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The Basket
28-06-06, 08:30 AM
Tierry Henry is a cheat!
Holding his face like that when he never touched him. Disgraceful.
Peter Henry
28-06-06, 08:49 AM
Basket...Such antics are unfortunately common place and the sooner such incidents are punished after studying video evidence after games, the better. Spain have the biggest jerk for that kind of thing with Fernando Torres.It is impossible for the 3 onfield officials to spot all of the nonsense that goes on.
Henry acting like a knob though, did not at all cheat Spain from the victory, they simply once more failed poorly. France snuffed out their attacking options with ease and when Zizou put "the best defender in europe" Puyol, on his **** to score,just summed Spain up completely for me. :wink:
"the best defender in europe" Puyol
My **** he is :lol:
Let's see....... there's Nesta & Cannavarro, Ferdinand & Terry (and Campbell and Carragher), Gallas, etc.......
If he was that good, Chelsea would have bought, or tried to buy, him :D
Oh, and Thierry Henry [-X
Peter Henry
28-06-06, 09:24 AM
Jabba...I agree with you all the way mate! :P
Jabba...I agree with you all the way mate! :P
Date noted for future reference :wink:
Conrad Poons
28-06-06, 01:36 PM
"Some of the referee's decisions today were horrendous. Next time I should learn how to dive maybe but I'm not a woman so I stay on my feet".
Thierry Henrys post Champions League Final comment.
The Basket
28-06-06, 04:33 PM
I like to see a sport of human endeavour.
Not a bunch of overpaid primadonas kicking a bag of wind about.
Henry is not alone is this but it spoils the game for me.
In Rugby League, the players do get hit in the face but don't roll around like they have just been shot. Ohhhh....FIFA should look at this and start banning divers and cheaters.
FIFA should look at this and start banning divers and cheaters.
=D>
Robben will be first against the wall come the revolution :wink:
Peter Henry
28-06-06, 07:01 PM
FIFA could have done something about this nonsense for years and have never done so,what will make them change now?
So Neville fit and raring to firm up the English defence. Who would you drop to allow him in the starting line up? Hargreaves who has peformed admirably in two full games now or Caddick who quietly got on with his job against Ecuador? :-k
Caddick who quietly got on with his job against Ecuador? :-k
Thought he bowled for Somerset? :?
Oh..........Carrick ](*,)
Bye-bye Hargreaves. Not let anyone down, but Carrick is a class act IMHO.
Peter Henry
28-06-06, 08:45 PM
Jab..stop being pedantic...I was going to put Carsick! :P
Conrad Poons
29-06-06, 07:18 AM
I admire a lot of Carricks play, however Hargreaves is the better tackler and in the holding role this becomes ever more important the better the opposition. Of course, you could play both and drop Lampard who, for me, just hasn't turned up at this World Cup.
after my awesome prediction from a couple of days ago - brasil going out to ghana - put yer money on this one
rooney and lampard to both score saturday, robinson man of the match.
conrad, totally agree about lampard, been shocking. but there's always that doubt about dropping a player that good, (and lets be honest he is good), and i feel saturday he and robinson will come to the party
after my awesome prediction from a couple of days ago - brasil going out to ghana - put yer money on this one
rooney and lampard to both score saturday, robinson man of the match.
conrad, totally agree about lampard, been shocking. but there's always that doubt about dropping a player that good, (and lets be honest he is good), and i feel saturday he and robinson will come to the party
We shall see Keith, to be honest i'd like to see Lampard dropped
DanDare
29-06-06, 08:13 AM
after my awesome prediction from a couple of days ago - brasil going out to ghana - put yer money on this one
rooney and lampard to both score saturday, robinson man of the match.
conrad, totally agree about lampard, been shocking. but there's always that doubt about dropping a player that good, (and lets be honest he is good), and i feel saturday he and robinson will come to the party
We shall see Keith, to be honest i'd like to see Lampard dropped
I'm a Chelsea fan and think he's brilliant there. However he has been pants in this tournament, bit of a glory boy. Though I think he will come up with goods soon.
