Suspension Suppliers & Prices

Originally Posted by weazelz

http://shop.wemoto.com/index.dyn?oid=5835675

Cheers for that Weazelz. Just wanted to confirm I only need to replace the oil seals:

http://shop.wemoto.com/pictures.dyn?u=5835675qqq3622478

and not the dust seals too?

http://shop.wemoto.com/pictures.dyn?u=5835675qqq25674

Mr. Haynes seems to suggest only the former, but I thought it was worth checking. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by chunkytfg

Your point?

Two words Chunks - paid sycophant!!

{BBC voice on} "Or other reputable suppliers"

Originally Posted by chunkytfg

Harris are the Uk distributer

If I wanted a Nitron or WP or for that matter any other type of shock you could still go to SJM for it.

eye tis correct. But speaking and making recommendations from experience and knowledge doesnt always get you far when a question is asked it seems.

I race and own a dealership and have ridden hundreds of bikes for over 12 years now therefore i know a fair bit and can make comparisons. I may sell Ohlins dampers but would recommend you buy a GPR instead..i try to remain unbiased and base my recommendations from experience.

Final word..get the best you can afford and something that is made and developed for the bike. Cant go wrong with that!

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Two words Chunks - paid sycophant!!

{BBC voice on} "Or other reputable suppliers"

I wish!!

I do however have no problem recommending anyone who IMO deserves it.

For example if you wanted Honda bits then i'd recomend www.powerbiking.co.uk/Brian greys motorcycles as my past dealings with them have always been very helpful. I dont get anythng out of them for the recommendation they are just a pleasure to deal with.

You might iyo call me a sycophant(had to look it up by the way!!) but i just see it as praising those that deserve it.

Originally Posted by SV650Racer

But speaking and making recommendations from experience and knowledge doesnt always get you far when a question is asked it seems.
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I have noticed that too!!

SJ, you need to accept that there are other people out there that have had experience too, many more than you even ... also people that have different 'angles' on the same subject ...

In summery your viewpoint IS valid, but is far from the definitive answer!!l!! Other peoples viewpoints (like mine*) ARE valid too ... but again not definitive ... the idea of a forum is to get the opinions/info out there and let the individual make a more 'informed' decision from it.

*however much you don't like it, fact is you need to accept that what I have to say is from experience too Also that I race (certainly have-raced) bikes, and by the sounds of it been riding longer than you. So my opinion IS valid and what you say doesn't automatically overrule it Just different opinions and perhaps experience on the same topic ...

Finally just coz you can 'afford' a race shock doesn't mean it makes sense to buy one ... i.e. even if you have the cash, most people could spend that money in much 'better' ways (presuming money isn't in simple abundance) ...

Here is a similar example to demonstrate what I mean:-

Someone says 'Thinking about getting some tools to do some home spannering as me old ones are shot, what do you recommend and where do I get them from?!'

Its a no-brainer that a company like Snap-On supply the best tools and these would do the job superbly ... but I turn round and say 'I love Snap-On, but I have taken my full bike apart with a Draper set and it worked just fine' ...

So, bearing in mind they are many times the price of Draper and Draper would do the job well, buying Snap-On tools surely would only really make sense if you spanner by trade or just, well have lots of cash and want the best ... Even if they had the money for a snap-on toolset, with the knowledge that a Draper set will do the job more than adequately, I would have thought that 90% of home mechanics would probably prefer to buy a Draper tools as they make more financial sense and spend the rest on loose women ... which lets face it is money much more wisely spent!!!

BTW I have a couple of Snap-On spanners and a 3/8 ratchet and they are great, the quality is plain to see/feel ... but I have never 'bought' Snap-On tools ... no I didn't nick them, they were presents ... even though I have experienced the quality of Snap-On, I could never justify the expense for my usage .... hence never have and probably never will buy any ...

If you are still awake, does any of this make any sense to you?!

Oh and although it's not 'designed' for it, a 3/8 spanner fits most 10mm nuts real well, I have certainly undone many a 10mm bolt with a 3/8 spanner!!

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Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

In summery your viewpoint IS valid, but is far from the definitive answer!!l!! Other peoples viewpoints (like mine*) ARE valid too ... but again not definitive ... the idea of a forum is to get the opinions/info out there and let the individual make a more 'informed' decision from it.

Play fair, you're not the best at accepting other people's opinion now are you?

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Here is a similar example to demonstrate what I mean:-

Someone says 'Thinking about getting some tools to do some home spannering as me old ones are shot, what do you recommend and where do I get them from?!'

Its a no-brainer that a company like Snap-On supply the best tools and these would do the job superbly ... but I turn round and say 'I love Snap-On, but I have taken my full bike apart with a Draper set and it worked just fine' ...

So, bearing in mind they are many times the price of Draper and Draper would do the job well, buying Snap-On tools surely would only really make sense if you spanner by trade or just, well have lots of cash and want the best ... Even if they had the money for a snap-on toolset, with the knowledge that a Draper set will do the job more than adequately, I would have thought that 90% of home mechanics would probably prefer to buy a Draper tools as they make more financial sense and spend the rest on loose women ... which lets face it is money much more wisely spent!!!

BTW I have a couple of Snap-On spanners and a 3/8 ratchet and they are great, the quality is plain to see/feel ... but I have never 'bought' Snap-On tools ... no I didn't nick them, they were presents ... even though I have experienced the quality of Snap-On, I could never justify the expense for my usage .... hence never have and probably never will buy any ...

If you are still awake, does any of this make any sense to you?!

As long-winded as that is (not that I can criticise about long winded posts ) that's a very good analogy.

Some people just want it as cheap as possible, but that will just about do the job (for a short while, before needing replacing)- okay buy a low mileage SV shock, or to use your example, some no-brand value store tools.

Some people want a bit better, but aren't prepared/able to fork out much more, get a ninja/gsx-r shock or some draper tools.

Others want a good one, but can't justify the cost of the top level ones, okay, get a Nitron or Hyperpro SV shock or halfords professional tools.

For others, money is no object, or they really do crave every last drop of performance. Fine, snap on tools and penske/Ohlins shock it is.

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Guess what? Next week I'll be fitting my new Nitron shock with my halfords professional tools.

Originally Posted by northwind

Play fair, you're not the best at accepting other people's opinion now are you?

That's not 100% true Northy ... however much of a bellend you are, I value your opinion on anything SV ... if it is SV related and if you haven't done it, then it isn't worth doing or can't be done!!!!

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

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Precisely, a great analogy that works at all levels of comparrison even if I say so myself ... basically 'the best' isn't always the best solution ... its pocket, desire and application dependent ... there are generally different levels available too ... its up to the punter to then judge the level they are after ...

Going for 'the best' is a no-brainer, but generally needs deep pockets ... its safe to assume most people pockets don't run as deep as they would like

I actually had the money for an Ohlins, but it took me a long time to convince myself to go for one as it just didn't make financial sense to me at first ... if I hadn't had an urge to race it, it still wouldn't