Anyone have experience breeding dogs?

[squirrel_hunter]

Sounds like you're going to have to show him how its done...

[21QUEST]

An interesting post...

Okay, my first post on site for yonks and I get to choose a corker...well, such is the way of these things .

I agree with the general thrust of gruntygiggles's post but I'm going to be even more serious than that. I'd probably cause some offence with my reply but sometimes, the best way, is to be brutally honest/frank.

I see it .like this.... I haven't read any other reason why you think your dogs(lovely as they are ) deserve to be bred, especially as you apparently have no idea about the initial copulation(can you sue that for dogs? hah!) stage....

You also seemingly don't even know the actual cross of one of the dogs....leaves you with oven less information to hedge your bet regards what characteristics/temperament you could likely be dealing with.

I don't have a problem with 'crosses' , provided the person doing the breeding has put good thought into it, hopefully knows what's behind the dogs and has a better goal in mind than just "putting two dogs together". There are plenty of folks already doing that. The 'Rescue' problem is helped along nicely by such breedings.

You are hedghing bets that the bitch should only have 2/3, which hopefully have homes already sorted for. Well, people change their minds , even family....The full up 'Rescues' tells us as much.

Also, the Bitch is certainly not guaranteed to have 2/3.

Lastly, as gruntygiggles mentioned, things don't always go as planned. Are you prepared for the eventuality of a C-section? Are you prepared for your Bitch to possible die whilst whelping or during a c-section? Are you prepared to then have to hand rear the pups. arte you prepared for all [possible problems before, during and after whelping?

Are all the above things you've thought about and decided, it's worth the risk.....

As said, don't really mean to cause offence but sometimes, there is only one way to tell it "as it is" . I've had to cut the post short,as I could feel myself starting to get 'going' ...which would then certainly then be ill mannered of me.

I think it's great that they hopefully haven't yet had a successful mating....don't always need 'a tie' by the way....as it gives you a chance to re-evaluate what did seem a nice idea.


All the Best

[Biker Biggles]

Id agree with that---------To paraphrase----Dont do it,get a rescue dog.

[NTECUK]

Ok I tell you.little story of mum's samoyed.
This is proper pedigree bredding ,so before they had the go-ahead the 2 dogs need hip scoreing £250.
Then when the picked a dog and had a successful matting after 3 days . You sit back and wait.
The bitch had a discharge 3 weeks before due day ,of to the vets , ultra sound ,and injection .
Back next 3 days injections and ultra sounds.
Decided emergency delivery .3 pups dead 1 only lasted 48 hrs.
In total the vets bill was £1800.
Hope you think about insurance .
Know mum was relved pet plan payed out.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

An interesting post...

Okay, my first post on site for yonks and I get to choose a corker...well, such is the way of these things .

I agree with the general thrust of gruntygiggles's post but I'm going to be even more serious than that. I'd probably cause some offence with my reply but sometimes, the best way, is to be brutally honest/frank.

I see it .like this.... I haven't read any other reason why you think your dogs(lovely as they are ) deserve to be bred, especially as you apparently have no idea about the initial copulation(can you sue that for dogs? hah!) stage....

You also seemingly don't even know the actual cross of one of the dogs....leaves you with oven less information to hedge your bet regards what characteristics/temperament you could likely be dealing with.

I don't have a problem with 'crosses' , provided the person doing the breeding has put good thought into it, hopefully knows what's behind the dogs and has a better goal in mind than just "putting two dogs together". There are plenty of folks already doing that. The 'Rescue' problem is helped along nicely by such breedings.

You are hedghing bets that the bitch should only have 2/3, which hopefully have homes already sorted for. Well, people change their minds , even family....The full up 'Rescues' tells us as much.

Also, the Bitch is certainly not guaranteed to have 2/3.

Lastly, as gruntygiggles mentioned, things don't always go as planned. Are you prepared for the eventuality of a C-section? Are you prepared for your Bitch to possible die whilst whelping or during a c-section? Are you prepared to then have to hand rear the pups. arte you prepared for all [possible problems before, during and after whelping?