Law of Sod, he's got to start playing well at some stage.
after my awesome prediction from a couple of days ago - brasil going out to ghana - put yer money on this one
rooney and lampard to both score saturday, robinson man of the match.
conrad, totally agree about lampard, been shocking. but there's always that doubt about dropping a player that good, (and lets be honest he is good), and i feel saturday he and robinson will come to the party
We shall see Keith, to be honest i'd like to see Lampard dropped
I'm a Chelsea fan and think he's brilliant there. However he has been pants in this tournament, bit of a glory boy. Though I think he will come up with goods soon.
Law of Sod, he's got to start playing well at some stage.
Mmm but might as well start now there might not be another game in this tournament
Interesting to see a couple of the referees are not required for the rest of the tournament after their lacklusture performances.
Interesting to see a couple of the referees are not required for the rest of the tournament after their lacklusture performances.
the mighty graham 3 card trick poll being one of them.
and the nutter ref who dished up 16 yellows and 4 reds in a game with 22 fouls in total! :shock:
Conrad Poons
29-06-06, 09:15 AM
Keith: Lampard is good. At Premiership level. I cannot recall ever seeing him dominate a game in the Champions League, let alone international level. He's scored goals but take those away and there's precious little left. For me he should be Gerrards understudy and nothing more.
Like I say, his form dictates dropping him, but I share your view that he can't keep missing them forever.
Not complaining too much as we're in the quarter finals with 3 of our 4 first choice midfielders performing way below par! I just hope we get some big performances on Saturday from all 11.
thats a good spot and a good point re lampard and champions league/england games. i've not seen him run the show in the way gerrard so clearly has done many times in the past ...
GERRARD OUT
fact
Peter Henry
29-06-06, 09:27 AM
The Lampard issue is at long last a true test for Sven. Let's not forget that the rest of the team are also conscious of Lampard falling way below expectations. I would have no reservations about leaving him out,if only as a slap. Mourinho at Chelsea would not accept this level of performance from him I can assure you of that!
If we get through to the semi's Lampard could be used again as he may then adopt the "I'll show you" mentality which can only be good.
However we all know,leave him out against Portugal and we lose, then the press and fans then have the perfect noose to hang Sven with. He just cannot win in that situation. It is whether he has the cojones to pro actively decide which sword he is going to fall on. The leave Lampard in, or the sack him and get more out of Gerrard.
For me it is a total no brainer decision.
there's room for both of them i'm sure
midfield of carrick in front of back 4
smokey beckham right, joey cole left, "super" frank middle, gerrard in front of frank just behind rooney
gerrard has more of a roving role, first to support rooney when we have the ball, frank first to support carrick when we don't.
Peter Henry
29-06-06, 09:35 AM
Keith...So you are all for binning Owen Hargreaves then? Odd when the formation you suggest is pretty similar to how Owen acts as a minder for the forward orientated Ballack with Bayern. I am not at all sure that Carrick would perform that role better than Hargreaves who is so used to it? :-k
Keith...So you are all for binning Owen Hargreaves then? Odd when the formation you suggest is pretty similar to how Owen acts as a minder for the forward orientated Ballack with Bayern. I am not at all sure that Carrick would perform that role better than Hargreaves who is so used to it? :-k
no, stick him at right back. neville is fit (phwoaar) but has missed 3 matches where we've done all right. hargreaves probably had his best game in an england shirt since 2002 world cup as a right back.
problem is neville and smokey know each other inside out, reckon becks is missing his mate....
Conrad Poons
29-06-06, 09:39 AM
Keith, your formation is what I'd play but have Hargreaves, Carrick, Gerrard as the spine of the midfield through the middle behind Rooney. A p*ssed off Lampard on the bench with a point to prove if it doesn't start well...
Neville at right back. Him and Beckham work well together.
Peter Henry
29-06-06, 09:40 AM
Fair point sir. :wink:(Keith)
sir keith.
has a certain ring to it.
keithd knighted for his services to ****ing people off.
c'mon your madge, you know you wanna.
Filipe M.
