Non Starter For The Final Time

[squirrel_hunter]

I’ve had enough of this now, this will be the last my bike doesn’t start on an SV I will post.

After coming off of a days ride I park up and hear a high pitched whine from the bike. It reminded me of the last time the battery went and the noise from the alarm which was a red herring. After a few hours it had stopped. The following day I come to start it and it gives me the draining start and the clicking from the solenoid noises I’m all too familiar with.

Battery charged overnight fresh in the bike and the same thing happens. Now the odd thing this time was when I put an old battery in it overnight to keep the alarm going with a reading of 12.8 on the battery when switched on the dash had no lights and no indicator flash from the alarm arming and disarming. All fuses have been checked and are good. But with the freshly charged battery it showed all lights working.

I’m going to do some more tests with it when I get home and I go through all the usual things but I’m open to suggestions as to why I got no dash lights when I would still have expected to see some. I was thinking the earth near the starter had gone but then I would expect to see no lights with both batteries. It looks like its got a massive power drain somewhere.

But I really am fed up of this now. I put a new reg/ rec and new battery on it about 3 months ago and now this. The bike is getting started and then its going.

The Bike: 99 SV650S, Datatool Veto, left hand seat bolt removed to protect wiring. Reg/ rec is a pattern replacement.

Have you thought about just removing the alarm and seeing if you problems continue, it might be stuffed.

im with grinch on this ditch the alarm if it still keeps giving ya problems give me a shout i may take it off ya

Mine was a solalarm, it did similar. Had a quick check of a few things and then decided f'it! ripped out the wires from near the alarm switch under the pillion seat. Problem solved bikes never not started since.

Remove alarm, get a oxford alarm lock thing instead if you want the noise.

[G]

Aftermarket alarms and immoblisier are rediculous really, I dont know THAT many people with aftermarket alarms, but of all the ones I do know they have or have had problems.

[squirrel_hunter]

I’ve looked briefly at removing the alarm before. Trouble is I didn’t put it in there so I’m not sure how easy it will be to take out. But the last time this happened the noise was defiantly a symptom rather than the cause of the problem, however I’ll take a look.

The other problem with removing the alarm will be the insurance question as if it were to go walkabout without it I doubt I’d be covered…

I suspect if you call them up and tell them they will be fine, with the age of the bike I suspect 'premium' on the alarm is not much in relation to its value.

Any ideas on what your going to replace it with, if it does go?

[Speedy]

If you're thinking along the lines of an Earthing problem on your bike, try connecting a single wire, or even a jump lead, directly from the Earth/Negative pole on the battery straight to an unpainted, clean part of the frame, then the engine, as well as leaving the stock cable attatched too.

This by-passes the stock earth wiring. And if there is an issue with a bad earth it should go-away whilst this is connected.

Make sure you do this with THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THE BATTERY THOUGH NOT THE POSITVE.

This worked on a Ford RS Turbo I once owned, it had a broken Earth wire between the Engine and ECU, everytime you flashed the headlights, the engine would cut!!

[squirrel_hunter]

Well only done a quick test as I can't get in the garage and the weather is threatening but I suspect its the reg/ rec again. Battery is at around 13.3 with nothing loading it. Drops down a little when the alarm arms and disarms as I would expect but comes back up fairly quickly.

However when I try to start it the battery drops down to 6amps or so and thus its not enough to get it going.

Tried bridging the solenoid and I get the same response. The connection from the negative terminal to the starter motor shows good continuity. Next step is going to be playing with the reg/ rec with one of my old ones. And if that doesn't work I'll try the alarm, putting this off to last as I have taken a quick look at the maze of wiring before.

As for the question of the replacement, I have an idea. I just need to work out how I pay for it.