Are all the above things you've thought about and decided, it's worth the risk.....

As said, don't really mean to cause offence but sometimes, there is only one way to tell it "as it is" . I've had to cut the post short,as I could feel myself starting to get 'going' ...which would then certainly then be ill mannered of me.

I think it's great that they hopefully haven't yet had a successful mating....don't always need 'a tie' by the way....as it gives you a chance to re-evaluate what did seem a nice idea.


All the Best

+1

I come from a family with huge amounts of experience in breeding pedigree and world championship winning Golden Retrievers so I have a fair idea what I am talking about when it comes to this. 21Q is bang on the money.

The mix of breeds is the first thing that screams no. You could end up with pups that have health problems OR horrible temperaments, maybe even being prone to biting. Certain breedings do not mix well - lab/collie cross can be known to be nippy dogs for example.

Secondly, just because your bitch is small, does not mean she will have a smaller amount of pups.

Would you know what to do when the bitch goes into labour? Would you even know the signs? Its not like she starts moaning about her contractions! Would you know how to feed the pups, or what to do with a runt?

Do the sensible thing. Please.

[appollo1]

+1

On the comments regarding going to a rescue and give a dog that through no fault of their own is looking for a new home. (blatant plug - look at my sig for German Shepherd Rescue)

[punyXpress]

You might end up with one ( or a dozen! ) of these:

Originally Posted by hongman

No, one's a Jack X Chuwankwank and the other is Jack x Daschhound or something like that.

Chihuahua and Dachshund are the words you are looking for. And 2 crossbreeds bred to further mixup the original pedigree lines (pedigrees that can be fraught with their own issues without being crossed! Besides which, do we really need more snappy anklebiters in the world?

Crossbreeding used to be a very carefully thought out process, to gain the nicest or worst temperaments depending on what the dogs were to be used for. Now it's fashionable, I get uncomfortable hearing about cockerpoos, labradoodles, jackahuas and the hundreeds of other combos people chuck together, I just can't agree with it. When done for the right reasons in a working capacity with people knowing exactly what they're doing it's far less of an issue but looking at two dogs and just wondering what their puppies will turn out like really pi$$es me off.

As GG, 21Q and MBK have all said, it's not just as simple as getting them together and popping out puppies, if she's a small dog and it's her first birth it could get very complicated. Small does not mean less puppies by any means, she'll just have smaller pups. I don't know many dogs that stop at 3 pups, litters can get pretty large. Besides which, if the male is much larger than her then you could even have the issues of larger pups inside small mum = nightmare.

Originally Posted by hongman

This would be the responsible thing to do - but the 3 people we have lined up are set on our pups!

Once these pups are born (if you are successful) then they are your responsibility. It is up to you to make sure they go to good homes, not just handed out to anyone who fancies a cute ball of fluff but dedicated dog-owners to be. Rescue homes are full to bursting already, if your pups end up being further crossbred and adding to the load then you are just going to be contributing to a growing problem in this country. There are enough unwanted pups in this world already. Plus they'll eat you out of house and home until you can home them, assuming you can. Then there's puppy vaccinations and all the rest of it, it's not cheap.

And this is of course assuming they are not stillborn after a difficult birth. Not that I wish to spread doom and gloom but I don't personally agree with breeding for the sake of it. Everyone's at it, if they're not putting dogs together they're losing control of their pets and the accident happens in the street without you knowing.

Anyway, my 2p worth. I hope if you choose to go ahead then it's all rosy but unfortunately life is not always kind in that way. Putting your beloved dog through a potentially dangerous puppybirth is a risk you will have to take if getting pups is so important to you.

I agree, why breed cross breeds? We bred our two cockers twice, with no issues, except the last time, three years ago now the bitch had to have an injection as she was taking too long to deliver, then an x ray to make sure they were all out, reult 100 qhid bill, but both times six healthy pups, since then the dog has turned gay/ doesn't have a clue how to do it any more.
When she is in season he is a nightmare, stops eating for a week, and won't leave her alone.

Yeah hong. My god.