29-06-06, 01:26 PM
Interesting reading... (http://www.sportinglife.com/fanzine/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/06/29/manual_122315.html)
DanDare
29-06-06, 01:31 PM
Interesting reading... (http://www.sportinglife.com/fanzine/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/06/29/manual_122315.html)
Lets hope he can silence his critics Saturday.
Whats the feeling over there? Is the populice confident or not.
What has the press been saying?
is it true Ronaldo is fit to play?
Peter Henry
29-06-06, 01:34 PM
Felipe...there is not a lot one could argue with there. I have noticed Ronaldinho being completely anonymous and the Swedish guy was a complete waste of a shirt. :wink:
Conrad Poons
29-06-06, 01:37 PM
is it true Ronaldo is fit to play?
Be surprised if he isn't...
is it true Ronaldo is fit to play?
Be surprised if he isn't...
yeah, it was a nastyish cut to his leg but he's had the best part of a week for it to heal.
he'll play fo sho
Filipe M.
29-06-06, 01:46 PM
Interesting reading... (http://www.sportinglife.com/fanzine/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/06/29/manual_122315.html)
Lets hope he can silence his critics Saturday.
Whats the feeling over there? Is the populice confident or not.
What has the press been saying?
THB I haven't been paying that much attention to the press, I don't even know if Ronaldo's fit or not. I'm a bit annoyed by the ultra exagerated coverage the world championship is getting, so I tend to keep away from it.
From what I've been seeing there are great deals of confidence going on, based on our previous victories over England (Euro's 2000 and 2004 are still fresh in the memories)...
IMO, I won't be surprised whatever the end result is, as long as it's a fair game. These are two very strong teams, wether we like it or not, and both are capable of the best or worse, all in the same game. For instance, we have proved we can play world class football before, but then get a midfielder booked for playing with his hand in the middle of friggin' nowhere. :roll:
So roll on saturday, and may the best team win fair and square. I know I'll be cheering whoever goes through (you guys have a lot to do with it, I consider this forum my second family so it's only fair that I do so), and may the winner take Berlin. :)
Peter Henry
29-06-06, 01:54 PM
Filipe...Ever the diplomat. Come on admit it you think England are sh+t! :P
So roll on saturday, and may the best team win fair and square....
nope. sod that. may england win. however that comes about :wink: :wink:
:D :D :D :D :D
Filipe M.
29-06-06, 01:59 PM
Filipe...Ever the diplomat. Come on admit it you think England are sh+t! :P
Nope, Spain and France are sh*t, England isn't! :P
Filipe M.
29-06-06, 01:59 PM
So roll on saturday, and may the best team win fair and square....
nope. sod that. may england win. however that comes about :wink: :wink:
:D :D :D :D :D
Sorry, Graham Poll is already out of the competition. :P
Peter Henry
29-06-06, 02:10 PM
I am sure Christiano will play,but perhaps in a role least expected. I think Big Phil will play Figo and Simao as his wide men and give them free license to swap wings when it suits them.
Against England I think Ronaldo will be more of a threat playing in front of the England central defenders. I would get him to play in the zone marked by John Terry and attempt to pull him out of position. For the first half I would maybe get Ronaldo to just give and go and not hold the ball at all. Then later perhaps when England feel they have his game plan sussed, take them on with the ball at his feet.
The reason I say this is, that good as Terry is he is a no frills old fashioned type of centre half. This makes him I believe prone to charging in at times and a skillful player can make him pay for that,(remember the champions league game and his attempted body check of Ronaldinho?)
England also need to bare in mind that Ronaldo is a very good header of the ball and any set piece hesitation could once again see them punished.
Having said all of that we have got Geoff Hurst on the bench so no worries! :P
Quiet in here, innit?
I'm looking forward to this afternoon's match - clash of styles, and home support vs natural talent.
I don't mind who wins, just hope it's a good game :D
Peter Henry
30-06-06, 10:57 AM
Jab....Klinsman's "New Wolrd Order" side have taken many surprised with their attacking flair rather than traditional conservative playing style. I even have to admit that I have enjoyed watching them play.
Argentina have not played anyone of note yet and this is their first true test. A team that can attack them with purpose could gain reward, as back in Argentina leading in to the competition people were concerned about their defence.
