chain question

[Wideboy]

trying to put a new did xring chain on and i don't have the chain tool, is it possible to link it without the tool?

i.e. clamp the plate on and then tap the ends over with a punch or is this pushing my luck?, does the plate have to be put on square ect?

any advice mucho welcomed

Possible but not advisable. I broke the last Chain Riveter i had it was rubbish

[Wideboy]

hmm, i cant find one anywhere with out buying off the tinterweb but i need it ASAP

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by Wideboy

trying to put a new did xring chain on and i don't have the chain tool, is it possible to link it without the tool?

i.e. clamp the plate on and then tap the ends over with a punch or is this pushing my luck?, does the plate have to be put on square ect?

any advice mucho welcomed

My local bike shop does it this way and advised my mate to do the same when he asked about borrowing their chain rivetting tool.

Hasn't broken yet on his zx9 and he rides like a loon

Tbh id do it, but its probably not as secure as a riveter.

[Wideboy]

so how would i do it, bring them together with some sort of cramping device in the middle of the plate?

obviously the joint shouldn't be to tight against the other one so the link can still move, maybe so they can still move?

If you think about it the chain isnt pulling on the link that youve "rivited" anyway so it should be fine... for picece of mind its best to use a riviter imho

[maviczap]

Depends how hard you hit it with a hammer!

I bet I could exert more Newtons with a hammer than I could with a riveter, so the link could be overtightend I guess, which might not be a good thing.

But less secure? H'mm wiould depend on the kind of joining rivit and how you finish off the head of the rivet, as to how secure it's going to be using the hammer method.

In an emergency you could use the hammer method and then repalace it with a new joining rivet once you've got a rivet tool to hand

[Wideboy]

lol looks likes it going to be a "feck it and see what happens" job

should be able to do it, its just taping the ends over, the metal looks hard so its going to take some brute force to do it

I just fitted a new D.I.D chain..
Put the link on, put a 8mm nut on top of the link, and clamped with a plyers..
Then once both links came through, flattened them off with a hammer..