dyno is good tool but not tell it all. You can have perfect fuel/air graph on dyno and have on/off switch for throttle. Sometime you have to tune it different than dyno tells you.

A 85 horse power SV650 hardly compares to a World SBK...

How many SV650 do you think run Data Logging capabilities?

How many SV650 use traction control or anti wheelie control?

I do joke around saying that my SV650 has traction control... When people ask me what brand is it, I reply: It is called "80 horse power"

It would be nice if Suzuki gave us a revised SV850cc and a big mama SV1200cc... But I do not see that happening!!!

It looks more likely that the Gladius will come with half fairings and replace the SV650S...

Luis

Do you even have clue what you arguing?
You could not figure what marks on cams we talking about and you bringing traction and wheelie control.
How about sticking to subject and showing your extensive dyno tuning without airbox lid?