If the Germans can keep Riquelme controlled then it could be all over for the corn beef eaters. :P
Peter Henry
30-06-06, 12:05 PM
Ha...It looks like Sven has been dealt a "get out of jail" card if he wishes to use it. Fat Frank turned his ankle in training yesterday and is presently a doubtful starter. I am afraid that woulñd be my perfect excuse to drop him from the starting line up. :wink:
After all if he cant hit the side of a bus with two good ankles, what the hell is going to happen now with a dodgy one?
Peter Henry
30-06-06, 01:36 PM
My in laws are in sunny Southport at the mo. Spanish MIL and Portugese FIL. MIL got knocked over by a car the other day! (True)
I could not resist sending her a text saying, throwing herself under a car was a bit extreme just because Spain lost! :P :P :P
"Fat Frank" has been training and will be fit (question of degree methinks!!), but Mr C Ronaldo hasn't trained and is doubtful for the match :D
Peter Henry
30-06-06, 02:33 PM
Well "cometh the hour,cometh the man" as they say. England have not really played a good side yet and I have evry belief that they will raise their game to meet the challenge.
Today's games?
Germany just by maybe, 2-1 or 1-0 and Italy on pens against Ukraine.
The Basket
30-06-06, 06:08 PM
The Germans and penalties...you can't beat them :D
The truth is that the best side seems to never win the World Cup...Hope for England yet!
Nice punch up at the end too. I would have watched just for that. :D
The Basket
30-06-06, 06:45 PM
Ukraine V Italy
The game needs a goal early doors else this has the hallmarks of a cure for insomnia.
Peter Henry
01-07-06, 08:51 AM
Well it's not a day of "England expects" more one of "England hopes" I think. Up to now no bum team has progressed past this stage. I am very nervous as my England shirt which has been proudly worn for all of the previous matches,is still in the laundry basket and I will not be able wear it. (I get freaked by things like this.)
Fingers crossed I will be with the hoardes in "The Old Bailey" bar on Marbella sea front this affo.
Argentina? WTF? So poor. You have to question Peckerman. Ok take off Crespo as he has not had a sniff and run himself ragged playing the lone striker role. But to take off Riquelme and not give Messi a run...a player who can upset the best of defences......was sheer madness in my mind. :shock:
I have to say though the Argie peeps in Marbella,(there are 100's of them) seemed to take their demise very well as I passed many of them when taking Roxy for her stroll last evening. :wink:
Nice punch up at the end too. I would have watched just for that. :D
Yeah - Mick McCarthy said he saw the German #17 kick one of the Argies in his nuts real hard........why? More to the point, was it seen on camera? :lol:
Prediction? 2-1 to England in normal time, Portugal to score first.
I also think that France will turn-over Brazil tomorrow. Don't know why I think that, just a gut feeling.....
The Basket
01-07-06, 11:29 AM
Yeah - Mick McCarthy said he saw the German #17 kick one of the Argies in his nuts real hard........why? More to the point, was it seen on camera? :lol:
How did I miss that!
Agree about Argentina...although they were up against a good side and so cannot turn on the style. The Argie Subs were very poor and owed to their defeat. Take of Riquelme and not put on Messi...stupidity that makes Sven look like Hannibal.
The Germans look good though and getting a Momentum going...really world cup winning side.
Ukraine were just poo and deserved their beating. A bit unlucky with some of the shots though.
England...hmmm...they have to play 100% better and I can't see it...too many changes and too many different players. No stability or routine. Portugal win today methinks.
Peter Henry
01-07-06, 11:59 AM
England Vs. Portugal is a very evenly matched game comprising two teams of different styles. Close enough to be won by the team best able to play to their potential,simple as that.
Bollox :evil:
Ronaldo [-X Hope Rooney ****s him one in pre-season training.
Just my view.
Don't get me wrong I am not an expert on the game of football but I think England's chances to win the world cup have just reduced drastically :?
Bye Sven, now maybe someone who has a clue can do something constructive.
Bye Sven, now maybe someone who has a clue can do something constructive.
Mr McClaren? Yeah, right................... :?
