Legal Advice & Education

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by neio79

No as i originally said IF the school cant provide the facilities then yes she has a case for going to study else where. However if she is just doing it because she get an extra lay in if she dosent go in till after lunch etc then it wrong.

Or if she is one of many being affected by the lack of facilities then again she shoukd question it.

However if she is the only one and is doing this to rock the boat se should get back iin her box and tow the line as everyone else does.

I also think there is nothing wrong with making sure they turn up and then go away elsewhere to study. By not turning up who is to say she is not just going to stay in bed.

IF you read the OP it clearly says the facilities aren't up to scratch for the work she needs to do.
As for her maybe staying in bed what difference does that make if she is getting good grades by studying the way she has been?

Originally Posted by neio79

The sarcasum was lost on you there then!!

No it wasn't lost on me but sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and I didn't want to lower myself to your level.

I totally agree with Nieo.

If the school is asking students to do something they should do it, and the parents should back the schools.

In this case I suspect the result of allowing choice would be a lot of "home alone" kids. I would prefer it if the students were within the schools care than home alone.

Bottom line. No one goes into the education profession based on a desire to oppress their students. Neither do they go for the pay, conditions or prestige I suspect. So, ask yourselves why you think they teach and then tell me that they're not deserving of our support.

Moving on to the values and views of servicemen and women regarding education, I think this article shows there are proven benefits.

Did this situation develop overnight? Has the school always had a poor library? - or did it suddenly sell it off? Has there always been so few resources? Wasn't all this checked out beforehand? Not acceptable to say 'oh well yes I made a commitment but it doesn't suit me any more'. I have piles of rules that I could well do without but I can't pick and choose those that suit me and thioose that don't. I disagree that 6th formers should be treated any differently. Ultimately there's a lot there about self-discipline.

I'm with the Army on this issue.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

No it wasn't lost on me but sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and I didn't want to lower myself to your level.

How self-satisfied that sounds. Do you satisfy yourself regularly
Who ever said that about sarcasm anyway? I think it's a wonderful type of humour that is quintessentially british.

Some rights, and certainly the respect of your elders need to be earned.

When I was in 6th Form I had about 4 lessons in a day. In between lessons I studied, I had workbooks, paper and a pen. I think students these days forget what the pen and paper are for and expect the latest Apple Mac's with internet access to be able to 'study'. Not saying that's the case with the girl in question but if my brother/sister are anything to go by........lazy so and so's. I don't see that major issue with staying at school to study though. Unless there is literally nowhere to sit and read a book and write some notes? What specific equipment does she need to do the course she is on? If it's specialist equipment and is required for her to complete the course then I would say there is room for a complaint. If not, get your head down, study and stop moaning.

Originally Posted by Xan173

Do you satisfy yourself regularly

Sarcastic or not, that is very funny

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by Xan173

I totally agree with Nieo.

If the school is asking students to do something they should do it, and the parents should back the schools.

In this case I suspect the result of allowing choice would be a lot of "home alone" kids. I would prefer it if the students were within the schools care than home alone.

Bottom line. No one goes into the education profession based on a desire to oppress their students. Neither do they go for the pay, conditions or prestige I suspect. So, ask yourselves why you think they teach and then tell me that they're not deserving of our support.

Moving on to the values and views of servicemen and women regarding education, I think this article shows there are proven benefits.

But how is that going to help a self motivated 17yr who wants to work?

So getting students in at 9am to sit around doing nothing for a couple of hours is acceptable?

As for being a "home alone kid" she's hardly a kid is she? She's 17 not 7! There has to be a line between rules for rules sake and using some common sense.

As for ex-servicemen and women being re-trained as teachers yeah it probably does work but those being retrained need to have the right mentality to do the job.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Er not true, not every 17yr old thinks like that. Yes I do agree that some will think like that and will need more guidelines to work by.

No one is disputing the fact that education is broader than just bookwork. But trying to enforce a rule that will be counterproductive to her education is just pointless and will waste her time when she could actually be doing some work

Of course, but in a school you are obliged to be there all day long. You can't have separate rules for every child, and perhaps by being so strict on this rule the other 80% of students benefit.

Whilst I do think that tolerance and understanding absolutely crucial to a civilised society, we also need to learn that things can be crappy sometimes and we just need to get on with it. Rules are sometimes in place for reasons not immediately obvious. Schools need to teach you to think, and having a rigid set of rules is fundamental to that.

Facilities to work are ALWAYS available; schools have their fair share of seats and a pens Maybe not DVDs and TVs, but if there was a course involving doing nothing but watching films, I'd be Professor of it.

Originally Posted by G

You've just googled it and looked at the 2007 list on Wiki havnt you

Yup! But I did think that Africa and the Middle East dominated the list

[dirtydog]

You cant really analyse a film for a media studies course with actually being able to watch it. I don't think it's possible to watch a DVD with a pen and paper