New C & S - Rivetting Question...

Hi,

I fitted new C & S today - the chain snapped last weekend, and got recovered home. Bought the parts from B & C Express as well as a chain rivetter (Whale), and had a go today. Following both the SV Workshop manual and the Haynes Techical Bike Book I managed ok. The only question I have is the rivets. Using to tool I managed to mushroom the heads ok, but as the rivets have thinned out around the edges, they have cracked. The Haynes book says cracked rivets should be replaced, but as it is so thin around the edge, and as there seems to be a good purchase by the rest of the rivet, I was wondering what you thought...have put some pics below:

Should I ride the bike (carefully) to my bike shop (20 miles) and ask them to replace the rivets / link? Or am I worrying about nowt?





and here is the end of the rivet tool, which makes contact with the rivet - the 'V' shape causes the rivet to thin out towards the edge - maybe Ive over-hit it??



Ta peeps,

BB

[northwind]

I don't know- but do you have any pics of the Westy?

Originally Posted by northwind

I don't know- but do you have any pics of the Westy?

Indeed - pre resto:



Not finished yet - hopefully bringing it down in a few weeks to finish it off - its been painted in one colour, VW sea blue, and lots of chrome to go on, plus a 2 ltr T4 engine pushing out 165bhp...interesting on the std drum brakes and no servo!

De-railed a bit, but could do with some advice on the chain front - anyone? Not sure if I'm risking my life (again) if I go out on it tomorrow?

Ta!

BB.

[northwind]

That's lovely My inexpert opinion is that the chain's probably fine- if you hammer any metal thin, it'll crack. The factory ones don't actually go that thin for exactly that reason. I'm assuming that the chain's not pinched though, and tbh I suspect it might be a littl, since the metal there's so thin it'd probably have bent in a bit. This is one of the few jobs I don't do myself, I just fire on a split link until I can get a pro to do it.

. However, Sid Squid will no doubt be along in a minute, he's both a knowledgable chap and total bus geek, so I'm sure he'll be delighted

Originally Posted by northwind

That's lovely My inexpert opinion is that the chain's probably fine- if you hammer any metal thin, it'll crack. The factory ones don't actually go that thin for exactly that reason. I'm assuming that the chain's not pinched though, and tbh I suspect it might be a littl, since the metal there's so thin it'd probably have bent in a bit. This is one of the few jobs I don't do myself, I just fire on a split link until I can get a pro to do it.

. However, Sid Squid will no doubt be along in a minute, he's both a knowledgable chap and total bus geek, so I'm sure he'll be delighted

thanks for the advice. I made sure that the links weren't tight between every few hits - and the rivetted link seems to have the same amount of resistance as the others. The gaps between the side plates and the links (where the o rings are) seems the same by eye too..

Ideally I would have got a master link then ridden to my bike shop - though B & C said they dont supply them with chains anymore (apart from the smaller stuff), so I was stuck with rivetting it myself...

Ta,

BB

[squirrel_hunter]

I'm no expert but...

I have only riveted one chain (my current one) with the help of a friend who's done loads. So I took a look at mine for comparison. The only real difference I can see is my rivets have a more circular appearance to them with a good circle visible in the center of them.

Now apologies if this is the teaching of egg sucking but did you rotate the impact bit of the riveter after each hit? This is what I was taught so thats really a question to all on technique. After each hit I gave it a small rotation say 45 degrees. Is this correct or whats the best technique to riveting? (Sorry for the minor derail BB).

Originally Posted by squirrel_hunter

I'm no expert but...

I have only riveted one chain (my current one) with the help of a friend who's done loads. So I took a look at mine for comparison. The only real difference I can see is my rivets have a more circular appearance to them with a good circle visible in the center of them.

Now apologies if this is the teaching of egg sucking but did you rotate the impact bit of the riveter after each hit? This is what I was taught so thats really a question to all on technique. After each hit I gave it a small rotation say 45 degrees. Is this correct or whats the best technique to riveting? (Sorry for the minor derail BB).

Hiya mate - that bike of yours starting ok now?

Yeay - the pics in Haynes showed a different type of rivet - more like yours, with a recessed circle in the centre of the rivet - it must be down to the shape of the tool used.

Yeah - I made sure that I rotated the impact - well, I didnt need to cos after every time you hit it, the tool jumps up and round, so its not hitting the same place twice.

No probs for the de-rail, this is all new to me...

S*d it - its sunny - I'm of out to play!
BB.

[squirrel_hunter]

Originally Posted by Biker_Billy

Hiya mate - that bike of yours starting ok now?

Oddly it was fine until I went out yesterday, and rolled the bike forward to find the chain rivet

Originally Posted by Biker_Billy

Yeay - the pics in Haynes showed a different type of rivet - more like yours, with a recessed circle in the centre of the rivet - it must be down to the shape of the tool used.

Possible, but I think it was a 'V' shape as well. It was a borrowed tool so I can't check.

[Spanner Man]

Morning all.
Definitely not fine, PM sent as requested.

Cheers.