Mr McClaren? Yeah, right
Sven2 :lol:
Supervox
01-07-06, 06:16 PM
Bollox :evil:
Ronaldo [-X Hope Rooney ****s him one in pre-season training.
Just my view.
I'd like to know forwhich offence Rooney was sent off.
Was it for the step on the b*ll*cks or for the push once play had stopped ?
Personally, I think it was the latter as the ref didn't appear to be reaching for his pocket at the point he blew the whistle. If this is the case then Rooney deserved it - if not then it was a little harsh as there did not look to be any malice or intention behind it. But, once again Rooney showed his lack of brainpower - he should have gone down between the 2 Portugese players instead of trying to prove what a hero is was by trying to beat them both.
I have to say that I thought that England played much better with 10 men than I've seen them play throughout the rest of the tournament.
Owen Hargreaves played better than I've ever seen him play before - the guy just DID NOT STOP for the whole 120 mins.
The refereeing was very poor (yet again) - not necessarily biased against England but just in general - he books John Terry for a foul that clearly wasn't, & waves play on when Gary Neville chops Ronaldo's legs away :shock:
The penalties :-
Lampard - just as I expected - it just hasn't been his tournament.
Hargreaves - NOT what I expected - but very well taken !!
Gerrard & Carragher - Well, if I had to name 2 players in the England squad that would be dead cert to score from the spot, their's would have been the first 2 names out of my mouth - but they were both nothing short of shocking !!
Bye bye Sven - I'd like to say that it's been great & so have you - but I can't on either count so I'll just say F*** O** to Real Madrid (or could they just having second thoughts now ?)
Sid Squid
01-07-06, 06:19 PM
Ronaldo [-X Hope Rooney ****s him one in pre-season training.
You're quite right, rarely have I seen such a deliberate and cynical attempt to have a player sent off, shameful, just shameful. C. Ronaldo deserves all the criticism he'll get and more besides.
And it's to the eternal shame of that ref that he allowed himself to be told by a player the decision he should make.
Disgusting.
You're quite right, rarely have I seen such a deliberate and cynical attempt to have a player sent off, shameful, just shameful.
Did you see the "head pushing" with Rooney before the start?
Sir Alex would do well to sell him ASAP - I'm ashamed that he plays for my club. Not fit to wear the shirt worn so honourably George Best, Steve Coppell, Bryan Robson, Eric Cantona & Becks.
So then, does that mean a few more will be turning up for AR06 now then :?: :lol:
So then, does that mean a few more will be turning up for AR06 now then :?: :lol:
How mercenary :lol:
The Basket
01-07-06, 06:42 PM
Ah well.
England did try very hard and gave it to the end. Poor penalties though.
Gutted...but England were a poor side throughout and just didn't improve enough today.
My my, it's surprisingly quiet in here tonight. :lol:
Imagine the feelings in England if Scolari had taken the job! :P And I can't see Senor Ronaldo having an easy first match next season. Mind you it would be refreshing to see fans not do what you most expect come the time.
The Basket
01-07-06, 06:49 PM
Last game of Sven the man...Thank God...and look who is replacing him...Oh My God!
Big Phil Scolari? Can't be worse than the last geezer...and he prob won't bang secretaries and Ulrika.
Good riddence.
Peter Henry
01-07-06, 08:11 PM
He,he so the poste mortum.
The incident? Well in fairness I thought this was the referee's only real mistake in the game, we can always argue with some decisions but he did not miss that much.
The error for me was for allowing the tussle between Carvalho and Rooney to go on for so long. The defender who was coming in from the back in 90% of cases would have been penalised and rightly so. The Ref did not act and young Wayne lost his cool. It is a true reflection on the overall strength of English football when so much hope was placed on such young shoulders.
Lampard? Thoroughly shocking. Four passes to the opposition in the first 10 minutes and a free kick conceded which almost led to a goal. Ok so he got one shot on target? But what about that f+cking miss from 3 yards out which made him look as if he was having an epileptic fit he was so unco-ordinated? To have him as a penalty taker was a big mistake, but I do not blame him for that.
