Crossing a footpath to get to my garden

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

That's just being really silly!

No its not.

Unfotunately the only way to cross the pavement with a vehicle for access to property is where a legally installed drop kerb or driveway has been installed.

END OFF-------doesn't matter if you push it as you are still in control same as you are deemed in control of a car if you are sitting in the drivers seat,keys in ignition engine off,hand brake applied and stationery.

The law has some strange quirks which seem unfair regarding prosecutions but the law is the law and the same for everybody just a matter of knowing it, as ignorance is no excuse

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Unfotunately the only way to cross the pavement with a vehicle for access to property is where a legally installed drop kerb or driveway has been installed.

how'd you figure that?

Got a source?

Id read the link I posted as saying that you can cross pavement where you are legally allowed to access the property, so its your property or the owner has given you permission.

If you add in the laws on footpaths, bridleways and restricted roads you're allowed on them where you are within 15yards from the road for the purpose of parking as long as you dont cause an obstruction I'd say theres a lot of evidence that you can do it.

Originally Posted by Spank86

how'd you figure that?

Got a source?

Id read the link I posted as saying that you can cross pavement where you are legally allowed to access the property, so its your property or the owner has given you permission.

If you add in the laws on footpaths, bridleways and restricted roads you're allowed on them where you are within 15yards from the road for the purpose of parking as long as you dont cause an obstruction I'd say theres a lot of evidence that you can do it.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070309

"You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency."

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndC...ng/DG_10026223

"A crossing across a public footpath or verge that allows your vehicle to gain access to your property from the highway is known as a 'dropped kerb' or vehicle crossing."

Sniff has stated he is NOT using a dropped kerb therefore it is Illegal for him to move any form of motor vehicle across the pavement to the road.

One of our drivers got nicked for going across the pavement to deliver to a house.
He stopped ,reversed up a loose chipped driveway on the property to deliver a lathe using the vehicle tail-lift into the customers garage.
When he was exiting the premises a local plod was walking past and pulled him for driving over the pavement.
We contacted our solicitor who explained it to me as I stated in my previous post.

I admit this was a 7.5ton truck but it applies to any mechanical propelled vehicle and although it was a driveway on the property the pavement or kerb had not been incorporated into the access.

Me,I can't tell you if it is right or wrong but only say what happened to us.

[squirrel_hunter]

All I can add is I rode my bike along the pavement (maybe 100 meters or so) to get to the nearest drive when I used to park in the front garden of my Uni house as it was a very high curb. I did this at all times of the day and night multiple times a day for over 2 years. It was also a busy main road in Bristol.

No one said a word about it. Apart from my neighbour once who got distracted by me riding past her she walked past her house completely...

[embee]

Originally Posted by Spank86

Actually, turns out the government advice is:.............
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070309

The trouble with these guides, even if they are from the gov.uk stable, is that they are paraphrased versions dumbed down for us general plebs. You really need to refer to the relevant statutory instrument or act in order to get the definitive version.

In this case they have clearly used the term "pavement" incorrectly, obviously intending to indicate the footway but as pointed out earlier in the thread, the pavement is something different. This is why legal stuff is so carefully drafted (usually) and why dumbing it down doesn't always clarify.

[dizzyblonde]

Well, I got permission from the man with a clipboard on behalf of the council....to push my motorcycle onto my property off the road, over the pavement, over the council owned grass, and into my garden


So ner!

[Dipper]

I think you are right Dizz, if you are pushing your bike it appears from this http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/pushing.html that you are ok to do so and classed as foot passenger, the sentence at the bottom clarifies that this applies to both push bikes and motorbikes.