Legal Advice & Education

Originally Posted by G

Sit back and think who has the strongest, fastest growing economy and the smoothest running country at the moment.

Azerbaijan?

Originally Posted by kitkat

I am not saying all squaddies are dumb drones but if you take the time to think (Ive made it a bit easier by quoting you above) before you speak (slowing your typing down would possibly help with spelling) you will see that most of your comments are related to following orders, doing as you are told, not having your own opinion (unless you are told you are allowed to). As for resorting to bad language and name calling doesn't help your case. Its a sign of a poor education and limited vocabulary, something maria's sister is possibly trying to avoid.

Now before all squaddies get their berets in a muddle, I have served in the armed forces myself.

now go and calm yourself down (yes that is an order)

Yes my views are that people should obide the majority of the rules inplace at schools for example. As most are for a reason . I agree that some are draconian and need to be questioned, but come on the requirement to turn up to school on time everyday rather than doing as you want is not one of those to question.

what gets me is by the sounds of it some people are advocating questioning something put in place just because they dont like it, rather than just accepting it and getting on with it.

What next, will students stop wearing uniform as they dont like it and decide its their right not to wear it.

Why is it a lot of people today find it acceptable to rock the boat on evey little thing rather than accepting things for what they are.

Is it that wrong to still believe in certain standards of behaviour and to have standards?

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by neio79

Not true, yes i argue strongley and with passion on some topics. I dont mind people arguing with me as long as they dont make assumptions about my job whrn why havent got a clue!!

I dont shout people down at all, but few people are willing to be as full on as me.

I make no apologies about my style, or lack of it at times. People who have been on here long enough know what makes me go off on one and how strong my feelings are on certain things.

The difference being that as far as you're concerned you're right and everyone who disagrees with you is obviously wrong

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

I tend to agree with Neio here.

At 17 every rule is unreasonable to you the whole world is out to make your life difficult!

Education is broader than solely bookwork. Rules exist in every part of our lives, of which I don't agree with all of them, but need to follow. The earlier you learn this, the earlier you can contribute to society.

Er not true, not every 17yr old thinks like that. Yes I do agree that some will think like that and will need more guidelines to work by.

No one is disputing the fact that education is broader than just bookwork. But trying to enforce a rule that will be counterproductive to her education is just pointless and will waste her time when she could actually be doing some work

[G]

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

Azerbaijan?

You've just googled it and looked at the 2007 list on Wiki havnt you

I'll jump in here - I believe its ok to study where you want, as long as you get the work done and done to a high standard. If your work falters / goes downhill in quality, then perhaps be made to come into school into the "learing" environment. 6th form is still school, yes, but its not compulsary education, and therefore compulsary attendance during school hours should not be enforced aswell. What if the student wishes to study at one of the large public london libraries rather than using the (useless) school libraries, fightin for a space on one of the few computers avaliable to read up on things?

When I was at college, I used to jump on my scooter and ride to a nice quiet park or something and work there. When i was at uni, I used to do work in the Ace Cafe quite often on a wednesday

Originally Posted by dirtydog

The difference being that as far as you're concerned you're right and everyone who disagrees with you is obviously wrong




Er not true, not every 17yr old thinks like that. Yes I do agree that some will think like that and will need more guidelines to work by.

No one is disputing the fact that education is broader than just bookwork. But trying to enforce a rule that will be counterproductive to her education is just pointless and will waste her time when she could actually be doing some work

Thanks for your input, i value you opinion, however on this occasion it does not match mine, therefore you are wrong.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by neio79

Yes my views are that people should obide the majority of the rules inplace at schools for example. As most are for a reason . I agree that some are draconian and need to be questioned, but come on the requirement to turn up to school on time everyday rather than doing as you want is not one of those to question.

what gets me is by the sounds of it some people are advocating questioning something put in place just because they dont like it, rather than just accepting it and getting on with it.

What next, will students stop wearing uniform as they dont like it and decide its their right not to wear it.

Why is it a lot of people today find it acceptable to rock the boat on evey little thing rather than accepting things for what they are.

Is it that wrong to still believe in certain standards of behaviour and to have standards?

So you're saying that she should go in at 9am as the school have requested and sit around for a few hours doing nothing because they cant/wont provide the facilities that she needs to progress her studies?
What a good standard that is!
People aren't advocating questioning something because they don't like it what people are questioning the benefit of going in at 9am to sit and do nothing where she could be at home actually working. Just seems like common sense to me.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by neio79

Thanks for your input, i value you opinion, however on this occasion it does not match mine, therefore you are wrong.

Just about sums you up that does.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

So you're saying that she should go in at 9am as the school have requested and sit around for a few hours doing nothing because they cant/wont provide the facilities that she needs to progress her studies?
What a good standard that is!
People aren't advocating questioning something because they don't like it what people are questioning the benefit of going in at 9am to sit and do nothing where she could be at home actually working. Just seems like common sense to me.

No as i originally said IF the school cant provide the facilities then yes she has a case for going to study else where. However if she is just doing it because she get an extra lay in if she dosent go in till after lunch etc then it wrong.

Or if she is one of many being affected by the lack of facilities then again she shoukd question it.

However if she is the only one and is doing this to rock the boat se should get back iin her box and tow the line as everyone else does.

I also think there is nothing wrong with making sure they turn up and then go away elsewhere to study. By not turning up who is to say she is not just going to stay in bed.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Just about sums you up that does.

The sarcasum was lost on you there then!!