Owen Hargreaves? Incredible performance.
Crouchie led the line like a man posessed, I did not know he had so many tricks and flicks in his armoury.
Ashley Cole...Fine,fine display.
Gary Neville was fantastic, the confidance his presence gives to his fellow defenders is immense.
Beckham was obviously carrying that injury way before he was substitued and so can't be overly criticised as the hope was he would run it off.
Young Lennon did great after being pushed in to service during a difficult period.
Christiano Ronaldo? And none of you wish he was English? He was representing his country and that means a whole lot to him, the tears when after being nobbled in the last game made him think he would not play any more in the tournament showed that. That nonsense over trying to persuade Ref's to punish players is as part of the game as diving is.
So come on let's get real, we lost due to some very poor penalty taking and an inspired goalkeeping display by Ricardo. To not only guess right so many times...but to make the saves also is pretty special no matter how poor some of the kicks were.
Not disgraced at all, FIFA rank us at 10th and we went out in the last 8 so that is pretty accurate.
Sven? Come on he had his main success in the Serie A, not a place were you usually see teams playing football to the beat of the samba so why expect him to turn England in to Brazil 2? He brought a lot of discipline to the England side and if we could just add a pinch of reliable individual flair to that we will be ok.
Roll on Euro 2008! :P
I also think that France will turn-over Brazil tomorrow. Don't know why I think that, just a gut feeling.....
Got that bit right at least :D
France played great, and what a display from Zidane :notworthy:
Peter Henry
01-07-06, 09:06 PM
Zizou made an absolute farce of the voting that saw Ronaldinho voted best player in the world and Lampard second! A truly inspired performance by a rare talent.
After the stick they got early on,who would bet against Les Blues now? :wink:
After the stick they got early on,who would bet against Les Blues now? :wink:
Not me.
Of the teams left, they played the best this weekend. Must be favourites now, methinks.
The Basket
01-07-06, 09:38 PM
The French were brilliant and good job England are not playing them!
Every cloud has a silver lining.
My cash is still on the Jerries though...
northwind
01-07-06, 11:40 PM
On the plus side for future world cups, there'll never be any baby Ricardo Carvalho's now ;)
Rooney's proved himself to be an **** yet again. Was it deliberate, that stamp? I think it might have been, really not sure. One of the replay angles made it look deliberate, he certainly made no attempt at all not to put his weight on after he put his foot down. But when the ref's standing right beside you, and you've just been involved in a bit of heavy play that's left someone with no testicles, you act nice, you don't start pushing players around- least of all right in front of the ref. Pathetic stuff.
Don't think the ref was "told what to do", he'd already stopped play before Ronaldo got involved, and no more than a couple of words were exchanged. In fact, I'd say the ref had a fantastic game- many others would have had Crouch in the book for that accidental elbow to the guy's eye. But the ref obviously realised that with the way Crouch runs it's a miracle he can get on the pitch without breaking someone's jaw. He's a human flail.
UlsterSV
02-07-06, 01:17 AM
Portugal were crap, England were worse. Rooney IMO was sent off for the push on Ronaldo. Had I been the ref I'd have sent Ronaldo off for trying to get Rooney booked. Hope he gets a good dig in the bake from his Man U 'teamates'. The most disappointing aspect of this WC for me has been the total lack of integrity, dignity, shame and honour amongst the players. Products of modern society, I fear. Anyway, I digress. Brazil vs France was a great match. The French deserved to go through and all credit to them. Especially Mr Zidane. Germany vs France in the final.
Sorry to see England to go out, especially in that manner. Such talent in that team, and it was wasted by the silent Swede.
northwind
02-07-06, 02:03 AM
Tell you something, if you stood on my mate's nads I wouldn't stop at trying to get you booked :)
Jelster
02-07-06, 08:05 AM
I also think Rooney was sent off for the push, but can you blame him. Life in the premiership is going to be hard on Mr Ronaldo next season. Every time he gets kicked it wil be cheered.
Lampard, what a pathetic performance all tournament. Why oh why did Sven take young Wallcott ? He could have still come along for the experience, but to take a striker and then never use him (when we were short on them anyway) is just plain stupid.
