Sv Cornering

Is it true that a well riden SV (not by me then!) will keep up with IL4 600's bikes in the corners??

[Bluepete]

Yes. Well and truly so.

[squirrel_hunter]

No it will not keep up with IL4 600's.

It will go round the outside and pi$$ on them.

[Balky001]

depends how well the 600 is being ridden

yet the suspension is budget and not truly up to scratch? (devils advocate)

Well I've overtaken the following on trackdays into/out of/round the outside/up the inside of corners (basically I can't remember where, but it won't have been on a straight!):

SV650 pointy
SV650 curvy
600 bandit
888 Ducatis (or something like that, the old shape)
Blackbird
Fire blade
Steel frame CBR 600
R6 (old one)
Some parallel twin classics.
Other bikes...

But I believe so much is down to the rider that on the road what you ride in the twisties isn't too relevant, i.e a good rider on a Honda CB500 will thrash a new/timid rider on a GSXR 600/750/1000. If the riders were the same I think the superior suspension etc of a modern 600SS would outgun the standard SV but I'd be happy to be proved wrong (as I am an SV owner still).

Regardless of the bike you're running against, the SV is more than enough bike to run rings around pretty much any other bike on the road, in the corners.

The ability comes from the riders in question, and the amount of bottle they have, not from the bikes/setup (ok, so I'm simplifying).

Just don't try it on a long straight section, oh, and don't do it on public roads.

Originally Posted by injury_ian

yet the suspension is budget and not truly up to scratch? (devils advocate)

strictly speaking, all other things being equal, a standard supersports il4-600 will go round a corner better than a standard sv650, just because the suspension on a ss600 is so much better at keeping the rubber gripping the tarmac than on the sv

however, if you spend a few ££ - not that many, maybe £200 - on some springs, oil & a zxr/gixxer shock then you'll be on a much more level playing field

the ss600 will still brake into the corner better & accelerate out better, but through the apex you'll be pretty well matched

all the above is pretty academic really, ss600's these days are so good that you have to be a pretty handy rider to get anything like max performance out of them

personally, I very much enjoy beating ss600's/1000's round a track

Originally Posted by weazelz

the ss600 will still brake into the corner better & accelerate out better, but through the apex you'll be pretty well matched

A bit of a generalisation here, but almost all of the IL4's I've been for an unintentional blat with on the public road, have been all over the brakes, climbing all over their bikes with horrible lines (IMO).

I know next to nothing about picking the best line, it's just that they're all over the brakes & I'm not.

It's not really a matter of how good the brakes are, it's more a matter of how good you are at using them. When playing on the roads like that, I rarely go past people because I would consider that a dangerous move. So i just sit on their tail & laugh stupidly at them riding the balls off their machines.

see vids of blue on his track 650!

nuff said!