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19-04-05, 06:44 PM

Sorry to hear that, glad your ok! Hope all goes well with the claim!!

19-04-05, 07:19 PM

I have learnt something today and I hope that my experience will help someone on here. I do hope this does not come across as arrogant it is not my intention.

No matter how much you factor in, no matter how careful you are the other guy can and still get you even if they are not really trying. I came out of this unscathed, I don't even ache at the moment in fact I have just come back in from the garage where I am prepping my other bike ready for use tomorrow.

Was I lucky to not be injured? I don't believe so I believe that I am okay because I had built in sufficient safety margin that even if the nutter got me I would survive.

My riding has developed over the last couple of years, I can ride faster than I did but choose when to do so much more carefully, I can filter fast but choose not to. I can overtake without thinking of it but I choose to consider every overtake very carefully.

Ride with a margin that allows for other peoples errors not just your own and rememeber that any crash you walk away from is a good crash.

Sid Squid · 19-04-05, 07:20 PM

Bummer.

Glad to hear you're not hurt.

19-04-05, 07:31 PM

Good to hear you are OK Patch.
He picked the wrong person to hit didn't he

Give the insurers hell Patch mate, I await the outcome with interest

19-04-05, 07:35 PM

Sorry to hear about your off, but really glad you've walked away from it.

Top marks too for not jumping on the personal injuries bandwagon. I wish more people had the same integrity.

19-04-05, 07:52 PM

good to hear you're ok... regularly have drivers pull out in front of me on my commute, at varyong distances ahead of me... never enough to cause an accident and easy enough to avoid but always concerned someone may do something like this

Hope it all goes through OK - insurance companies seem hellbent on making sure their people always try and go for part/no liability these days, even if they admit it at the scene... even RAC stuff says to never admit liability... sad world

19-04-05, 07:55 PM

Oh - and when I was knocked off my last bike (from behind of all places... while waiting at traffic lights...) I didn't see the point of personal injury as it was minor stuff, but went along with the insurance co and they offered £1100 for the injury. Not exactly what I was interested in going for, but if they want to give it and it helps go towards the next bike (especially with their payouts always being less than you really need to get the replacement bike) then I'm happy to accept it. Only got £1800 for the bike itself, which isn't much towards the next bike!

19-04-05, 07:59 PM

Bad luck Patch! At least it wasn't a police car this time!

I hate people like this, sometimes glance over when filtering/ overtaking and they have never seen you sadly.

Chin up, see you in soho another time.

Dan

Viney · 19-04-05, 08:09 PM

Bloody hooligan! Glad you are ok. Mates R1100S went down gently. £3000 repiar bill!

19-04-05, 08:10 PM

Glad to hear you're okay, Patch; I didn't find your post arrogant in any way - helpful to hear about defensive riding and to be aware that what any biker can try to do is minimise the chances of injury but not rule out the crash if someone else behaves like a ****

I had a couple of minor incidents today - one when a Range Rover drove across my line at a roundabout and the second when a complete nutter overtook me and three cars in a stream of traffic when there no real room to do so slammed the brakes going into a nearly non existent space.

A minute later I filtered past him so what was the point of all that??

Given my relatively recent return to biking I am pretty cautious but can feel myself getting angry when I see such careless/aggressive driving... so need to work on letting it go...

19-04-05, 07:20 PM	#13
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Bummer. Glad to hear you're not hurt. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

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19-04-05, 06:44 PM	#11
SVSilver Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry to hear that, glad your ok! Hope all goes well with the claim!!

19-04-05, 07:19 PM	#12
Patch Guest Posts: n/a	I have learnt something today and I hope that my experience will help someone on here. I do hope this does not come across as arrogant it is not my intention. No matter how much you factor in, no matter how careful you are the other guy can and still get you even if they are not really trying. I came out of this unscathed, I don't even ache at the moment in fact I have just come back in from the garage where I am prepping my other bike ready for use tomorrow. Was I lucky to not be injured? I don't believe so I believe that I am okay because I had built in sufficient safety margin that even if the nutter got me I would survive. My riding has developed over the last couple of years, I can ride faster than I did but choose when to do so much more carefully, I can filter fast but choose not to. I can overtake without thinking of it but I choose to consider every overtake very carefully. Ride with a margin that allows for other peoples errors not just your own and rememeber that any crash you walk away from is a good crash.

19-04-05, 07:31 PM	#14
Baldyman Guest Posts: n/a	Good to hear you are OK Patch. He picked the wrong person to hit didn't he Give the insurers hell Patch mate, I await the outcome with interest

19-04-05, 07:35 PM	#15
Cronos Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry to hear about your off, but really glad you've walked away from it. Top marks too for not jumping on the personal injuries bandwagon. I wish more people had the same integrity.

19-04-05, 07:52 PM	#16
SVeeedy Gonzales Guest Posts: n/a	good to hear you're ok... regularly have drivers pull out in front of me on my commute, at varyong distances ahead of me... never enough to cause an accident and easy enough to avoid but always concerned someone may do something like this Hope it all goes through OK - insurance companies seem hellbent on making sure their people always try and go for part/no liability these days, even if they admit it at the scene... even RAC stuff says to never admit liability... sad world

19-04-05, 07:55 PM	#17
SVeeedy Gonzales Guest Posts: n/a	Oh - and when I was knocked off my last bike (from behind of all places... while waiting at traffic lights...) I didn't see the point of personal injury as it was minor stuff, but went along with the insurance co and they offered £1100 for the injury. Not exactly what I was interested in going for, but if they want to give it and it helps go towards the next bike (especially with their payouts always being less than you really need to get the replacement bike) then I'm happy to accept it. Only got £1800 for the bike itself, which isn't much towards the next bike!

19-04-05, 07:59 PM	#18
Sudoxe Guest Posts: n/a	Bad luck Patch! At least it wasn't a police car this time! I hate people like this, sometimes glance over when filtering/ overtaking and they have never seen you sadly. Chin up, see you in soho another time. Dan

19-04-05, 08:09 PM	#19
Viney Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the shadows to the left Posts: 7,700	Bloody hooligan! Glad you are ok. Mates R1100S went down gently. £3000 repiar bill!

19-04-05, 08:10 PM	#20
Steve W Guest Posts: n/a	Glad to hear you're okay, Patch; I didn't find your post arrogant in any way - helpful to hear about defensive riding and to be aware that what any biker can try to do is minimise the chances of injury but not rule out the crash if someone else behaves like a **** I had a couple of minor incidents today - one when a Range Rover drove across my line at a roundabout and the second when a complete nutter overtook me and three cars in a stream of traffic when there no real room to do so slammed the brakes going into a nearly non existent space. A minute later I filtered past him so what was the point of all that?? Given my relatively recent return to biking I am pretty cautious but can feel myself getting angry when I see such careless/aggressive driving... so need to work on letting it go...