Penalties...... I hate penalties me...........
Last night I think I found out what Sven lacks.... He doesn't put any confidence into the side, that's why we have great club players who can't do it at National level. They have no confidence in themselves. Let's hop Maca can turn that around....
I said France before it started, so I'm sticking with that one.
Good sumarry too Pete.
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Peter Henry
02-07-06, 08:52 AM
In the early hours I watched extended highlights of the England game with my son. He knew we were out but had not seen the game. His comment after watching it,(and on reflection I have to agree) was that England deserved to win the game. They were the team asking more questions and going for the goal in earnest. Lady luck did not favour us at all.
Northwind is correct about the Rooney incident and oh such short memories we have?
Remember just a few days ago Ronaldo himself was the victim of an assault which was thinly disgiuised as a tackle? Is it not natural for him to react in such a way seeing a similar action taken against one of his most revered colleagues?
Depending upon who wins the Real Madrid presidency election, there is a good chance Christiano is on his way to pastures greener anyway. :wink:
UlsterSV
02-07-06, 09:36 AM
Last night I think I found out what Sven lacks.... He doesn't put any confidence into the side, that's why we have great club players who can't do it at National level. They have no confidence in themselves. Let's hop Maca can turn that around....
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Yeah I agree. Watching Sven at the end of the 90 minutes I couldn't help but wonder whether he had any passion in him whatsoever. He was aimlessly wandering round, gingerly tapping a few players on the arm. What was that all about? Where was the huddle? Where was the rousing speech to lead his boys to victory? "C'mon lads, half an hour with ten men and they still couldn't beat us. Let's win this f*ckin thing!!" And then again waiting for the shootout. No rousing words of encouragement that I could see. He's meant to lead and instill spirit and confidence in the team. It aint just a matter of choosing between 4-5-1 or 4-4-2. At least big Phil is animated. He looks like he cares.
Filipe M.
02-07-06, 04:14 PM
8-[ :-dd 8-[ :-dd 8-[
:-# :-# :-#
What an awful game, I have to agree with pretty much all the points made by Jelster apart from the France bit.
Lampard awful all during the tournament, missed so many shots and could of easily put England through, even missed the penalty.
I thought other players of mention were Rio in that game and Gerrard and Terry who worked their socks off. But ultimately the game plan by Sven I felt was flawed, he didn't seem to want to win it.
Roll on our new coach and new captain
Mm not often me and Falc agree about football but this time i agree.
cannot believe he played lampard and as for taking cole of big mistake - Rooney should've known better but he's still a kid not an excuse, Theo Walcott was there for the holiday then!!
get Maclaren on board english Manager of the English team and either Terry or Gerrard for Captain
and Peter said - roll on euro 2008
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Crow all you like mate* - we would have done if we'd managed to get the ball in the net during normal play :lol:
*you're not going to win the next game anyway :wink:
either Terry or Gerrard for Captain
Terry gets my vote.......leave Gerrard free to concentrate of winning the game for us :thumbsup:
The Basket
02-07-06, 05:58 PM
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Don't be shy Felipe and give it a rip...no harm done :wink:
Quiff Wichard
02-07-06, 06:01 PM
gotta be JT for captain
NEVER understood why Becks was captain anyway.. !
its gotta be a chatty chappy who can see the game and the play unfolding..
JT- the next BM
Peter Henry
02-07-06, 07:42 PM
The only truly inspirational character in the present England squad is by far Steven Gerrard. John Terry does not even come close. Gerrard does not do too badly for Liverpool when carrying the extra responsibility does he?
Have any of you seen the Rooney incident from the camera that gives the referee's view? If you have I am sure you can agree that it did not take any persuaion from Ronaldo for him to take action. He was so close to it his knees even buckle in sympathetic gesture! :P
Jelster
02-07-06, 09:37 PM
But the point is Peter, it's got FA to do with Ronaldo, and he obviously said something because you could see the look on Rooneys face. The gobby little git out to have his mouth sewn up from the outside with a darning needle and fishing line.
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carelesschucca
02-07-06, 10:22 PM
Are trying to tell me that England players get involved when its nothing to do with them, gobby he may be, but he didn't castrate someone loosing the nut!!! Rooneys a great player but he's also a loose cannon, still a wain and needs to grow up...
Both teams were poor in a v-carp match...
At least all us Scots can now relax and enjoy the next four games of the world cup... :wink:
wonder how the sales of Believe mars bars will go down now!!!
Peter Henry
02-07-06, 10:25 PM
Quiff wrote:
JT- the next BM
If you are referring to the snail like but mercurial Bobby then you are way off mark mate.If all the job is about is chest thumping then yess Terry is your man. Someone that can inspire is Gerrard.
Jelster...So Ronaldo should just stand and watch what Rooney did and not pass comment? Do you not think part of him pasing a comment was to do with the fact he is actually a pal of Rooney's? Would you not tell a friend if you thought he was out of order? I certainly would and HAVE done so particularly when playing rugby.
Gotta agree with Jabba leave Stevie G to play the game let terry lead em
Gotta agree with Jabba
:shock: Twice in a month!! :shock:
:lol:
Gotta agree with Jabba
:shock: Twice in a month!! :shock:
:lol:
I kow shocking isn't it are you worried? Normal service will resume once the football season starts :lol:
Peter Henry
03-07-06, 09:23 AM
Theo Walcott named as new England captain! :shock:
Filipe M.
03-07-06, 09:31 AM
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Crow all you like mate* - we would have done if we'd managed to get the ball in the net during normal play :lol:
*you're not going to win the next game anyway :wink:
No I won't, I might get shot... :? :roll:
And about the next game... unfortunately I'm inclined to agree with you. I'd much rather play Brazil than France, it's a completely different kind of game. I haven't yet seen a decent performance from Portugal (I'm serious, I'll be the first to say we got as lucky as can be against England during playtime) and was hoping for one against Brazil, instead of a purely destructive game. :roll:
Let's wait and see, but I'm not keeping my hopes high.
Peter Henry
03-07-06, 09:35 AM
Felipe...Come on now! France are the best team left in it,but you get your star midfield players back for the semi! :wink: 8)
Filipe M.
03-07-06, 09:37 AM
Felipe...Come on now! France are the best team left in it,but you get your star midfield players back for the semi! :wink: 8)
Sure, but they still have Thierry "Ops-he-breathed-in-my-ear-I-better-fall-and-ask-for-a-red-card" Henry... :? And we won't have Petit to deal with him the Rooney way... :lol:
germany will win the tournament.
who we going to put in Terry's place for wednesday's semi? campbell (who looked dodgy against sweden) or carragher?
and seeing as we've only one striker left it'll have to be crouch up front on his own - unless we get rooney's red card over turned in which case i'd play 4-4-2.
Filipe M.
03-07-06, 10:17 AM
who we going to put in Terry's place for wednesday's semi? campbell (who looked dodgy against sweden) or carragher?
and seeing as we've only one striker left it'll have to be crouch up front on his own - unless we get rooney's red card over turned in which case i'd play 4-4-2.
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Gotta agree with Jabba
:shock: Twice in a month!! :shock:
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I kow shocking isn't it are you worried?
Just checking to make sure I'm awake................... :P
Normal service will resume once the football season starts :lol:
Aye - no doubt it will :lol:
who we going to put in Terry's place for wednesday's semi? campbell (who looked dodgy against sweden) or carragher?
and seeing as we've only one striker left it'll have to be crouch up front on his own - unless we get rooney's red card over turned in which case i'd play 4-4-2.
Keithd, mate................
I know it's hard to accept but, for own good, you've got to face up to the fact that England are out of the tournament :cry:
so when we went out on pens why didn't we scrap the portugese on the field, just like the sporting argentinians did?
so when we went out on pens why didn't we scrap the portugese on the field, just like the sporting argentinians did?
We english don't seem to do scrapping - stiff upper lip and all that
so when we went out on pens why didn't we scrap the portugese on the field, just like the sporting argentinians did?
We english don't seem to do scrapping - stiff upper lip and all that
leave it to the fans i guess....
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